Brian Smith-Inquiry

[Sybella]

Thank you, Bobby! That was very nicely written and one of the prettiest posts I've seen in this thread!

Vince, that picture had nothing to do with his reptile sales. He's not out there "making fake photos." The picture was of his breeding stock, not something he intended to sell. Damon would never misrepresent an animal for a sale so you can rest easy on that.

The Bob Clark story, short and sweet: Damon bought some snakes from Bob. The snakes developed problems. Damon brought it to Bob's attention and Bob refused to accept any responsibility for the problems with the animals.

 

[W.Wedeking]

Vince, that picture had nothing to do with his reptile sales. He's not out there "making fake photos." The picture was of his breeding stock, not something he intended to sell. Damon would never misrepresent an animal for a sale so you can rest easy on that.

You mean "future" breeding stock because the snake in that faked photo is not big enough to breed, or did you forget that?

And what about the picture on KS that was supposedly of them breeding? Hmmmmm, no, I guess he would never misrepresent his animals for sale, just the breeders uke:

 

[Vince]

he is makeing fake photos, that one is a fake here ill post it again. dude im not bashing you are nothing but it looks bad when someone posts up photos from you that are fake. i am just trying to bring it to everyones attention. and it has alot to do with animales you sell, how can people be sure your other photos arent croped and or re sized , or color inhanced all these things are very easy to do useing simple programs, and there is proof that you are toying with things like this. this is not a personal attack like some of these other guys are trying to do. it is how ever something that needs to be brought to the attention of the board.

 

[Vince]

This photo is fake

this photo is the result of computer enhancements

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

I'll try to address everyone who has posted recently with one post here.

First of all, for Vince especially, I didn't "photoshop" that picture. I simply ran a dollar bill through my copy machine on 60% setting and placed the undersized bill next to a younger snake. But this was not to misrepresent my snakes so much as to make me seem like a different person so that I could post, which I had come to enjoy. If I came on as myself I was instantly booted.

And Ritchie, I never wanted to bring up Bob Clark and anything bad. I was kind of pushed into a corner on that one. I was 100% loyal to him for over a year and never even breathed a word to my closest friends about any of the snakes that had had problems. But after Bob didn't speak for me when his forum people went nuts on me I thought, why even bother being loyal. He wasn't to me. I feel that with one word he could have stopped all the trouble. But he let it happen. In his own forums. To one of his best customers. At the same time he stopped fixing the problems when they arose. At that point I trusted this information to my close friends but still never told "the world". Anyways, I still don't want to reveal the details. And I suppose you're right. Until I do my claims are to be considered unproven allegations. But it remains my one last ace in the hole.

Bobby, thanks for being rational and reasonable about the whole thing. Yes, you guys saw me at my very worst. But I have good sides too. Many of them. And though I don't want to rehash it or try to justify my actions I was ridiculed and harrassed until I cracked. Drinking heavily at the same time was like gasoline and fire. I regret that the whole thing happened. I really do. I wish I had never bought that albino labyrinth that I sold the skin on Ebay. None of any of this would have happened.

Incidently, that albino granite in the picture is now over 12 feet and is very gravid. She will be 3 years old in April and is due to lay January 29th. She was bred with a granite het albino male.

Just thought that might be relevant.

Those pictures are from Damon's account. If they are faked.......Well they were faked by him.
NOT by me.

I would NEVER photo shop someones pictures and then call him out for it. That's like framing him.


Yes Damon you are right. I too participated wrongly. But don't forget.... YOU also did the same thing. We do not see facts about your Bob Clark Story. All we see are allegations.

 

[Vince]

nice snake, but listen you still made a fake photo no matter how did it, thats pretty shady in my book. and if you would be instantly booted then you must deserve to be. faunaclassifieds.com is a ban free fourm from what i heard. so tell bob clark or kingsnake who ever is booting you instantly and forcing you to forge photos to go f~uk them self.

ps
faunaclassifieds.com is the best reptile related site on the net

 

[Vince]

fake phots AND create false identities

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Wendy,

The snakes recently pictured on KS mating were of my albino retics, one purple and one lavender phase. Those are real shots of real breeding. That particular female is due somewhere around the end of February, though I'm not 100% sure. She first bred with a male tiger 100% het albino retic, so the babies will likley be half tiger albino or tiger het albino. She is not my only gravid retic that will produce albino babies this year.

I have pictures of the albino granites mating too. All are real pictures and not distorted in any way. And that picture with the miniturized dollar was taken well over a year ago. That female pictured is gravid and due Jan 29th.

You mean "future" breeding stock because the snake in that faked photo is not big enough to breed, or did you forget that?

