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Breeding questions, ethics, etc.

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Hello!

I have a beautiful yellow/orange 3 year old male, who I have had since he was just six inches. He is healthy, happy, tame and well adjusted.

I also aquired a female last year, a lovely yellow sandfire. She is absolutely perfect, and very well could make some lovely babies.

However, I am not a breeder. I do not want to do this as a living. How difficult is it to find people who will buy the clutches once they hatch? I have been told by some, that selling clutches to distributors is very easy. I wouldnt make any money, but my babies would have a place to go.

What is everyones opinion on breeding good stock recreationally? My husband and I really would love the whole process, I just want to be realistic before I start putting them together.

Also, could they live together? If i decided it was a good idea to try this out, could they cohabitate? do you only introduce them once?

I have read books on all this, and I have seen many different opinions. Some people keep groups in large enclosures.

just wanted some opinions.

thanks
 
From what I've read, I don't know that I'd personally be comfortable selling hatchlings to a distributor because you don't know what kind of conditions they're going to end up in (i.e. sitting in a petstore with inadequate care for months on end). As far as housing the adults together, it's not generally recommended. Male dragons don't understand "no" when they want to mate and your female can easily be overbred as well as suffer stress and physical injury. You'd be best to house them separately and introduce them only for the actual act of mating. Yes it is possible to house groups of dragons together, but to do so successfully you need a room sized enclosure in order to provide enough space, basking spots, and feeding spots to reduce competition and stress among the animals.
Breeding is a very expensive and time consuming proposition, especially if done properly so I'm glad to see that you're doing pleanty of research ahead of time.
 
I am curious how many babies you can get out of one breeding. I know they retain the sperm for at least the whole season, but how many babies would I be looking at if I let my pair mate??

any ideas?
 
Clutch sizes vary per animal and experience. The first time you usually get smaller and fewer clutches. Let's just give an average of 20. Could be anywhere from 12-40 give or take. Be very careful and be prepared to feed each baby just to be safe 50 crickets or more per day. It is not cheap to feed the insatiable lil monsters. If you don't feed properly, you will get nips. Also watch you color morphs. Make sure you know the lineage and do not cross breed. You mentioned they both have yellow. I would not recommend breeding them together based on this. Birth defects, high mortality, infertile eggs which is a waste of the females calcium reserves are all very common if you do not pay attention to the lineage. Do not keep the male with the female for the entire process. She needs only breed once and for her safety and sanity, separate her after she has mated.
 
is everyone in agreement on this yellow cross thing? I have never heard that sandfire yellows could not be bred to regular yellow/orange morphs.

this is news to me, but I really need more info!

thanks!
 
If you stop and think about where the morph lines come from, you'll see that they pretty much come from the same group of dragons. Just because it was called Sandfire by one group of people, doesn't mean that Jim down the street thinks his are a shade lighter or darker and decided to coin the name Jim's Super Yellow to make a few extra bucks from people who thought this was a new morph. I am not saying that you WILL have a problem when you breed them, just there is a possibility to be aware of. I learned this the hard way and don't want people to run into the same situation if it can be avoided. The goal is to make healthy, strong dragons by diverisfying the lines. This appiles for any color and not just yellow. I made my mistake with Orange morphs. The genes available in the US are clouded enough so any little detail that helps to prevent increased poor genetics should be closely looked after. That is just my opinion and a lil something from my experience.
 
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