Brian Smith-Inquiry

[Josh Burm Guy]

Wow,.... all along I had thought you were really unintelligent,.... but low and behold,.. there was a genius lurking allllll the while, lmao.

(pssst,....... um,... Burmboy is not me)

Burmboy does, as I have stated in this thread three times now, I sent him an email yesterday afternoon. He has not emailed me back. I inferred that he was in fact brian/damon/josh in that email. Had I or you or anyone else, most likely, gotten that email, the most probable reply would have been that I was mistaken in my thinking.

Since I recieved no reply at all it sure looks like burmguy is brian/damon/josh.

Got anything to add brain/damon/josh?

Wes Pollock

 

[Wilomn]

Then for now I will table the burmboy identity issue. See how easy it is when you actually answer for yourself brian/damon/josh?

Wes Pollock

 

[Brian Oakley]

No Damon, I do not think the world revolves around me. but I thought I would speak to the issues that were brought up in our emails. Wow, what a concept!
Ok, you got me Damon, I misspelled a word or two. $h!t happens when one has been trying to follow all this and what not.........just a bit tired. Is that the best hting you can find to hold against me? Would it be ok with you if I said I was not thinking clearly. I am well aware of how to spell, but I slipped up........nothing you haven't done.............a few times a day! Oh, I forgot. When people tell lies (and it is documented in the world of science), people start to believe their bs as fact.
Thank you for clearing up the time line for me, just like Wes said, amazing what can be accomplished when you come post some straight answers instead of the stupid BS like green tea. Now on the other hand, with the outstanding track record you have, how can one BELIEVE that you sold those snakes as "sick snakes"? Just a question, as I do not have proof.

Gosh, Damon, you have worn me out for tonight. I must go to sleep and think of better ways to get others in on this conspiracy against you.
Good night all!

 

[Wilomn]

Say there brian/damon/josh, any chance of you telling us who you sold your SICK snakes to way back when? The breeding world was considerably smaller back then and while I remember you not at all I may remember these two start up breeders you mention. Then we could verify whether or not you told them the snakes you sold them were sick. A quick and simple way to clear your name in one instance of doubt. Won't do much for the many others but, it's a start.

Wes Pollock

 

[HerpVenue]

Yeah, Cages and Constrictors has some great deals, huh? A free year's supply of rats and a free box of quality green tea with every purchase. Pretty darn cool, huh?

Thank you. Brian / Damon / Josh. Now how did you know who I was talking about?

Oops,.... was that supposed to be some form of blackmail or leverage? My bad,. I went and ruined it. Sorry.

I guess he has nothing else to lose. Now that we know he is Brian / Damon. Why don't you go ahead and change your name in your profile Damon Heynen?

Crimmeny Batman,.. you and your other caped crusaders have indeed made the world a safer place. lol

Yes we have Brian Smith / Damon Heynen / Damon Anderson / Josh Andrew Stewart / Cages-N-Constrictors /damonsmorphs / radical rats / radical reptiles4u / radical rats 4u / tuesday smith.
Now ask yourself. Why would a "good guy" need so many names to hide from other herpers?

and I don't know if you and Sybella are going out....but when you stick a gun to her face...she too will change her tune.

By the way. Whatever happened to the subpoena you were gonna serve me and the owner of this site?

Because Mr. Oakley, it is very simple. I don't feel I owe you or anyone else ANY explanation for ANYTHING non-herp related. To this point in this whole ridiculous, vicious thread wholey constructed to destroy my credibility not a single herp related allegation has been proven with a single shred of evidence.

1. Too all my naysayers....In case you missed it. I was right. josh Burm guy is Damon Heynen.

2. Hey Damon.....you mean I did not prove anything with your miniature dollar bill next to your so called "breeders" ?

3. YOu mean I was wrong when I said Josh Burm guy is really Damon Heynen?

I don't think any non-herp related stuff matters one bit. But maybe that's just me.

It matters if you have manslaughter and murder charges and people around here have been received threats from you.

I have not furthered anything else because the other party involved has kept his word and have not gotten involved.

1. In your e-mails or post on KS you say he did not fulfill his end of the bargain....Now you are saying he does.

2. Go ahead and expose him...... all you will really show is your animals have it. Because it was YOUR animals that has had the necropsy. Don't tell me he had his necropsied and sent you the results.

Now, please do not bother emailing me or posting any questions to me, because quite frankly Mr. Oakley I do not like you one bit and I will not stoop to post to you again.

