Bruce Stephenson -- Good Guy!

[Wilomn]

It didnt surprise me in the slightest.

Nor I.

brucie has a looooooooooooong history as a snitch and crybaby who has ALWAYS tried to buy his friends.

He turned on me when I declined to play his game, went so far as to threaten me with HIS bought and paid for friends.

I say now as I did then, AHAhahahahaHAHAHAHAhahahahaHAHahahAHAHahahHAHaha

 

[Wilomn]

08-26-2007, 03:53 AM
Ed Clark
Ball Python Lover.





Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Coast.
Posts: 1,307
Name : Ed Clark


Trader Rating: (44)


Warning Level: 145 Bruce and YOU.

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It just burns your behind that someone would say something good about Bruce.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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I'm afraid I just don't get this.

I know mr. clark stood up for brucie, after all, they both feed out of the same trough; they support scumbags by purchasing from them, but I don't get where my behind is burned.

I have, once again, pointed out that a scumsucking parasite was trying to pass itself off, by making big dollar purchases (as brucie did from mr. clark and isn't THAT interesting?) as a good guy.

brucie stephensen is not nor has he ever been, a good guy. He lies. He tries to steal which leads me to believe that he probably has stolen from others who were not brave enough to come forward after he ripped them off. Afterall, if you're a newb and he starts huffing and puffing and talking about all the people he knows, er has bought from, he might just scare someone off who didn't know that he's just a blowhard.

mr. clark, are you STILL standing up for this scumbag? Just because he spent several thousand dollars with you, mr. clark, are you now willing to overlook his outright lies and attempted theft?

Wow, mr. clark, you're one cheap date, aren'tcha? I hope you and bananaslug brucie have a good time with eachother. He's so sweaty, from his pics anyway, I bet you guys don'e even need any lube.

Now, after that visualization, I must go poke my eyes out.

I would appreciate it if you did NOT pm me in the future mr. clark. Anything you have to say to me you can say right here in the boi.

Thank you very much for your aquiesense to my wishes.

W

 

[Ed Clark]

Wes, I responded to this thread to report a GOOD transaction, and thats what it was.

I know nothing about Bruce's background at all. what concerned me was his willingness to purchase and pay for a group of Ball Pythons.

Are you saying that every seller has to do an investagation on everyone that buys a snake?

Wes, you posting on this thread is business as usual for YOU, everyone that does not see your twisted point of view and that does not agree with YOU is a scumbag(your word). Thank you for showing respect by calling me Mr. Clark!

08-26-2007, 03:53 AM
Ed Clark
Ball Python Lover

Mr. Clark, are you STILL standing up for this scumbag? Just because he spent several thousand dollars with you, Mr. Clark, are you now willing to overlook his outright lies and attempted theft?

 

[Wilomn]

Wes, I responded to this thread to report a GOOD transaction, and thats what it was.

I know nothing about Bruce's background at all. what concerned me was his willingness to purchase and pay for a group of Ball Pythons.

Are you saying that every seller has to do an investagation on everyone that buys a snake?

Wes, you posting on this thread is business as usual for YOU, everyone that does not see your twisted point of view and that does not agree with YOU is a scumbag(your word). Thank you for showing respect by calling me Mr. Clark!

I think you're lying mr. clark. I think you knew exactly what kind of person brucie was/is but you wanted the money more than you cared about who you were doing business with. It's not surprising to anyone who knows anything about you. You'll buy from or sell to anyone, which is your right.

It is because of your willingness to buy from or sell to anyone that I think you are a bad guy.

We've had this conversation before and you chose then to ignore my point just as you do now.

You're cheap mr. clark, inexpensively bought.

Some of us aren't.

I have also asked you NOT to call me Wes. Mr. Pollock is good enough for you and your sugarcoated self.

 

[Ed Clark]

Wes, let me ask you this? do you do an investigation on everyone that steps into your cab? do you tell any of your customers that you sell reptiles to that you have bought from others that you do not want their money?

Wes, take off your blinders and look around, but please jump down off your soap box first! Wes its becoming pointless your attacks on everyone here that you dont like. just saying.

Do you understand anything Im saying Wes?

