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Brendan Magee - FAILING to Complete His Contract

The Magee's are known to be one of the good guys in this industry. I have heard/seen too many positive things about the two of you. Just take care of this and let it go away. That will show us that you word is one that can still be honored.

I don't know either of the Magee's. Because of this thread I've read up on Brendan and been to Tim's website. Even if they do work on some projects together I can't see how this reflects on Tim in the least. It seems to me to be unfair to keep tying him into this.
I realize Tim became involved because of the emails. The emails were unsolicited and unwanted. You take your chances in that case. If someone started to email because of his dealings with my brother I don't believe I would be too nice either.
 
kmurphy said:
I don't know either of the Magee's. Because of this thread I've read up on Brendan and been to Tim's website. Even if they do work on some projects together I can't see how this reflects on Tim in the least. It seems to me to be unfair to keep tying him into this.
I realize Tim became involved because of the emails. The emails were unsolicited and unwanted. You take your chances in that case. If someone started to email because of his dealings with my brother I don't believe I would be too nice either.

Kevin, you missed my point. They are known as the Magee's, who originated the Harlequin line. If your brother decides to go bad then it will still reflect on the Magee name. Tim has NOTHING to do with this at all and is NOT one of the bad guys. However, the actions of his brother, especially if he chooses to take the stance of screw you, will inevitably cost Tim money as well.

I highly doubt that you Kevin, would take the stance that Tim did by insulting Shawn when he has clearly been in the right here. Shawn did NOT insinuate or insult Tim in any way. He solicited his help, nothing more and nothing else. But, was met with hostility. Maybe this is displaced hostility that should have been directed to Brendan, I don't know. But what I do know, is that response was not warranted.

Again, Tim is not the one involved but ultimately the actions of your brother will have an effect on you.

Griz
 
Before this thread gets off track or causes bickering let me make sure this is clear –

This deal is between ME Shawn Morelan and Brendan Magee. NO ON ELSE.

I was trying what I thought was best to avoid posting here. Maybe I should have been harder and just posted after a few months and not cared, but I wanted to try every avenue I had to end this nicely. Unfortunately I thought going through his brother and another friend would help keep Brendan communicating. If that was wrong then I apologize. It obviously didn’t work.

I also mentioned it was not Tim’s deal then or now. I cannot help it if others associate them together; they do have the same last name and coined the Harlequins together so when one is mentioned the other is usually not far behind. Like it or not when you invent or release something together, you are associated together.

I would like to add there are 2 other GOOD GUY posts for Brendan but you have to search BCIbydesign as that is how I posted them in 2002. Please note an entire paragraph from that post on why this deal went so well below:

……..He remained in contact with me.. One thing I demand, as well as give, is constant contact. *If I am sending someone money, or someone has sent me money.. I leave nothing to chance.. I keep in contact so BOTH parties are comfortable. *It is not a great feeling to send out hundreds to thousands of dollars to someone and then not hear from them for days. *That is unacceptable.. * BCIbyDesign understood this and replied to every email I sent as well as called on the phone a few times………

This deal could have gone the same way- NOTHING on my end has changed since I wrote that, I conduct business the same and my expectations are the same.


Do what you need to do to recover what is yours from this guy
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I like this idea but I do not want to become the bad guy here, nor can I ask the breeder who has it to become the bad guy by allowing me to get the animal.

So now what? Contract is signed stating replacement with like animal or money, he is short on cash but has an animal but will not offer it?

Do I ask the breeder who has Brendan’s animal on loan to give me that animal? If that was even possible and I got the animal, then who is the bad guy?

Or is it not really Brendan’s animal anymore since he refuses to establish communication and by contractual agreement he should have already offered me the animal? Or another animal for that matter that we both agree on.

If you forget your mortgage payment.. the bank sends you a note as a warning, miss another and they may just come take your home and put you on the streets. Do Boas work the same? Do I just go REPO the animal from a breeder that does not even know this is going on? I have done my best to keep this civil and would like to resolve this but I do not see me trying to repo an animal as being accepted by others as a good thing to do.

What do you think? Do contracts in business work the same as Boa Contracts? A Contract in any fashion is just that - a binding agreement between two or more persons that is enforceable by law. I need the Boa Police to go and enforce this contract.

Also - If you would like to let Brendan know this thread is here you can email him at [email protected] I would email him but I am trying to keep everything Post BOI here for all to see so there are no mix ups.

Thanks
Shawn Morelan
www.Southernboids.com
 
Tim (aka Rain), is reading this as I type this.

Tim, do you know if Brendan will come on here and give his side? It sure would help to end any confusion and allow this deal to hopefully come to a mutually satisfying end. Good luck!

Griz

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I wasn't trying to suggest that you take an animal from a third party. There are other options open to you. The court system is one, might cost you more in the long run but will also get his attention and help prevent his doing this to someone else.

Involving this other party who has one of Brendan animals, well ya might send the guy a link to this thread so he knows what kind of person he's dealing with but you can't ask him to give you the snake. That would leave him in a real bind if he did it.

Do what you have to do legally..Randy
 
ravensgait said:
I wasn't trying to suggest that you take an animal from a third party. There are other options open to you. The court system is one, might cost you more in the long run but will also get his attention and help prevent his doing this to someone else.

Involving this other party who has one of Brendan animals, well ya might send the guy a link to this thread so he knows what kind of person he's dealing with but you can't ask him to give you the snake. That would leave him in a real bind if he did it.

Do what you have to do legally..Randy

I play softball with an attorney friend of mine. I asked her the other day if she handled collection letters. She had mentioned that since she is now a professor that she had let her malpractice lapse so she could not help me. However, she did state that attorneys will generally handle a collections letter and follow up, for a few hundred bucks. They generally pass it onto one of their assistants and then, after it is obvious the individual will not pay the amount owed, will turn it into the firms collection center. This will allow it to go against Brendan's credit rating and put you in a better place to seek reimbursement in civil court.

