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Break in at Carolina Reptile Exchange (Bruce Eisenmanns store)

Correction, the name is "Mikesc". I looked up the name and it says Mike Baker. Anyone in South Carolina know a Mike Baker? He would obviously have or have knowledge of reptiles if he knows of this site.

Just rather odd that a guy form S.C. would join on the 20th of this month, but not all together impossible either.
 
Bruce's Exact QOUTE in regards to this thread was - "They are tearing my a$$ apart on there and I will not post because of it!"


Cut the Cr@p bruce.

The real reason you wont post here is because you are so freakin caught.

1. Someone is selling het pieds as harry and sedning pictures of the pied ball the same ball you now supposedly got stolen.

2. Lo and behold after people were warned NOT to buy from harry. all of a sudden the ball python appears at your store because of harry's failing health.....hint his health is not failing.....he is Just dead since 1999.

3. After the ball python appears at your store......the hets you were selling were all of a sudden NOT produced by harry...they were produced at your store.

Well I am sorry.
Harry the dead guy is selling het pieds.
The het pieds at your store were produced at your store.
That only tells me two things.
1. Your NON adult pied male is breeding year round.
2. You have females that are also breeding at all times of the year.

Up until 6 or 7 2003 harry was selling het pieds.
Actually in end of May 2003 Harry "supposedly" produced a whole clutch of pieds.
Then in November December 2003 Carolina Reptile Exchange were selling het pieds that were produced at the store.

That is one horny NON adult pied male you have there.
 
Does anyone know the contact info for the detective in this case??
Just curious, if he was contacted with this info I think the case may be handled differently. Plus it may help the people that got ripped by having a contact with the local police. Craig Kade
 
I really hate to jump in and add what could be helpful info to what is such an obvious bad guy. But... On page 55 someone posted a pic taken from Bruce's website of a Piebald on a Reptile's Magazine. They also stated something along the lines of their was no way that animal was size enough to breed. Well I was thinking that maybe that python was of size to breed. If you look at the coloration, it does not display the more bright oranges that you would see on the smaller piebalds. Their is some orange, but it is definitely darkening. I only have an Albino male breeding this year and he is a 2002 male at around 900 grams. He is definitely breeding this year and seems to be near that size, maybe bigger. So I took a pic on a Reptile's magazine and couldn't really tell so you guys can decide. Also remember my male is 900 grams, where as I've seen a "Pastel Jungle" male in the Kingsnake forums breeding at 550 grams and a "Mojave" breeding at 650 grams (I think). I heard some people introduce their males at around 700 grams. This is about 20% smaller than my male pictured.
Also, my albino is placed on the February, 2004 issue of Reptiles Magazine which I received sometime in December, while his Piebald is place on February, 2003 Reptiles Magazine with Mark O'Shea on the cover. It is possible that he did actually breed the snake last year and produce hets. I am only going off the photo of the snake on the magazine and maybe giving a little hope to all those that bought mites... errr... uugghh.... I mean 100% het for Piebald Ball Pythons.. :bandhead0
Thanks,
Tom Baker
 

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I just wanted to show a photo of the albino breeding to verify what I stated in the last post, just in case their are any doubters... :cool:
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It was brought to my attention that there is a "Mikesc9" that joined here on 1-20-04 from South Carolina. ANyone know who this person is?
His IP is different from DEAD Harry and Noah.
His ISP is Located in Fort Mill, Same neighborhood as bruce <-- note the non capitalized name = sign of disrespect towards bruce
His ISP is info ave internet services........
But for some reason his e-mail seems to pretend to be a government e-mail. [email protected]

I could be very wrong. If I am.....someone please tell me so.
But I have never seen a county or government entity go as .com


anyway I do not think it is him. He joined 1/20 and his last visit as of this typing is 1/20
 
Yes tom you are right.
I said it in another thread...I guess I should say it in this one.

Someone said they saw the piebalds in person and theyw ere in no way breeding size or adult.

Well the recent pics do tell me otherwise.
They may not be full grown adults. But they can certainly breed.
I had a male trying to breed at 500 something grams. He is gone now and I do not know if he was successful.

Anyway. I do not think his one piebald was breeding year round.
The other one was purchased by Harry later on...(even though he was DEAD).............

