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Break in at Carolina Reptile Exchange (Bruce Eisenmanns store)

belly patterns

I wish I knew exactly when it was that I talked to "harry" about belly patterns. He had never heard of it before. I will bet every het pied that went out after I talked to him had it. Mine did not. My guess would be anybody who bought from him before about July will not have the marks, people who bought after will have the mark. Anyone else have a receipt signed by a Gail or had harry talk about her? Just wondering. Craig Kade
 
Who is Gail?

Did someone say they had something that had a signature from Harry? Can you scan it and put it up here or on Yahoo?
 
I have been reading bits and pieces of this and i just thought about it.
When a friend and I went to CRE to trade for some 100% het pieds. I got him to write out a hand written reciept he signed it as Harry. I have a witness that was there with me. He also got a receipt.

CRE is the nastiest place i have ever been in. In one room was a pile of feces, feeder mice, snake skins and such. I looked at some of there snakes. The albino labyrinth i remember the most. I was looking down at it and could see mites crawling all over it. One retic cage i believe had a feeder rat that had been in there awhile it was so bloated it was about to burst.

What i want to know is how do i go about collecting my money for these snakes. Who do i contact to get a fraud case or if someone it watching the thread that can help contact me.

From HCE i have gotten
0.1 100% het albino ball python
1.1 100% het pied ball pythons

I figure the value on these snakes would be 3900 if they were really hets. I have also spent money on food,water and electric.
Not to mention the time i have spent caring for them.
So it is hard to put an estimate on the amount i should get.

Anyone who has dealt with Digital Reptiles, HCE,Carolina Reptile Exchange or anyother name Bruce has used needs to get reimbursed for there loss.
 
I am not a lawyer, but I am not so sure about being able to coolect for food, electricity, etc.

I would make sure you have any and all info, as precise as possible on here and post it.
Just be willing to be in on any suit that may be filed.
 
I still have the receipt from the 0.1 het albino and 1.1 het pieds. The pieds came with a belly scan the 2 Harry signatures do not match.

I will be in on any lawsuit that anyone has. I feel his mother or Bruces girlgriend was in on the act as well. When i was calling about the het albino a woman answered and said Harry was out at some animal show.

Has it been confirmed that Harry is dead?
 
CORRECTION...

The belly scans had Harry's name on it not the receipt.

The female het pied died so Harry sent a replacement. The paper had Harry's name(signature) on it but it did not match the belly scans signature .
 
only confirmation I have is the obituary that I posted and posted the link to.
I cannot imagine why someone would spend money to have a newspaper to print up the obituary AND why someone would fake their own family memebers death.

I would be willing to bet there is not a SOAL in the world that has met a 80something year old names Harry at any shows at a CRE booth.

Why has there only been reports of people have conversations with a "Harry" by phone or email. For someone who is at a show, nobody ever seems to see him.
 
if he were NOT dead and the above actions took place (obituary etc.) I would think there are other LARGE issues going on as well.
 
I have never seen Harry either. The first dealing i had with Harry was by phone. Went to Sc to pick up an albino burm. Met Bruce not Harry.

The second time i went to SC met Bruce not Harry.

There is no doubt that i or anyone else that has bought hets from HCE, CRE, Digital Reptiles have been screwed. And we have a fraud case. Just need to figure out how to go about filing a lawsuit.
 
Ask the other locals that frequent (or used to) the shop if they have seen or met Harry after May 28, 1999.

Here I will do it for you.

*****ALL YOU LOCALS THAT HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN TO CRE, HAVE YOU EVER MET HARRY C. EISENMANN DURING ANY OF YOUR TRIPS TO CRE AFTER MAY 28, 1999? THIS WOULD BE A MAN WHO SAY HE IS BRUCE'S DAD AND WOULD BE 84 RIGHT NOW*****
 
Should i call Bruce. I have tought about trying to set this straight. Get some kind of reinbursement. Really i am confused and would like some advice.


He had several snakes that i would be willing to get, they need to be rescued. He had a couple of large albino burms and some tiger retics as well as a silver retic. Also some large green burms. I would definatly have to keep them seperate from my collection for at least 6 months. Someone needs to rescue those snakes. They are in bad conditions. They have good body weights and look to be in good health. Except the filty cages and mites. Who could be sent there to inspect the living conditions. That has the power to take the animals because of the conditions they are being kept in.
 
There have been numbers in a couple of posts on this thread with federal and state wildlife organizations.

All it would take is one or two calls from people who have SEEN this in preson and can explain the filth they live in. They will show up I promise.

Noah JUST went home because he does not exist. Read the posts by people who have been there daily and NEVER met such a person.

Bu!!$h!t all over the place with this guy, Bruce.
 
Here is a link with many names, numbers, and EMAIL ADDY's of people that work in the state of South Carolina in the Fish and Wildlife world.

I am sure any one of these can help you.

http://www.dnr.state.sc.us/etc/phonediv.html

below is the link to animal cruelty laws in South Carolina. Just to use as a reference if needed.

http://www.law.utexas.edu/dawson/cruelty/sc_cruel.htm

Put the two together and DO NOT GIVE UP and you can make a difference. Maybe it is the wrong attitude to have, but hell, I am in Arizona. I cannot prove anything.
 
It would be entirely impossible for anyone to have met Harry at CRE before 1999 also :)
CRE has not even been around a year I don't believe.
Prior to CRE, Bruce was working at a pet store in Pineville, claiming to be the owner, yet NOT the owner of that stre.
THAT store was a Pet Pros, then an attemt at Pet Exchange before Bruce was fired after the neglect convictions were discovered.

Thomas..
When a friend and I went to CRE to trade for some 100% het pieds. I got him to write out a hand written reciept he signed it as Harry. I have a witness that was there with me. He also got a receipt.
Click to expand...

WHO signed the receipt?
Bruce Eisenman or another person?
Do you have the means to scan all the receipts? Your friends included?

I feel his mother or Bruces girlgriend was in on the act as well. When i was calling about the het albino a woman answered and said Harry was out at some animal show.
Click to expand...

Most likely an innocent party as Bruce did get other employees to help him at his house at various times and was most likely told what to say on the phone, or was told previously that 'Dad' is at a show.

Bruce liked to jerk his fellow associates
around like that.
As for girlfriend.. I don't recall one at any time.. then again.. who knows..


As for Noah.. I have never met him, noone I know at work that has ever been there ( one goes regularly) has ever heard of a Noah and I actually never heard of a Noah until very recently.

I will have to do some searches in the am on his 'tribe' etc, to see if they exist or even have a noah wannabe.
Most likely not though.. :)
 
Bruce told us his daddy (Harry) had made the belly scans late that night. And they were already made up for us when we got to the store.

Bruce stated he got woke up early in the morning because his daddy needed to get the het pieds out of his closet where Bruce said they were kept. He said that is when his daddy made the belly scans.

I will try to figure out where i can get this stuff scanned. My buddy sold his pied hets.
 
Again I used to frequent the shop until the robbery occured and I have even been to Bruces house. Well actually he lives with his mother it's her house and Harry is deceased. Again there is no Noah. He answers the phone for both Noah and Bruce and John.
 
Interesting, he plays "John" as well now?
Does this guy ever stop?

Has he ever spoke about his father being dead?

I would be very interested in seeing those signatures and I am sure some other people up to and including the authorities would as well.
 
I will try and scan my copies of the E-mails and bellie copies. Thanks DAVID
 
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