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I have HEARD in Pythons (I do not have first hand experience with sick/diseased snakes) that once infected it can be as little as weeks. With boas it can go unknown for years......all the while infecting other animals in the collection.
Problem is, there is not a test such some diseases like IBD. Only way to tell is by necropsy after death.

Again, I could be off on some of this, like I stated I have never had the problem so I am just sharing what I have heard/read through the years.
 
It's sounds about as barbaric as injecting rabbits with urine...but since there's no test for IBD, I guess it has a place. I don't think I could ever bring myself to do it though. :(
 
just some link I found on IBD and other diseases in snakes


http://members.iinet.net.au/~bush/append21.html


Note the part in the below link that states, "there is no blood test available to determine the presence of this virus"

http://www.australianreptilesonline.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=12

http://www.australianreptilesonline.com/modules/news/article.php?item_id=16


This was not put here to prove anything about anyone in thsi thread, simply to inform. There are ALOT of sites I found with info on different diseases in reptiles when doing a search on Google.com, I just picked these out as they were more general in nature.
 
Damon, since you are reading this, maybe you could answer this question for me.
Did you ever live in the "high desert" area? How about a 760 area code. Might be talking with someone who knows you!

Forgive me if I messpelled anything.
I am still looking for an ejacasion!
 
Hey Damon!
Where you ever partners with Danny Woosley?


Just looking for a yes or no answer, no sarcasm is in my thread or intended.
 
Damon, was it rodents OR boas/pythons you all bred together....or maybe all the above?

Why did you all have a falling out?
 
Yes. Everything bad anyone says is 100% true.

I really don't have any snakes. But if I did they would undoubtedly all be contaminated with IBD and every other known reptile contagion as I would undoubtedly be careless and not practice any form of precautionary measure, such as a quarantine. But like I said, I lied about having expensive snakes to try to impress the reptile world. Sorry to everyone that believed in me.

I have never had a partner, but if I did I'm sure it would be whitefeather or someone else of his ilk. Maybe if I ever actually get into doing any real business I will consider it.

Now what?
 
And did you get the disease from anonymous third parties?
Or was it really from one of the animals you imported?


And was it your neighbor
or was it some anonymous fool off the streets that you offed?
 
Damon,
I appreciate the insight, but I never said that you HAD IBD. I simply put up the links I did to educate people who were inquiring about that and other diseases.

Now that we are past that, are you saying you do not know Danny Woosley? Quite a few emails I receive say much diffferent.

I do not know, but like I told you in the past, if I have a question I will go to you rather than assume it as fact.
 
Yes, I do know Danny Woosley. He's a good guy and I would appreciate it if he is not badmouthed here. I just used to get my rats from him before I bred my own.

These being rats for resale as I do not own any snakes to feed them to. But like everything else I have ever tried to succeed at, my rat resale business failed utterly too.

Though I must state it is very odd that business is up over 400% as of today due to this thread. Way cool, I may just pull out of my swan dive yet. Thanks guys.
 
Objection!!

Asked and answered.

It has already been demonstrated beyond a resonable doubt that I am in fact a raving mad, mass murderer. This is established fact.

However,.. it has yet to be shown that I have ever actually killed a reptile customer. (not that I have any, but if I had, etc)

And while it is irrelevant to reptiles in general it is relevant to my character that I am a neo-nazi card carrying communist that attends anti-american rallies in my spare time.

Now what?
 
that's hilarious

That's hilarious that you wouldn't want to say anything bad about Danny.... when he's the one that's filled us all in on what a scum bag you are. How else would we know about you killing your neighbor "on accident"? The disease from the imports you two brought in? Your alligators... which are illegal in California correct? Apple Valley, that's in california isn't it?

I'm not the best person in the world.. but jesus.. act somewhat mature about this.. People directly feed off of your responses.. This is what has caused your downward spiral... Oh well, I just wanted to clear that up.

Did Danny ever get rid of the problem with Crypto he had? I wouldn't know, he won't talk to me since he screwed me on those striped boas.

