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i would assume a female should only be breed once a year.
but what about a male? how many females could he healthfully impregnate in one year? :shrug01:

im no where near the time of breeding but i was just curious
so i dont get too many females for my male currently at 3 snakes ( 2 females 1 male )
but was considering 1 more.
 
I only do one male to one female and always have a back up male. Most of the time a male is pretty shot after the first female unless it is a quickie then possible he would do 2. Most people I have dealt with had very poor results with one male two females.
 
I agree. If I was you and was going to add another animal, I'd get another male. Males can get stressed out if you try them on more than one female.

Chris
 
JCCS said:
Males can get stressed out if you try them on more than one female.
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So glad I'm not a snake.... ;-)

Out of curiosity, does this vary by species? It's pretty common with Brazilian Rainbows, for example, to set up 1.2 trios, especially with larger, older males, and it seems to work fine.
 
It varies greatly by species. I don't know much about rainbows honestly, but BP keepers regularly breed males to 4 and 5 females per season. BCI just like to take their time and do it right :).
 
Snakesitter said:
So glad I'm not a snake.... ;-)

Out of curiosity, does this vary by species? It's pretty common with Brazilian Rainbows, for example, to set up 1.2 trios, especially with larger, older males, and it seems to work fine.
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It does vary by species and still would recommend having another male. Putting all your eggs in one basket (one male) is a recipe for possible failure.

With BRB's I have successfully bred 4 females with one male inh one season. But next year - nothing. For a small colony I would go with 1.1 ratio until you had 2.2 total, then add more females. (Assuming you'd not be breeding every female every year)
 
I agree with the popular recommendation here. I have tried the 1.2 trio breeding before and I ended up wearing the male out and neither female took.
 
Well that kinda derails my theory of having your male be your power house.
If both male and female can only breed once a year Imo it wouldn't make a difference if u have a male power house or a female power house.

By power house I mean multiple genes.
Like a sunglow vs a motley sunglow.

What's ur opinion..
If I get another male it'll be a moonglow.
So I'd have 2 sunglows female
A sunglow motley male and a moonglow male.
So I'd have 2 male power houses.
 
I've been hearing this term "powerhouse" more lately in reference to boas. It's kind of disconcerting to me as it seems to be pushing boas towards becoming more like the ball python market. It's breaking down a snake purely by what mutations it possesses instead of it's full breeding potential. What difference does it make if the snake has 5 genes if it looks like crap.

That's not saying anything bad about multiple mutation snakes, but I just don't understand only being concerned about what mutations the snake possesses. I know this is an aside from the conversation, but just wanted to vent some frustration with what seems to be more concern about grabbing the dollar than about making truly nice snakes.

Chris
 
The label pretty much suits the last 5-6yrs
Snakes gene's are stacked to the point of fantasy these days
Shouldn't be to long before AKC starts ranking BCI by pedigree's too

One doesn't need a 3 digit IQ to see whats being produced
Saw one the other day that looked like a real nice hypo for $5800
After reading the sellers hyped up bs,the animal was basically left overs from which only 2 in the litter hit the percentages.
His PowerHouse breeding failed and now he expects others to cover his loss. :rolleyes:


JCCS said:
I've been hearing this term "powerhouse" more lately in reference to boas. It's kind of disconcerting to me as it seems to be pushing boas towards becoming more like the ball python market. It's breaking down a snake purely by what mutations it possesses instead of it's full breeding potential. What difference does it make if the snake has 5 genes if it looks like crap.

That's not saying anything bad about multiple mutation snakes, but I just don't understand only being concerned about what mutations the snake possesses. I know this is an aside from the conversation, but just wanted to vent some frustration with what seems to be more concern about grabbing the dollar than about making truly nice snakes.

Chris
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The beauty with breeding good healthy boas is you only need the one "power house"
male to a good female and you can end up with 30-40 healthy babies with a good percentage mix and if you put a "power house" male to a "power house" female the odds even increase. So one good male one good female = plenty of nice babies.
As in the other "bp" you need 4 or 5 females to equal the babies of a good pair of boas.
 
i dont mean for the term power house to come off wrong.
my snakes arent something i look at based on value
all my snakes get the same care whether its my 300$ sunglow or my 1300$ motley lipstick sunglow paradox.

i just more meant in your opinion/experiences.
does it work out better to have a male with more mutations or a female with more mutations.

my previous thought on this was to have a male with more would be better because he could potentially impregnate 2 females each year . where as a female could only be impregnated once a year..
but after hearing that the 1.2 trios dont work out so well im curious.
 
Honestly, for best breeding results, I wouldn't breed females once a year. I give my females a year off between litters for recovery.

Chris
 
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