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Break in at Carolina Reptile Exchange (Bruce Eisenmanns store)

Kerry,

I cut and pasted your quotations so that they could be seen side by side, nothing more. I took nothing out of context, and I assure you, I read every word of each one of your posts.

You said:

A) I held those piebald animals the night they were stolen

and

B) I have never seen a piebald "in person"

I'm sorry Kerry, but it is not at all possible for both of those two statements to be true. Either you held those animals the night they were stolen and "A" is true (in which case "B" absolutely must be false), OR you have never seen a piebald snake in the flesh and "B" is true (in which case "A" is false), OR you HAVE seen piebald snakes before BUT you did NOT hold those particular ones the night they were stolen (in which case BOTH statements are false).

All I am asking you to clarify for us is which of the statements you made is false (or if both of them are), and why it is that you made it. I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation ... I'm just waiting to hear it, that's all.
 
It was partly directed to you. You posted the thread from herptrader, and it just said everything I've posted already, it clears nothing that wasn't already cleared. If you, and everyone else would read all post instead of bits and pieces. you might get it. Like I said it proves nothing but that I'm a nice guy, I never said I sale him snakes, I said animals specificly. The day I was there and the snakes got stolen that night. I sold some geckos. The day I was there while toms snake was being packed, It was the day after the robbery, so I went to talk to police. You all will never find anything incrimanating against me, it isn't there!
 
ok mr hillbilly, by the way real hillbillies are from WV. I said first. SOmeone at bruces store mentioned a piebald. I had never seen one that I could feel and touch! SO they preceded to let me hold it. hence now I've seen one in real life It is all in the post you must have missed it
 
Kerry,
I did read the whole thread. I never said it stated anything, I just posted it. Thought it would be good to hear others thoughts (not just you are thought of in this thread Kerry, sorry) and put it here since they are BOTH about the SAME thing.
Yes, you said you sold him animals, but if I am not mistaken (I can go find it), you also said that all you do is produce Hondurans. Would that not be safe for me to say that you sell him snakes? I very well could be wrong, if I am wrong I apologize. Just clearing up where I got the info when I said 'snake'.
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I didn't think that you posted it just for me,
You did incinuate that I am a liar! And your last post is full of sarcastic rhedorict also.
 
I can't really say about his shipping techniques, but I buy things off of him once in a while.
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I helped bag them. The snakes seemed calm. He free handled them about 3 feet away from me.
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I don't have a relationship with the man that goes beyond me selling some animals to him every once in a while.
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Kerry...sorry man, I'm really not trying to be an @$$ but am I missing something here?? I'm being serious...Are the above ALL your quotes??? You can't comment on shipping but you helped him bag them??? You don't know him except for you selling HIM animals but you buy things off of him every once in awhile??? I'm really just double checking myself...am I following this correctly???
 
Kerry,

On page 12, you wrote, "The reason that I held the snakes was because someone mentioned a piebald, I never seen one close up, so I asked if I could hold one. I was allowed."

That explains how it is that you came to hold the animals in question. I did originally miss it, but that was not the reason for my confusion concerning your statements. You see, on page 14, you wrote, "I hope the police do find out who did it, and just because I never seen a piepald in person don't mean I've never heard of one."

You see, the phrase "just because I never seen a piebald" is written with incorrect grammar. Now, normally, I don't correct other peoples' misspellings or grammatical errors, because I find them in my own writings far too often, and it is not my place to be the BOI teacher, anyway. However, in this instance, I have to point it out, because it is the source of my confusion. I thought you were trying to say "just because I have never seen a piebald," which, though grammatically correct, would have been completely contradictory to the statement regarding you having held the animals in question. Hence my questioning.

The reason I made that assumption, is because you also used the phrase "don't mean I've never heard of one." While that is also grammatically incorrect, it is the contraction "I've" (short for "I have") that threw me. It made believe that you meant to say, "just because I have never seen a piebald in person doesn't mean I have never heard of one," when you actually meant to convey something like, "just because I had never seen one before, doesn't mean I had never heard of one." The first implies a continuing condition of never having seen a pied in the flesh, while the second simply means that you never had seen one until you first did.

Mystery solved! Thanks for your input!

Thanks also for clearing up my heritage for me ... the folks will all be thrilled to know that we have been mislabled as hillbillies for the last 160 years!!!!