I think you're lying mr. clark. I think you knew exactly what kind of person brucie was/is but you wanted the money more than you cared about who you were doing business with. It's not surprising to anyone who knows anything about you. You'll buy from or sell to anyone, which is your right.

It is because of your willingness to buy from or sell to anyone that I think you are a bad guy.

We've had this conversation before and you chose then to ignore my point just as you do now.

You're cheap mr. clark, inexpensively bought.

Some of us aren't.

I have also asked you NOT to call me Wes. Mr. Pollock is good enough for you and your sugarcoated self.

 

[critical bill]

Wow, mr. clark, you're one cheap date, aren'tcha? I hope you and bananaslug brucie have a good time with eachother. He's so sweaty, from his pics anyway, I bet you guys don'e even need any lube.

Incorrect. That sweaty pic of Bruce was when he was posing with Tommy. Edward doesn't seem like the kind of fella anyone would or could get hot and sweaty over. Lube would definitely be required. I'm thinking a tube or two for foreplay at least.

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

Why turn this thread into drama? Shouldn't it remain on topic -- which is Bruce? Keep your personal arguments between yourselves and not on here...that isn't what this is for.

I read that other thread, and that's really shady. HOWEVER, my transaction with Bruce went well and I am still pleased with it. Will I do business with him again? I don't know. What he pulled with those geckos was unacceptable (as well as dragging up old history), but he does have 17 positive feedback ratings and zero negative ones. I think the positives outweigh the negatives.

 

[shrap]

Ed,

You brought up a good transaction involving Bruce. As is your right on the BOI.

Wes brought up a bad transaction that Bruce was involved in. As is his right on the BOI.

Yet you felt you had the right to blow Wes crap for bringing up a legit bad guy transaction. Why? You dont think people have the right to know about all aspects of a buyer or seller?

Wes may not like Bruce, but his original post was very legit. It was not just some random "dont buy from Bruce because I dont like him" post. It was about an actual bad transaction. One that people should be aware of and take notice about.

And the sad part is, you have now been told about this repeatedly, yet you still keep acting like that bad transaction never happened. That it aint documented. That it is just some figment of Wes' imagination. Why? We all know it happened. We all know it is the truth.

So quit acting like it never happened just because the guy spent a lot of money with you. Feel free to tell about your good transaction, its your right. But it is also the right of others to tell about any bad transactions.

 

[Cat_72]

Wes its becoming pointless your attacks on everyone here that you dont like.

Ed, I'm glad that you have had successful transactions with Bruce.

However, I just don't see how it was "pointless" or inappropriate of Wes to also post details of a bad transaction that Bruce was involved in? Did you read what happened with those geckos? It was an awful thing, and deserves mention, as I simply cannot call someone who could commit such an act a "good guy".....and possible customers have every right to know both sides of the coin here, isn't that what the BOI is for?

 

[Ed Clark]

Cathy, I agree with you whole heartedly about getting all the information out there. never knew about any gecko deal.

The point I failed to make was the fact that people reporting positive transactions were being called scumbags, do you think thats right?

Ed, I'm glad that you have had successful transactions with Bruce.

However, I just don't see how it was "pointless" or inappropriate of Wes to also post details of a bad transaction that Bruce was involved in? Did you read what happened with those geckos? It was an awful thing, and deserves mention, as I simply cannot call someone who could commit such an act a "good guy".....and possible customers have every right to know both sides of the coin here, isn't that what the BOI is for?

 

[Cat_72]

Ed, it may serve you well to read up on Bruce's gecko deal....the link was posted earlier in this thread.

And no, it wouldn't be right for someone to call another a scumbag simply for posting a positive transaction. I'm fairly certain, however, that the posting of the positive transaction was not the incentive for the person to be using the "scumbag" moniker, I believe it was an opinion formed due to other issues, and had nothing to do with the post itself.

 

[Dave Lawson]

Bruce,

One day you are swimming in the tank with all your friends and the next day your bones are picked clean and floating on top on the water.

This is a quote from you that you made to someone that was in the same position that you are.

Bruce, do you still have the video of Morty the croc and the girl you shoved to the ground to get away from him?

 

[romad119]

Why turn this thread into drama? Shouldn't it remain on topic -- which is Bruce? Keep your personal arguments between yourselves and not on here...that isn't what this is for.