As always, seek your own attorneys advice as this was simply from a casual conversation I had. Good luck Shawn!

Griz
 
Shawn I agree with you 100% in regards to your seeking reimbursement from Brendan in any way you can. I think contacting him was a good move. I understand that you in no way hold him responsible. However, I do think the email exchange between you and him was irrelevant and didn't need to be posted. It appears to have caused him some damage, however slight.
Whether the Magee's can be separated remains to be seen. I know that if I was looking for something that Tim sold I probably wouldn't hesitate. The only reason I say probably is because I don't know him. There's nothing here that would dissuade me.
 
Correction - I think contacting Tim was a good move.


:ack2: How come these things are so easy to see AFTER you hit submit.
 
I think contacting him was a good move. I understand that you in no way hold him responsible. However, I do think the email exchange between you and him was irrelevant and didn't need to be posted. It appears to have caused him some damage, however slight.

Sorry for the multiple posts but I wanted to be sure this was clear. This about Tim Magee not Brendan.
 
Shawn...go for the entire $1,900 and stop pussyfootin' around. Brendan does NOT deserve you keep trying to make it easy on him, to do something for you.

You were prepared to take a BIG loss by taking a lower worth animal, and still it wasn't good enough for mighty Brendan.

Enough is enough, stop hoping and trying for him to work something out.

The arrogance and incredible attitude of Brendan is off the chart already. And yes, it does not shine a nice light on his brother. He himself told Shawn it would be smarter to just back off, or risk getting nothing...WHATEVER !!!

Unbelievable how some bad people think they can dictate everyone, jerk the chains and keep their arrogance and holier then thou attitude on top of this.

Time to get a lawyer involved and time to go for ALL of it. Think about small claims court, too...

Shawn you have a CONTRACT. Now go get your money, ALL of it.
 
Written by Repfriend:
And yes, it does not shine a nice light on his brother. He himself told Shawn it would be smarter to just back off, or risk getting nothing...WHATEVER !!!

I rest my case.
 
kmurphy said:
Written by Repfriend:


I rest my case.

Using the words of Tim:

Tim Magee said:
The thing I have learned about stirring sh*t is
that,even when you're in the right,you usually can't help,but get some
on ya!

Sorry Kevin, but you and I have differing opinions. I understand defending one's family but not to the extent that it harms the family's name. Tim, even though he is not the one in question here, has certainly not helped the cause either. Hence the reason why I said, this will ultimately harm the Magee name not just Brendan's. Therefore, it's in THEIR best interest to reach a satisfying conclusion here.

Griz
 
Griz said:
Using the words of Tim:



Sorry Kevin, but you and I have differing opinions. I understand defending one's family but not to the extent that it harms the family's name. Tim, even though he is not the one in question here, has certainly not helped the cause either. Hence the reason why I said, this will ultimately harm the Magee name not just Brendan's. Therefore, it's in THEIR best interest to reach a satisfying conclusion here.

Griz
Wait wait wait, let me see if I have this right.

What you're saying Griz, I think, is that IF one were to do the RIGHT thing, it would not ONLY be of benefit to oneself, but to one's family as well?

No way. Really?

That's all there is to it? No bullshit, no lies, no run around, no knotted knickers?

Come now, it can't be so simple as you seem to be saying.

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Sorry Kevin, but you and I have differing opinions. I understand defending one's family but not to the extent that it harms the family's name. Tim, even though he is not the one in question here, has certainly not helped the cause either. Hence the reason why I said, this will ultimately harm the Magee name not just Brendan's. Therefore, it's in THEIR best interest to reach a satisfying conclusion here.

Griz

In that case it is interesting that Tim hasn't posted, if only to clear up some of the points where his name came up. Everyone can see that he has been reading along.
 
Not even knotted knockers! :)

You would hope it was common sense, wouldn't you?

Griz
 
You would hope it was common sense, wouldn't you?

Not exactly. My brother has blown up checks behind every store counter in the city. To make matters worse we look alike. I make damn sure people know I'm not him.

I still say if Tim's emails were left out of the original post his name would be barely mentioned. As was the case in the other thread regarding Brendon that I read. Once again Shawn, I agree with you in your quest. But you never posted your emails to Tim only that you sent him this and that. Posting his emails served no purpose other than to cast a bad light on Tim. Which I believe was accomplished for some.
 
Is this thing On?

Four days since the original post - There has been No contact from Brendan.

I have been forced to wait for 7 months and I thought he was just ignoring me.

I thought if others knew the story and agreed I had waited long enough, Brendan would respond.

Looks like I am not the only one he is ignoring.

Shawn Morelan
www.Southernboids.com
 
Yeah your gonna have to use the law to recover what he owes you.. One thing about it is that more and more people see this thread so the longer he waits the more damage he'll do to his reputation. Randy
 
Well, it appears that Brendan is trying to lay low as he evidently has pulled similar stunts on others. I have received several emails/phone calls from individuals to whom he has either had very poor dealings with or he is still indebted to. One individual in particular, who has requested anonymity, is owed thousands from Brendan!!!!

Without divulging further details on that particular dealing, there is apparently more information on that deal that Brendan is hiding as well. I hate "talking in code" but until I receive the permission to list that information I have to honor my word. Needless to say, it is relevant though.

Shawn, I would go this week and speak to an attorney. You can find them where the initial consultation is free so you at least have a better idea on how to proceed. Given the additional information I have (I can PM you with the details), I would say that you will have more than enough information to proceed.

Keep us informed!

Griz
 
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