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Break in at Carolina Reptile Exchange (Bruce Eisenmanns store)

Tom,

I hear you. Luckily for you those were more than likeley not among the stolen snakes. Did they ever get back to you on the shipping status?
 
Yeah they said they wasn't stolen but the scary part was no tracking number from Airborne then no snakes but they are suppose to ship again for Thursday deliver and god I cross my fingers they do. If I find a good dealre I return to them so they will lose my business if they don't follow through then fear my wrath hehehe
 
Why would someone have to "ship again" if it was something they already sent out via Airborne? Tracking number or not, you said (you were going on what they told you) that they were shipped. hate to sound negative, but sounds like a not so pleasent result coming to this one.

Makes no sense to me?!?!
 
I'm wishing you luck on this one...

Sounds like BS to me though. Ship again??? Sorry, but that just doesn't seem to make much sense. Either way, I hope you get your animals, and they're to your satisfaction. "IF" all of this stuff is true maybe they're just a little slow catching up on orders, due to the chaos right now. Which 'big names' told you he was a good person to deal with??? I've dealt with him twice but I was the seller both times. Quick & painless, zero questions, no haggling over price, just a couple deposits into my paypal account and that was it. I can't say anything about him/them or his/their animals BUT there has been an awful lot of stuff brought to my attention in the last year and a half or so that I wouldn't even consider dropping cash on anything unless I saw it first, and no way would I buy hets...sorry...that's just me!!
 
hey....

I will bring out the guns tonight.
I will have them all loaded.
I will set out mouse traps and hide in the corner.
I have a feeling I will get robbed tonight.....at...uuummm....0430 EST
of course I will only conveniently stay until 0415
Tonight is the night.... I know it.
My salmontine, pastel ball, albino granite burms will be stolen.



Hope you all got my sarcasm.

Also...why would Bruce
Bruce = the guy who only helps but does NOT own.
why would bruce be the one to set the traps?

if I owned the store and animals turned up missing.....yo can bet your bottom dollar I would be there and not some helper.

But then we already Know that Harry Eisenmann of digital Reptiles / HCE is a crook

and I guess now we know that the crookedness runs in the family and Bruce is a prime example.


come on bruce or Noah. I know you all read these threads.
why are you gone all of a sudden.

Another coincidence......Because of harry's "failing health" they were in need of cash and were selling snakes that were "NOT bred by HCE."
How convenient animals turned up missing a week or two after they post ads saying they need cash.




Bruce and Noah..........where are you all of a sudden?
 
I'm not trying to defend anbody. I don't know what has went on in the past. But I held those piebalds the night they were stolen. That report that's written in the paper is screwed up. It came from a 2 bit penny saver type paper from a 2 bit town. In the city on the radio they couldn't even get the name of the town right. So I doubt a guy 6 states away is gonna get any good info. The snakes are real, they were stolen by a employee that was hired there 6 months ago. The employee's never bred <font color=red>[bleep]</font>, and don't know anybody worth a crap in the trade. He will eventually screw up and be caught. I hope I don't catch a bunch of <font color=red>[bleep]</font> because I'm just trying to shed some light on the subject. I don't have a relationship with the man that goes beyond me selling some animals to him every once in a while. So I'm not trying to defend anybody. But Alot of you are just plain wrong, and have drawn your own conclusion from absolutely no facts. I also know that bruce is the old mans kid. There is about 6 sons and 3 generations of people that work with animals in his family. Bruce is no longer associated with HCE. He only helped when his dad was ill. I hope nobody here has a dad get ill, any time soon.
 
Fishier and fishier.

How surprising that a FIRST time poster comes to the defense of these guys. Gee, that's not familiar at all, is it?

Something just ain't right and it seems to be in the eisenmen gene pool.

Wes Pollock
 
Message for Tom McKenna.

Hi Tom. Hope you're happy with the heat packs I sent you. I'm very doubtful about these guys having shipped you once and now they're going to ship again? What is that supposed to mean? How do you ship animals overnight and not have a tracking number? Also if the original animals were indeed shipped the second shipment are supposed to be replacement animals of hopefully the same quality? Will you have a tracking number this time around? I'd insist on one if I were you but even if you do get one who's to say it's not just going to be an empty box? By the way, if I were in the market for ANY corn snake I would give the guy that runs this site first shot at my business as he's certainly earned it. Hope all works out for you.
 
the only thing that smells fishy around here is your ass, buddy I haven't ever posted on this site because I'm admin on another, and unlike alot of you guys I don't brown nose evryone in the business to make my self feel good. I will assure you I'm a real person, jack ass It just like I said now I'm catching all the flack
 
Besides what am I defending him against? I only said that I saw the snakes. Nothing else. I hope S&H gets his nakes. If he doesn't you can make sure that I'll go down there and ask him why! I have already discussed this with S&H. Ask him if I'm a real person. It seems like alot of people around here like to start trouble. The main ones also seem to be right here. I know of one right here that was banned from a site for the same reason! What ever happned to giving peope the benifit of the doubt? You guys are ridiculous.
 