There are other threads and places for this. Ed Clark has his own thread, as an example, if you feel he is legitimately doing something that makes him shady. or cough up the $10 and give it a whirl in Hell?

I can never understand how some posts are filled with awesome butt-kicking input and then not a sentence later revert to playground antics.

IMO, Bruce is getting a break here, as everyone focuses on the other thread participants and their written duels. Really, whose posts are more entertaining and full of drama? Those are the ones most will remember.

As Bruce slinks into a corner, less eyes are on him as the thread spins to other foci.

 

[monkeywrench133]

Wes its becoming pointless your attacks on everyone here that you dont like.

Not in this case Ed. The purpose of the BOI is to provide information on people we may potentially do business with. That is the point.

And that is exactly what Wes did. I now have information regarding Bruce that I may not otherwise have had. I'm very glad that Wes brought that information to the table.

I do wholeheartedly agree with Alan on this point:

IMO, Bruce is getting a break here, as everyone focuses on the other thread participants and their written duels. Really, whose posts are more entertaining and full of drama? Those are the ones most will remember.

As Bruce slinks into a corner, less eyes are on him as the thread spins to other foci.

So, Ed, and Wes, please take the personal back and forth somewhere more appropriate.

 

[shrap]

Not in this case Ed. The purpose of the BOI is to provide information on people we may potentially do business with. That is the point.

And that is exactly what Wes did. I now have information regarding Bruce that I may not otherwise have had. I'm very glad that Wes brought that information to the table.

Thank you Erin!!

I never had any feelings good or bad where Bruce was concerned. Until I seen the whole thing unfold with the underhanded and unethical crap he tried to pull on GKO Reptiles. Followed by his unfounded attacks on Kelli and everyone else that did not agree with him. He was in the wrong, knows he was in the wrong and was going out of his way to rip off a couple of kids (GKO Reptiles) for something that was completely his own fault.

That is all I will ever need to know about Bruce.

 

[Keith Northrop]

Dude I'm assuming you poked your eyes out after descibing such a visual.....I can't see.....I can't see.......I think you would have been better off with NO hands.......HaHa........

Critical Bill.......Quote:
Incorrect. That sweaty pic of Bruce was when he was posing with Tommy. Edward doesn't seem like the kind of fella anyone would or could get hot and sweaty over. Lube would definitely be required. I'm thinking a tube or two for foreplay at least.

 

[Chameleon Company]

I have no dog in this hunt ...

Nor do I have an opinion or desire regarding who is the valid protagonist or antagonist here. What caught my interest was the base issue of what qualifies someone as being a "good guy", or the merit of a "good guy" post. Just IMMHO, if I posted a good guy thread just on the basis of a customer paying me cheerfully, on time, and without complaint once they received my goods, I would be posting with very little merit. It might make my customer happy, and want to buy from me again since I tooted their horn for giving me their money, but otherwise a good purchase is almost a non-event. At least if the situation were one of a buyer extending trust (and money) to a seller, and being rewarded for that trust, one could make a better case to praise a seller. But being a good buyer is not much of a threshold to achieve.

Secondly, I saw trader-ratings here touted. While many are earned, recent history showed Chris Johnson of TSE fame as the king or trader ratings, followed by Matt of MG. As demonstrated, an imperfect system.

Again, just IMMHO, but touting a buyer as a "good guy" does not rise to the merit expected to be a "good guy". Its meeting the most basic of expectations, and that is not an event. If there is a past event of being not-so-good, it is an invitation for what is usually seen as unintended consequences, as occured here. I am sure that the original poster only meant well, but I would thank all others who restrain from posting about someone being "good" or "bad" unless the subject faced more of an ethical test, and passed or failed accordingly.

 

[shrap]

Great post Jim. I could not agree more!!

 

[critical bill]

Yep.....it sure was a great post.

 

[Jim O]

As Bruce slinks into a corner, less eyes are on him as the thread spins to other foci.

Agreed. Let's not forget what Brucie tried to do to those two young people because of his own laziness, and how he treated Kelli H for her fair minded analysis of the situation.

In answer to Ed Clark's question, yes, I would have refused Bruce's money because there was a chance that those beautiful snakes might have wound up dead and Brucie would have blamed me for his own mistake.