And what about the picture on KS that was supposedly of them breeding? Hmmmmm, no, I guess he would never misrepresent his animals for sale, just the breeders uke:

 

[Vince]

hey and by the way you may not want to talk about makeing copys of dollar bills, espcialy on the internet. i know you did it for whatever jackass reason and not to make counterfits, but you could get into some real trouble doing that kind of stuff. and by the way good luck with all the eggs on the way. i may be interested in one of those baby albino granets.

 

[Josh Burm Guy]

Thanks for the best wishes on the eggs. My babies will be the cheapest in the market so look for them in 3 months if you are still wanting one.

I don't think it's anything to worry about when you copy a bill if it is drastically undersized or oversized or only copy one of the two sides. But thanks for the advice all the same. Who knows for sure in this day and age.

hey and by the way you may not want to talk about makeing copys of dollar bills, espcialy on the internet. i know you did it for whatever jackass reason and not to make counterfits, but you could get into some real trouble doing that kind of stuff. and by the way good luck with all the eggs on the way. i may be interested in one of those baby albino granets.

 

[meretseger]

Vince... you should start at the beginning of the thread... I think you missed it... We do all already know that the picture is fake. Just like everything else.

Erin Benner

 

[Vince]

this guy is crazy. dude you messed up big time with all this fake stuff. better change your name again.

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

too funny...

Vince, that was too funny! He probably already has
come up with another alias! Remember, the brian,
damon and josh ones are only the ones that we
have found out about so far. That doesn't mean
that there are not a whole slew of others already.

Damon,

So, you are suing me now, too? And the Webslave?
And Ritchie? All of this is to be done concurrently?
That could get really expensive!

Just how many of those mini dollar bills do you have??????


Sincerely,

Gino 'In Da Bronx' Beniquez

 

[CaptainSlackass]

Remember Scooter, Patrick? Remember when he posted that he killed all those cats? Well I love all animals and was appauled by this

Man don't even go there. Just because you may legitimatley love animals in no way makes up for the bad things you've done.
In fact it reminds me of a funny t-shirt I once saw...

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

still waiting...

Well, I have never backed down to a racist, lying
murderer, so I certainly wont start now.

With that, here we go:

To my own incredible surprise, damon (note the
lower case letters) has yet to file suit on me.

When you do, though, damon-can you tell me
which name you will be using? Ah, it doesn't
matter. Seeing as how I have never been sued
before, I will know that it is you. Should I be
waiting in my office at school? Or at home?
I really dont want to miss the guy when he
shows up.

No, no wait-it just occurred to me: maybe damon
hasn't hired an attorney, yet. Since you are
such a 'big breeder,' surely you have lots of
money lying around...

Or maybe you are having difficulty finding a lawyer
who accepts mini dollar bills? Or, is the bank
not willing to give you a second mortgage on
your shack?

So, you and sybella (note the case) both say that
you have never sold sick animals. You guys
wouldn't be fibbing, would you? Who did you sell
all of your original animals to? Remember, you
said that they were those gay guys somewhere?
What condition were those animals in?

damon, you are right about one thing: I was wrong
when I said that you were guilty of vehicular
homicide. And for that, I am sorry. You killed him
with a gun-not a car-my mistake!

I like you blanket threats and unsupported innuendo.
When are you going to post all of your necropsies on
Bob Clark's animals? How did you get them, by the
way?

When is Jay Brewer going to come and post in your
defence? You have been alluding to it for ages, yet
nothing has been done.

And how about all of the accusations that you
directed at Wes? Did he run you out of the business,
or not?

You never lie? That one is my personal favourite!
Why did you leave the herp business the first
time? You suggest that it was some grand
conspiracy orchestrated by Wes and Prehistoric.
Is that what happened?

Or, was it because you were in prison? You know,
for murdering that guy? Did all of those hours
spent getting your rectum reamed affect your
memory?

damon, you and sybella also claim that you are
not a racist Then, how do you account for all of
that filth that you proferred on the BC forums
and morelia.net? Patrick provided the evidence
for us. Then, Bobby Douglass and Doctor Jay
Owens both came on to confirm it. Are they
all lying? Are the Russians involved, too? The
whole world seems to be against you.

And for you sybella- blind faith is not noble, nor
is it intelligent. The 'man' that you support is
a loser (to put it mildly). You might want to open
your eyes and clue in. Afterall, blind faith got
a lot of people in trouble back in 1930's and
'40's germany. Learn from the past.

Sincerely,

Gino 'In Da Bronx' Beniquez

 

[Chris Kennard]

Gino, lol..

(sigh)

"still waiting...
Well, I have never backed down to a racist, lying
murderer, so I certainly wont start now".