Brian don't you find that rather ironic coming from a guy who contacted youfirst and tried to get you to his side?

Don't flatter yourself Oakley. Nothing you or anyone else in here can say or do can "make me angry" or "frustrate" me. I couldn't care less about this entire thread.

He is not angry or frustrated. he only threatened to sue me.

Now, I suppose you could ask Damon directly yourself now that he's now posting in this thread...but, since a forum username isn't really "herp related" and you wont believe him either, I don't think there's any point.

No point? You mean having tons of fake names is nothing important?

So were not in America and I'm liar now? Wes, I really like you but this is starting to really tick me off. Please don't tell me not to post and then call me a liar ever again

Sybella did you expect these people to tell you the truth? I mean you did not even know the guy was posting as Josh Bur Guy. Or did you?

When I sold the remaining snakes of my colonies from the 80's it was to a couple of upstart breeders that thought they could better cure the sick snakes.

That is funny.... Now you make it sound like the 80's...could have sworn in your post on KS it was 1990 - 1991

With that being said,.... (sigh),..... I must state again that I have never once sold any snake that was less than 100% healthy,.. to ANYONE! Before the unedjumacated ones jump up and say, "But ya'all sold them thar sick snakes to those guys!", I don't count that as they knew they were sick up front and it was part of the deal.

Infected is infected... No matter how you butter it up

Now,... (sigh),.... Ritchie Lunie once posted that I had connections with Whitefeather. It's absurd and untrue and that was why I brought it up and denounced it as preposturous.

Nice try.

Before I responded to this thread........You already wrote about whitefeather. You already defended the guy. THAT is why I mentioned him. Get your lies straight big boy. I read your post or e-mail about whitefeather. Several pages later is when i actually responded to this thread.

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Ritchie Luna

Your overly neurotic and highly obsessive nitpicking and distorting of facts may work on other people, but it'll never work on me. Go ahead and waste your time. Nothing you or anyone else in here say/s can possibly do me any real harm in any real way. My breeding will go on. It is and will continue to be successful. My life is completely unaffected by you and all of this.

Get a life. Get a girlfriend (or "life partner" if that be the case). Whatever you do get a life outside of me and your other obsessive pursuits in here that are merely transparent "one-ups" to make others look bad in order to try to make make you look good.

it ain't workin. You just look like a guy with no life.

Now then, like Oakley, I feel that you are beneath me and I will no longer respond to anything posted from you.

Good day.

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Hey now,.. even though we have our differences, I have to admit that this was pretty stand up of you. It's good to see that not all of the people in here are blindly biased in a single minded obsession with "attempting" to make me look bad.

Way to go.

Then for now I will table the burmboy identity issue. See how easy it is when you actually answer for yourself brian/damon/josh?

Wes Pollock

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Re: Damon,

Hi Cap,

You have brought up my house time and time again and referred to it as a shack. You have brought up me and my money (or lack thereof, lol) time and time again. Forgive me for psychoanalyzing you here, but I cannot help but see a pattern. It has been desperately important to you to try to demonstrate to the world around us that I am a poor boy in a crappy shack. Why is this? Do you perhaps have some form of an inferiority complex because maybe you are poor? And maybe it really irks you deep down inside that I own TWO houses,. (not just one), nice vehicles, and a whooooole lotta really nice snakes? Does this bother you in some pathetic way because you have worked all your life and maybe have very little to show for it? But I have never had a job and have pretty nice thngs? It seems this way to me. But okay,.. for the sake of appearances (yours, not mine),.. I will go along with your vision of how I got things. K? Here it goes,..

Everything Captain Slackass says is 100% true. I have a terribly tiny little torn down shack right up against the fence of a busy airport. I don't own any snakes, but once saw one in a pet shop and posted a picture of it as my own. I don't drive Beemers and high quality trucks, but instead I walk everywhere I have to go. Barefoot even as I cannot afford shoes. I don't have a penny to my name and I am currently on a computer belonging to the local mission where I am fed bread and soup each day.

Good enough Cap? I admitted it. You can feel a LOT better about you now.

What you call your house is your business. I'd absolutely call it a shack. Not that living in a shack makes you a bad person. I'm sure that plenty of good folks live in shambles. The point is that you continue to misrepresent yourself as a rich and successful businessman, which you most certainly are NOT.

You live by the airport in San Bernadino. I remember because I looked it up last year before you changed your number to an unlisted one.