Well basically there are WAAAYYYY too many hets from just one and maybe two animals.

There are also WWAAAYYYY to many 66% from just 3-4 clutches.
There were no pictures of ANY piebalds from any of these clutches.

I have e-mailed and corresponded with DEADH Harry himself and he supposedly produced a clutch of piebalds in May 2003. Anyone seen any pictures of that clutch?
Anyone see a single animal from that clutch?

P.S. My correspondence with Harry was through e-mails and posts. I did not use Ms. Cleo. But apperantly I was (without my knowledge) using that John guy who communicates with the DEAD.

I am on vacation.........so I can't post the e-mails. but you guys can do a search for the user name H.C.E. You will see where he has come back from the dead and posted. I believe you will also see him talk about his piebald clutch. If he does not then it is in e-mails at home.
 
"This is my personal stuff," said Eisenmann, adding that the stolen pythons weren't even for sale.

The quote above was from Bruce.

But if anyone remembers the ads from Carolina Reptile exchange........theyw ere saying that the animals belonged to Harry.
 
http://www.wsoctv.com/specialreports/2645817/detail.html
Deadly Snakes For Sale

POSTED: 11:24 AM EST November 18, 2003
UPDATED: 5:52 PM EST November 18, 2003

FORT MILL, S.C. -- Deadly snakes once found only in books or on nature shows are living in pet shops in the Charlotte area.

They're shipped from overseas and most are far deadlier than the ones most are familiar with.

Bruce Eisenmann is the owner of an exotic reptile shop in Fort Mill.

One of the snakes Eisenmann showed Eyewitness News was a black, spitting cobra.

There's no state law in South Carolina, so Eisenmann can sell cobras, vipers and local venomous snakes like water moccasins and rattlesnakes.

Native snakes such as rattlesnakes and moccasins are poisonous, but not as potent as many African snakes.

Greg Maggart runs a store called Herp Aqua in Rock Hill.

Maggart sells pythons, rat snakes, king snakes and some highly venomous snakes.

Maggart said the snakes should not be sold to "just anybody."

Both storeowners sell over the Internet -- which is legal in most states -- and to people they judge capable of handling the snakes.

Neither will sell to anyone under 18 and they interview buyers first.

But sometimes, it's beyond their control.

In January, someone stole a deadly gaboon viper from Herp Aqua.

Fortunately it was recovered, because even a non-fatal bite is crippling.

For now, nowhere does the phrase "buyer beware" apply more.

Except for some minor details, North Carolina's state law is the same as South Carolina's.

However, by county ordinance, poisonous snakes are illegal in Mecklenburg County.

Reptile dealers can import snakes from countries all over the world, as long as the animals aren't protected in those countries.


This is the second newspaper to say Bruce owns the store.
I wonder if he will still pretend to be just helping.
I wonder if they will still pretend that the co-op is not his
 
His IP is different from DEAD Harry and Noah.
His ISP is Located in Fort Mill, Same neighborhood as bruce

It could very well be the laptop in Bruces office at the shop.
Same neighborhood?
Yup!
You could toss a stone from the store and nearly hit the Heritage neighborhood.


As for Bruce being merely a helper.. BS.

My wife and I went to the store after hearing he had opened shop again and Bruce himself stated he was the owner, in front of the wife, the kid and myself.

Ritchie, have you been able to do any business license searches on the store to see just WHOMS name it is in?
( I know... your on vacation :D )
 
I will send 2 pictures of the snakes I took pictures of at BRUCE's table. In my opinion they are and were old enough to breed in 2003. I am not defending him, But I am just showing MY pictures of his snakes. I took the at the columbia SC show on 9/13-14/2003.

These were the 2 Male Pieds he had on his table for display. And this is also the reason I purchased my 2 100% het males that day. I am unsure of the genetics on mine since all this other mess has come up. hope this helps.
 

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Kerry.....

Kerry, what ever happened to you? What do you think about what was said that Bruce DOESNT know you? Funny that you have not responded to that remark. Seems to me if he made that statement to me and he owed me money - I certainly would say something.