Really? You run into "racist, lying murderers" often? What did you do to them since you never backed down from them before, lol?


With that, here we go:

"To my own incredible surprise, damon (note the
lower case letters) has yet to file suit on me".

Who cares?

"When you do, though, damon-can you tell me
which name you will be using"?

Again, who cares?


"Ah, it doesn't
matter. Seeing as how I have never been sued
before, I will know that it is you. Should I be
waiting in my office at school? Or at home?
I really dont want to miss the guy when he
shows up".

I hope he doesn't show up so we won't have to listen to this silly drivel for the umpteenth time!

"No, no wait-it just occurred to me: maybe damon
hasn't hired an attorney, yet. Since you are
such a 'big breeder,' surely you have lots of
money lying around..."

who cares!


"Or maybe you are having difficulty finding a lawyer
who accepts mini dollar bills? Or, is the bank
not willing to give you a second mortgage on
your shack"?

Too funny...yawn.

"So, you and sybella (note the case) both say that
you have never sold sick animals. You guys
wouldn't be fibbing, would you? Who did you sell
all of your original animals to? Remember, you
said that they were those gay guys somewhere?
What condition were those animals in"?

Don't you have ANYTHING NEW to add to this thread???


"damon, you are right about one thing: I was wrong
when I said that you were guilty of vehicular
homicide. And for that, I am sorry. You killed him
with a gun-not a car-my mistake"!

I guess the answer to my last question is NO.


"I like you blanket threats and unsupported innuendo.
When are you going to post all of your necropsies on
Bob Clark's animals? How did you get them, by the
way"?

Finally, a valid question. Halle-friggin-lujah!


"When is Jay Brewer going to come and post in your
defence? You have been alluding to it for ages, yet
nothing has been done".

Yawn...

"And how about all of the accusations that you
directed at Wes? Did he run you out of the business,
or not"?

yaaawwwnnn.


"You never lie? That one is my personal favourite!
Why did you leave the herp business the first
time? You suggest that it was some grand
conspiracy orchestrated by Wes and Prehistoric.
Is that what happened"?

Sounds to me like you are pissed off that this thread didn't stay up top, front and center, for your personal satisfaction. Do you have anything pertinent to add?


"Or, was it because you were in prison? You know,
for murdering that guy? Did all of those hours
spent getting your rectum reamed affect your
memory"?

Your post should be deleted for that comment.


"damon, you and sybella also claim that you are
not a racist Then, how do you account for all of
that filth that you proferred on the BC forums
and morelia.net? Patrick provided the evidence
for us. Then, Bobby Douglass and Doctor Jay
Owens both came on to confirm it. Are they
all lying? Are the Russians involved, too? The
whole world seems to be against you".

Patrick provided evidence? I must have missed it. Bobby Douglas and "doctor" Jay, lol, confirmed nothing.

"And for you sybella- blind faith is not noble, nor
is it intelligent. The 'man' that you support is
a loser (to put it mildly). You might want to open
your eyes and clue in. Afterall, blind faith got
a lot of people in trouble back in 1930's and
'40's germany. Learn from the past".

You still don't get it yet do you? Go back and read this whole thread with your good eye.

Sincerely,

Gino 'In Da Bronx' Beniquez


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[Sybella]

I think you nailed it down perfectly with your last 4 comments, Chris.

This is twice now that Gino has brought the thread back up from page two with more nonsense...which proves the spirit in which this thread was created in the first place, just to tear someone up. And now me along with him because my opinions differ. It's just juvenile ugliness that needs to stop.

 

[CaptainSlackass]

sigh...
Sybella,
When you finally find out about Brian first hand (or should I say first FIST) Know that I'll not take any pleasure in saying I told you so.

Some people just have to learn the hard way. It's a damn shame.

 

[CaptainSlackass]

Chris,

My claims about his racist comments were fully backed up by Doctor Owens, and Bobby Douglass, both of whom were THERE. Were you there?

What?

I didn't think so.

You bring nothing to this conversation. You act like you're involved somehow, but you aren't. Quite honestly, you really just don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I really wonder what your interest in all this is, beyond simply causing trouble... You've been nothing more than one of Damon's pocket trolls throughout the entire thread.

 

[Dr Owens]

Re: Gino, lol..

Patrick provided evidence? I must have missed it. Bobby Douglas and "doctor" Jay, lol, confirmed nothing.

Actually, I confirmed the fact that the events from the BCF were accurate in the way that Patrick relayed them. Bobby did the same. In a court of law, two witnesses providing matching eye witness testimony to an event is considered evidence.

Since you decided to type my name as: "doctor" Jay, do you have some sort of issue with the fact that I am a physician?