I remember that pic you had on ebay. There was a reason that Adina started in with the "white trash" comments... Now I don't think that it's nice to go around calling people white trash under any circumstances, but if the place wasn't such a rundown wreck she would have never brought it up. Too bad she did. You may have never gone to the BC forums, and I would have never had the misfortune of your death-threats.

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Yeah, I'll try, but I don't remember their full names. One was named "Nick", and I can't remember the other guy's name. But they lived in El Monte for a while in 90 and 91 and then moved somewhere else. They were homosexuals and "together". They both had HIV and had some other wealthy boyfriend/lover that bought them lots of snakes whenever they wanted them. The wealthy lover had gotten a huge settlement from some accident when he was struck by a fuel truck at a gas station. I'd never met the rich lover. Nick and (I'm thinking Steve, but I'm not 100% sure) had purchased a number of snakes from me before my colony was infected and were long term customers of mine at the time they bought the entire lot. Steve (or whatever his name was) had a tattoo of two male symbols interlocked on his upper arm. Nick was about 30 and "Steve" was about 20. I don't remember much else. They lived on Valley blvd in El Monte up to the point of the Rodney King Riots. They had lots of dogs.

I know how this sounds, so I hope someone recognizes these guys and posts it here before one of my forum admirers pick my story here apart, lol.

But seriously Wes, that's how it went down.

Say there brian/damon/josh, any chance of you telling us who you sold your SICK snakes to way back when? The breeding world was considerably smaller back then and while I remember you not at all I may remember these two start up breeders you mention. Then we could verify whether or not you told them the snakes you sold them were sick. A quick and simple way to clear your name in one instance of doubt. Won't do much for the many others but, it's a start.

Wes Pollock

 

[HerpVenue]

Your overly neurotic and highly obsessive nitpicking and distorting of facts may work on other people, but it'll never work on me. Go ahead and waste your time.

First you post that in 1989-1991 Slither city tried to shut you down. But it didn't work.... So instead someone infected your ENTIRE breeding stock. That would mean they got infected after 1991 . Then you post that the stuff of selling the remainder of your stock happened in the 80's. That is not nitpicking. YEARS is not nit picking

Nothing you or anyone else in here say/s can possibly do me any real harm in any real way. My breeding will go on. It is and will continue to be successful. My life is completely unaffected by you and all of this

it can't affect you...... that is why you threatened to sue me and this site right?

if no one reads anything...
I hope they read this
You like to sign up as different people.....post as different people....and talk bad about your "competition"

It is nice to know you have no real comment on anything I said.
I liked the way you avoided everything I said. BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT. I have you pegged to a T and it is pissing you off.

I own TWO houses,. (not just one), nice vehicles, and a whooooole lotta really nice snakes? Does this bother you in some pathetic way because you have worked all your life and maybe have very little to show for it? But I have never had a job and have pretty nice thngs?

A guy like you has all these things. And you still feel the need to get a miniature dollar bill to show the world your "breeders" . Looks to me like someone was feeling in adequate. Looks like someone was just posting about something they don't have. Sort of like the thing in quotes up there.

Subject: Re: Re:
Money talks
and believe me dipsh!t, I have a WHOLE lot more money than you could ever dream of having

And here he is trying to convince someone he is rich...........AGAIN

Subject: Re: Re:
Yeah, lol, I would react just the way you are, lol. If I was unaware.
XXXXXX,.. If you only knew. I don't know what kind of punk you think I am but I am not that. I am so much more. Hell,.. If I wanted to, I could "send some guys".
But I won't. For this one, it has to be me. You have to see MY eyes.
And in turn I must see yours. And I must gloat when I read the fear and recognition
You really shouldn't have talked sh!t

Damon sent this threatening letter to a member of the herp community. I just want to say I did not get it from the person he threatened. I got it from someone else. But I can't say who because I have to protect their well being.

Subject: Re: Re:
Ok, if he was me,.. then I will ad this to what I am
taking personal
XXXXX,.. you must have lived in a very sheltered existance, but there is a very real and very ugly world out there. A world with
really bad people in it When the dust settled from the big fiasco I was not hating you.... but I am now,.. it's not healthy,...
Trust me when I assure you that I actually have power
via sheer wealth. And though I can have ANYTHING done, I prefer to be there personally.
Make no mistake XXXXX boy, I am not some dipsh!t boy.
You had better start reevaluating your thoughts

1. There he goes with the "I am rich" talk again.
2. And he says his criminal past has no bearing on how he does his REPTILE business. NOTE: He is talking to another member of the reptile world.

