Breeding SHT questions

[Kazoo]

Hello all!

Well, my group of leos is getting ever-closer to being breedable, and I had a quick question pertaining to when the time comes..
If my SH male is just a "washed out" tangerine..rather than a ghost, as I had posted an inquiry about a while ago..would he hurt the tangerine coloring potnetial of his offspring?
Here is is again in case you need a reference:

And here is the "female" (STILL not 100% sure, at 31 grams..this is an old pic)

Any thoughts? All input is appreciated..thank you!

 

[raiquee]

Well, Tang is a line bred trait. Just like the snows. You breed darker tangs together, you tend to get nice dark offspring (not saying you don't get that a couple light ones once and awhile) What a lot of breeders will do, is breed your male and female, then incubate for male. Pick our the hottest looking couple, grow them up and which ever is darkest, breeds back to the female to produce even darker tangs. Same with snows. You want less yellow on your snows, its better to breed cleaner snows together to help eliminate that yellow. Will this gurantee no yellow? No at all. But it helps lower the chances.

Really its what do you think? Are they both good quality geckos? If so, give them a whirl. If you don't have other plans for the female. If she pops out things that aren't great, well next season breed her to something else then

 

[Milwaukee Reptiles]

Well, Tang is a line bred trait. Just like the snows. You breed darker tangs together, you tend to get nice dark offspring (not saying you don't get that a couple light ones once and awhile) What a lot of breeders will do, is breed your male and female, then incubate for male. Pick our the hottest looking couple, grow them up and which ever is darkest, breeds back to the female to produce even darker tangs. Same with snows. You want less yellow on your snows, its better to breed cleaner snows together to help eliminate that yellow. Will this gurantee no yellow? No at all. But it helps lower the chances.

Really its what do you think? Are they both good quality geckos? If so, give them a whirl. If you don't have other plans for the female. If she pops out things that aren't great, well next season breed her to something else then

While that just about sums it up, let me tell you what I tell anyone about breeding for tang:
Expect most of the babies to fall between the mother and the father. I'd say a good 90% are usually somewhere inbetween. You'll get the occasional one that's lighter or darker, but for the most part they are somewhere inbetween. Obviously if the mother and father are really close in color, there can't be too much room for "in between", but still 90% or so will closly resembe the parents.

 

[Kazoo]

Well, Tang is a line bred trait. Just like the snows. You breed darker tangs together, you tend to get nice dark offspring (not saying you don't get that a couple light ones once and awhile) What a lot of breeders will do, is breed your male and female, then incubate for male. Pick our the hottest looking couple, grow them up and which ever is darkest, breeds back to the female to produce even darker tangs. QUOTE]

So this is inbreeding..does this cause any problems?
Also, I have heard that you can wash out your tangs by breeding too many tang-on-tang, so to speak. I mean, I don't HAVE to breed her to my SHT..I also have an albino male, a patternless male, and heck, even a normal male.

I am completely new to this, and therefore open to ideas. If anyone has any ideas as to what an interesting project might be, I'd love to hear them. Currently I have:
0.1 rainwater albino,
0.1 tremper
1.1.1 "unknown" albino (I can never tell the different strains apart, maybe I will post pictures for clarification)
0.0.2 blizzards
1.1 patternless
1.1 normal (female with some tang influence)
0.1 hypo w/ carrottail
1.1 SHT; female baldy/carrottail

 

[raiquee]

usually when inbreeding causes problems, is when its constantly done. ie you take the son breed it to the female. they have a female you breed the father to that, raise up a male and breed it back to the mom...etc. It does cause deformities if done A LOT. But without this "line breeding" or inbreeding these tangs, snows and etc wouldn't be as dark or as clean or as whatever as they are today.

Stripes are another example. Actually if you go to albeys page, and look at his tang strope breeding section, it shows how he selectivly breed leos together to get better leos.

If you don't want to inbreed, thats fine. I mean i'd rather buy another tang male than breed him to her and then have to grow up a male and breed back. However, if i was to get an awesome baby with very distinct features, or was working on a specific project, then yes. Then i may breed it back to see if i can get those features even more distinct.

Like i said, its up to you. Personally your tang is probably your best bet..I'm not 100 percent on genetics but you can try your albino male, but i believe to get tang albinos your tang has to be het for albino. Not 100 percent sure however.

 

[Milwaukee Reptiles]

.I'm not 100 percent on genetics but you can try your albino male, but i believe to get tang albinos your tang has to be het for albino. Not 100 percent sure however.

Yup. Breeding an albino to a het will get you 50% albino, 50% het.

Breeding the albino to a normal tang will get you 100% hets.