Hasta,
J
 
Danny wouldn't bad mouth me anymore than I would badmouth him. He's one of the best friends I've ever had. So you can ditch those lies.

In fact, we've got reason to believe that you stole some cages and were just discussing it the other day.

Care to comment on that Jordan? And if anyone takes the time to pull up your name in this forum they'll find all kinds of stuff about you, won't they,. about all the people you screwed over a couple of years ago. Danny told me all about it.
 
I asure you, Damon, I will not say anything bad about Danny. I do not know him, never emailed him, never talked to him. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, I have not said anything "bad" about anyone. I only ask questions regarding the info i am receiving from many people that I promised I would not mention their names.

For some reason people "appear" scared to share the info they know about you. I say that because I have been told that. Everyone I hear from does not want to come forward in fear of retaliation......in whatever way. Where are all the people that could be emailing me saying you are a good, upstanding, trustworthy, honest guy. My Inbox is not full (can never be since all emails go directly to my hard drive) so I will wait patiently for those emails to arrive. Where are all the people, as described above, that could come here and post on your behalf. Like you said to me on the 29th, you just wanted me to see the truth. I am sure I am not the only lucky person to have recevied emails from you, Damon. I suppose your game plan of building this "army" to go into battle with you is failing left and right.

My goal here is to find out the truth about you and your endeavors. If the truth makes you a "good" guy, then fine. If not, only you could have helped that long before this thread came about.
 
You are right, Damon. Jordan may have been on this BOI before, but PELASE stick to the issues at hand. This thread is NOT about Jordan, I believe the thread has YOUR name.........ooopps, your FAKE NAME in the title.

I apologize to everyone for Damon's attempt to detour our minds fromt he issues at hand here..............that being DAMON (Brian, Josh, and whoever else), NOT Jordan.
 
100% honest truth

No,.. you, Ritchie, Captain, Al and any others that diligently revealed all the facts about me and my awful past did a very thorough job.

I do not deny it. I am a bad person. I do not advise that anyone do business with me. I lied about having reptiles. I breed some rats and try to sell them to make some money, but until today sales have been poor at best.

Seriously man,.. I am utterly exposed and ruined.

Now what do we do?
 
Wow, this has got to be some sort of a record.

Over 400 posts in 10 days and about 15 thousand hits. Darn that's amazing.


Note: I am not trying to detour from the issues at hand. To keep on track here are the facts; I am a liar, a thief, I ripped off Prehistoric pets and Slither city too, I am a murderer and am not to be trusted. I am just a downright dirty scoundrel. I admit everything Ritchie and the others say. It's all true.

I just want to know where we go from here now that I have clearly admitted to all charges.
 
I do not doubt that you ever and/or have snakes. In fact that is about the only thing that people have said in their emails that coincides with what you say. I was told that you have/had boas, burms, and yes aligators too.

You say sales are up greatly. If that is the case why did you tell someone that that all these "rumors" that have been spread do damage. Was it something about losing countless sales?
I would post the whole email, but I gave someone my word that I would not expose them. See, I AM a man of my word and do not lie. You can;t say differently because I NEVER told you I would keep quiet. In fact all emails, like I told you before, have been forwarded to someone else so they can back up what I say when I quote you. Just the little smart things I think of when dealilng with someone of your calibur.

So, "what do we do now"?

Great question. I will let you know as soon as I get more info. It is coming in regularly and I don't even have to recruit people like you tried to. I may be small in the reptile world compared to other breeders, BUT my PERSON spreads wide throughout this wonderful community of ours. THAT is why people know they can email me Damon. They are safe with me.
 
Here is the problem with your last post. How do we know to take it seriously if you indeed are speaking from the heart.?
If you MEANT what you said (I am not sure at this point), I would be the first to complement you for standing up and saying it. It is not what I want to hear, but IF it indeed is the truth, yes, I do want to hear the truth. Just like I told you before.

It is so hard for people to take you seriously. Like the boy who cried wolf. Once the truth came out, nobody believed him.
 
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