Then how did he know about the two different spellings of my last name? To the letter? You are the only person that knew that. And he pointed out the miniaturized dollar bill in the pictures. Again, you were the only one that knew about that. If you can explain just these two things (cause there are a few more things) then I would be overjoyed because this is the last thing I want to think about you. I want to believe that you are my friend and wouldn't do something to hurt me

AAAHHH The miniature dollar bill. Nice to know Damon can lie about the things he really has.


Hey I am not "Rich and Powerful"
But isn't it amazing what kind of information I can get?

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Simply amazing

,........ and?

 

[CaptainSlackass]

Everything Captain Slackass says is 100% true. I have a terribly tiny little torn down shack right up against the fence of a busy airport. I don't own any snakes, but once saw one in a pet shop and posted a picture of it as my own. I don't drive Beemers and high quality trucks, but instead I walk everywhere I have to go. Barefoot even as I cannot afford shoes. I don't have a penny to my name and I am currently on a computer belonging to the local mission where I am fed bread and soup each day.

Oh my god. Somebody print this up and frame it. It's the closest thing to the truth that Mr. BS has ever uttered. Take a picture boys, it won't last.

LMMFAO

A picture is worth a thousand words. Every time you talk about your colonies, I picture your that run down hovel. Even the cages that you have your snakes in are just crappy plywood jobs. Jeez, if you were so rich you'd think they'd be in animal plastic cages, Visions, or maybe even Neodesha's (since you've been around for so long). Nope, not you... why spend money on a cage when there's so much usable plywood in the front yard? Oops... is it really a yard if theres nothing there but dirt and gravel?

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

That's correct. I finally admit it. I live in a hovel. In fact Cap, I don't even have any snakes at all. The snakes pictured with the undersized dollar are someone elses. I have never owned a snake. I'm afraid of them. But if I ever did have any,.. sure, I would probably use plywood. Who's to say though. I never plan on getting any.

Ta ta.

Oh my god. Somebody print this up and frame it. It's the closest thing to the truth that Mr. BS has ever uttered. Take a picture boys, it won't last.

LMMFAO

A picture is worth a thousand words. Every time you talk about your colonies, I picture your that run down hovel. Even the cages that you have your snakes in are just crappy plywood jobs. Jeez, if you were so rich you'd think they'd be in animal plastic cages, Visions, or maybe even Neodesha's (since you've been around for so long). Nope, not you... why spend money on a cage when there's so much usable plywood in the front yard? Oops... is it really a yard if theres nothing there but dirt and gravel?

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

P.S.

And I'm poor. I almost forgot that part.

 

[CaptainSlackass]

I never disputed the fact that you own snakes. In fact I believe I said that you own some very nice snakes... right next to a miniature dollar bill.

 

[CaptainSlackass]

Oh ... and when you said that you'd rip my head off... what was the name of that little dance you said you were going to do around my spiked head? It sounded like some kind of wierd ritual... but I can't remember the name of it... Help me out, I'd like to do some reseaarch into it... probably be interesting reaading, at the very least.

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

No,... I lied about those too. I never owned any snakes. And I simply rented the BMW and other vehicles to try to impress Becky while she was here. In fact, I am just the gardener here at this shack. The owners were in burmuda and the snakes Becky saw were theirs. I think it's about time I come clean since I know it's just a matter of time before you and the other whiz kids reveal these facts.

Well,. I gotta go cut the grass/gravel now. Sorry I lied. I am so ashamed.

I never disputed the fact that you own snakes. In fact I believe I said that you own some very nice snakes... right next to a miniature dollar bill.

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

I don't know Cap. I was drunk that night and it was a long time ago. Sorry I scared you so bad and made you pee in your panties and cause you to hold a grudge so long. Really. I'm not a Satanist, and like every white man I can't dance worth heck anyway.

Oh ... and when you said that you'd rip my head off... what was the name of that little dance you said you were going to do around my spiked head? It sounded like some kind of wierd ritual... but I can't remember the name of it... Help me out, I'd like to do some reseaarch into it... probably be interesting reaading, at the very least.

 

[CaptainSlackass]

So what you're telling me is that you just made the whole thing up... there really is no "dance around a spiked head" ritual.

I'm disappointed now.

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Nope,... no dance around the spiked head. I was just drunk and angry that night. I don't have that kind of capability in me. I'm a real easy going person and have a very gentle nature.

So what you're telling me is that you just made the whole thing up... there really is no "dance around a spiked head" ritual.

I'm disappointed now.