Bruce has two computers at his house that he also shares with his mom. He has his laptop. It is HIGHLY possible to have several different internet accounts. With so many different names as harry/bruce/noah I would not put it past him to have aol, msn, and/or others.

Bruce - to your remark that we are tearing your a$$ apart on here. If the shoe fits wear it. You are deserving of that and MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I would love to read about people picketing your store with such signs as: BRUCE the CHEAT! or how about Bruce the LIAR! Bruce the SCAM ARTIST! Bruce the convicted ANIMAL ABUSER! (with pictures of your mug shots from Lee county Florida!) Bruce the THEIF!! You know Bruce you piss off enough people and the right ones you should very well SHUT YOUR DOORS for good! Get out of the trade. The one most important thing you have to keep in mind is WORD OF MOUTH! Word of mouth can and has run many businesses out of business.

Bruce you are probably asking yourself - why is Paul and Beth so very much pissed off at you. Here it is harry/bruce/noah, you dont do friends the way you have done to our friends, LeRoy and Lisa. Now Bruce it is time that you pay the piper for all the scamming cheating, deceitful things that you have done to everyone in the past,

NOW Bruces snakes are going to become even more skinner since he lost his rodent supplier. NO MORE MICE AND RATS LOLLOL What will you do bruce/harry/noah. YOU BIT THE HAND THAT WAS FEEDING THEM.

Hey Sybil(Bruce) why don't you come here and play! Are you toooooo afraid???If I were you I give back the snake that you conned to get. Maybe if you do that it would help you start to look somewhat decent. But You really do not care what people think of you do you. You need to apolozie to the people listed below the way i see it.
1) your mom
2) LeRoy and Lisa
3)Gregg Hubbard
4) your dead father.
 
#5 - the animals, including Janie, the white tiger ( including her rescuers to which I don't think he has paid the fees of boarding and meds to, according to Janies story)

From White Tigers

Eisenmann's Tiger Rescue Foundation no longer exists. Because nobody ever paid Janie's boarding bill, Yates says, the tiger still lives with him.
 
Thanks for the pics snakester!
at least now there will be a positive way to ID these two if/when they surface or are found close to home ;)
 
In case nobody has seen it, I noticed a couple ads put up by CRE/Bruce. One is for an adult Albino Ball he is selling, the other is on the the pythons page with pics of the retics that were taken. Good to see he is getting the info out, I personally would have done this on the day they went missing, but that is just me.

You can take a look at the snakes and the cages they are in on KS.

I was going to post the links, but in respect of Webslave, I chose not to.
 
In case nobody has seen it, I noticed a couple ads put up by CRE/Bruce. One is for an adult Albino Ball he is selling, the other is on the the pythons page with pics of the retics that were taken. Good to see he is getting the info out, I personally would have done this on the day they went missing, but that is just me.

Sorry I would have to politely disagree.

That is just a cover.

I mean isn't it weird that of all the nights they could have been stolen..........the thief pics the one night Bruce sets traps in the store?

Of all the nights Bruce can set traps......he pics the night they were going to be stolen.

I know all about circumstancial evidence and stuff
But this is just WAAAY to big to be just circumstancial.

So he can put all the ads he wants.
I will always let everyone know that BRUCE KNEW WHEN THE SNAKES WOUD BE STOLEN AND HE EVEN SET UP TRAPS THAT SAME NIGHT.................coincidence?............I think NOT !!!
 
I was not being serioius Ritchie when I said, "good to see he is getting the info out". I thought that would be recognized by the next sentence that was "I persoanlly would have done it the same day they went missing".

I am not sure what to make of all this. I always like to think that people are honest, but there are still ALLOT of fishy things happening in this whole thing that Bruce feels is not important enough to discuss here on the BOI.

JUST MY OPINION, but the cages that these snakes are in don't look too good. THe blue bowl in particular looks like it needs a good soaking in bleach and power washing. Again just my opinion.

I wish I could answer the big question in regards to these recent posts of CRE's/Bruce's.............why wait so long?
Let's say the animals were stolen, and I do not know for sure if they were not at this point, but what would be the advantage to waiting nearly 2 weeks to post this stuff? The snakes, again if stole, could have gone through SO MANY hands by now. The pictures are not good enough to truly identify the snakes even if they were right in front of you.
 
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