Kerry,

I'm not trying to defend anbody. I don't know what has went on in the past.
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To understand this whole issue you need to dig into the past. Try a search by Digital Reptiles, HCE, Eisenman, and Carolina Reptiles Exchanges.

But I held those piebalds the night they were stolen.
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At this point no one doubts their existence. We even say pictures of them.

That report that's written in the paper is screwed up. It came from a 2 bit penny saver type paper from a 2 bit town.
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Meaning?

The snakes are real, they were stolen by a employee that was hired there 6 months ago. The employee's never bred [bleep], and don't know anybody worth a crap in the trade.
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We know they are real. It was Carolina Reptile Exchange owner who said they hetero for pieds were bred at the store. So you are saying they never bred a thing, that's what our point was. Besides in their ads the state that Bruce Eisenman was helping out in the store, not that he was the owner. Please read previous threads and their own words.


But Alot of you are just plain wrong, and have drawn your own conclusion from absolutely no facts.
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We are just stating what happened as you are. In your words they never bred a thing in the store and we believe you. But thier ads stated otherwise. You (and the article) state Bruce is the owner. Their ads states he was only a hired helper.

I also know that bruce is the old mans kid. There is about 6 sons and 3 generations of people that work with animals in his family. Bruce is no longer associated with HCE.
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We also know that. We also known from Harry himself that he could not guarantee the genetics of the animals his sons were selling. What does that tell you?
 
I meant that the guy who stole the snakes has never bred a thing. I don't need this. YOu can annalize what I said all you want. YOu all are still wrong!
 
I suppose the pleasant demeanor you display here is evident there as well. How nice.

These eisenmens have had several shady dealings with several people in the past. You being a first timer coming to the defence of someone with a history such as they have is not new to this site.

You may or may not be exactly who and what you say you are. They have proven themselves VERY questionable at the very least.

Let's start over.

Welcome to fauna. Are you sure these guys whom you are speaking so highly of actually deserve your backing? Perhaps they are great in person and just shady online? If you do a search on Digital Reptiles. harry and/or bruce you'll see some very interesting facts. Be sure to read them all.

Wes Pollock
 
I simply sated facts. WHy are you guys so gung ho to jump my <font color=red>[bleep]</font>?
 
I meant I simply atated facts. I wanted to clear that up before any body took bits and pieces of what I say, and turns it around
 
Hi Kerry,

Noone means anything personal toward you by what they are saying Kerry.

It just seems a little weird that someone (you) would respond now when theses guys have been unwilling to answer any questions for about the last year or so regarding their collection. Where were you to defend them all last year when questions arose?

The family has a bit of bad history going all the way back to Florida with large cats and now they seem to be doing no better here with reptiles.

The truth is, people here would love to have some information about their animals that could be validated since noone has been able to do that and the family themselves have not been willing to do it. Why would anyone NOT want to provide some info to help make a sale? As I'm sure you know, there is a huge amount of unethical behavior going on with the python morphs these days and it is entirely reasonable to expect validation of bloodlines which these guys don't seem openly willing to do.

I hope that helps you understand some of the responses you received.
 
Well, I don't blame everyone for thinking what they do. It may seem suspicious. I shouldn't have lashed out like I did. I knew I had it coming. It just feels good to be right! I am just a victim of circumstances. I don't keep ball morphs. Unlike all the other people here that don't have them either. I don't care to get into others dealings in them. I don't really know bruce either. I just sell him animals every once in a while. It just so happned that I was there the day it happened. I never said " He's a great guy buy his stuff" I never said anything about het piebald ball pythons. I just said I have seen all of his stuff. If you have any questions. I will tell you what I know about what I know. I don't want sarcastic feed back, or break downs of my words (completely out of context) Thanks for being so nice John
 
Kerry,

My apologies if you felt I was being harsh on you. It was never my intention. The only point I wanted to make is that there is plenty of past evidence written on them right here in the BOI. If you want to know why some of us feel the way we do, check what Harry Eisenmann said in those threads. It goes even way back before they started with the piebalds. Furthermore, and more recently, the ads of Carolina Reptile Exchange stated that Bruce was not the owner, and now we learn from this article that he is. Again my apologies and welcome to the BOI.

Regards.
 
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