Does all that sound sufficiently condescending and arrogant for you Kerry? I was certainly trying. After all, now that I know I am not a real hillbilly, I need to be as condescending to you as you were to me, correct?
 
Although I must admit that I used my grammar incorrectly. I am glad that you figured it all out. I didn't mean to confuse you. Maybe I was wrong to backlash on the hillbilly thing. I never knew that the ozarks were considred real mountains
 
I don't have to justify myself to anyone. Whatever I may have said if there are minor discrepencies I do not see why it should really matter. I held a bag while a snake was put in it. I've never seen him ship nothing, nor recieved nothing. How should I know about shipping techniques. I know of his bagging techniques. And why should it matter that I have sold him something, later to add that I have also occasionally made a purchase, one to be exact. These are all examples of quotes that I've made. If this confuses you all so much, quit thinking so hard
 
Venomous shipped via Airborne????

Did I read correctly in a previous post that there were Mangrove snakes shipped through AirBorne express? VENOMOUS Mangroves? It was in the post that qouted Kerry and his conversations with Tom. Is this factual? Tom? Need an answer.
 
He did try original try to ship the Airborne then he shipped FEDEX, The animals did eat and are doing great so Im now out of this conversation Thanks for all the info Fauna Members

Tom McKenna
S&H Exotics
 
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I'll bet that Kerry doesn't have the snakes in question...I even believe that he didn't steal them...This public speaking just wouldn't make sense HOWEVER! I'll bet the farm that he knows where they went and by whom. ...................But, I smell it too!
 
I have soome input. Now you all have something to nail the fat bastard on. You blood thirsty maggots go run and tell fedex, run go. tell the world. I realize the danger in him shipping these snakes fedex. I agree that is illegal. You have your proof, now run, run, tell it!
 
That is fine. you are of course wrong! I can see all of your reasons for thinking this. when the culprit(s) are(is) caught. I'll let ya know!
 
venomous snakes

Bruce is coming up smelling like roses all the time now. What type of person would ship hot stuff through a common carrier? Also, who would allow the hots to get shipped to them knowingly breaking the law? I cannot believe the crap that is going on in the herp industry. People like this are the ones who will get all the PETA and Humane Society idiots after ALL of the law abiding and professional breeders in the industry. I wonder how many other dangerous animals were shipped by Bruce in the past. For each state the animal(s) pass through there is a separate offense. Thank god nothing happened to anyone while delivering the package. And stop having a cow Kerry, you can go away any time you do not like the thread. It seems to me you are a information gatherer. You know so much about this it is amazing. Paul hit a good note with his remark about knowing who and where the snakes are. Kerry, you have dug yourself a hole in this one with so many remarks and quotes that discredit what you say. Each time you post it is like a jeckell and hyde conversation.
 
Sorry I went to enjoy dinner and took a break from this stuff. THis is what Kerry said after I posted on pg.16 (I think it was)

I didn't think that you posted it just for me,
You did incinuate that I am a liar! And your last post is full of sarcastic rhedorict also.
Kerry,
When, where and on what planet did you feel I incinuated you were lying? Secondly, lying about what? Third, 'incinuating' and telling you are two TOTALLY different things. As far as the sarcasm, yes there was sarcasm, yet had a bit of sencarity to it. I did not want you head to swell due to the silly comment you made on the other forum about you stating (and I quote) "start a fued on Fauna". I was simply letting you know that this thread was well on it's way prior to your arrival here at the good 'ol BOI. So actually, now that I think about it, there may not have been any sarcasm. Just seemed like you were over on the other forum making it sound like you:
1. Did it on purpose
2. Did something you did not do.

Why do people think these silly things. People should not assume what others are thinking, only go by what is said....or in this case written.

Out of curiousity, what did you mean when you said you would not lose your house on it? Did the authorities tell you not to talk about this or.........? Please, I would question the heck out of them if they told me that.
That would seem odd, people are convicted by the authorities before they are even caught every day when I watch them on the news. Not wanting to put names up here on the public forum is respectable, I suppose, but for what other purpose would you have come here.........were you not helping out the cause? If so, who do you think did it?

Or is this some silly game called...... (drum roll) I Know Something You Don't Know, with your host, KERRY!
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