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It is ok to do that pairing. The only risky thing would be if you hit on the "homozygous spider" that some believe to be lethal. Alot of nice stuff can come out of that pair tho. Good luck! a hypo killer bee would be sweet!
 
1 out of 10 for super killer bee would definitely make it worth my investment lol I already have my female orange ghost humble bee and I put a deposit on a male bumble bee het orange ghost today so now I have 3 balls with my male lesser/Mojave to start into this awesome hobby. All my Snakes are in the 400 gram range so it will be two years before I have babies though
 
I have heard plenty of breeders say they don't believe the lethal spider exists. Innocent until proven guilty, perhaps? Or maybe the eggs of those 'super-spiders' reabsorb in the womb. I say go for it and make some awesome snakes!
 
garweft said:
I say do it, keep everything spider, and try to prove out a super spider.
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:iagree: Me too. There has been no evidence of a lethal spider, or that "super spider" eggs don't thrive, as of yet atleast. I think if it was lethal we would know by now :thumbsup:
(not trying to turn this into a lethal/super spider debate thread, heh)
 
I'm with those that don't believe the "lethal spider" exists until I see some real proof. Personally, I would prefer a different pairing, mainly because there is no super form of the spider (no super visual) which means less diversity in the clutch. My other concern would be the possibility of making a more wobbly spider. I love the look of the spider, but have been reducing the number of them in my collection for that very reason.

I'm not convinced that bad wobblers will be produced. I guess that's something that's just always been in the back of my mind, but added to the "no super", and I've always declined to pair spider x spider, regardless of the combo. That's not to say that you won't get good results from pairing your humblebee x bumblebee.

bigpimpen22 said:
how do u make an humble bee
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A humblebee is a ghost bumblebee (pastel, spider, and ghost).
 
karlsboa said:
What is a lethal spider
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A black widow! :rofl:

It's a homozygous spider gene and the snake is believed to not survive because of the duplicate gene. Some believe it, some don't.

Has anyone ever seen a spider or pinstripe produce all visuals when bred to norm? Over several seasons? I've never seen such but I believe they would pull a gorgeous penny.
 
Someone on here (FC's BP Forum) hatched out ALMOST all pins or spiders (seems like they were pins) last season. I don't think EVERY snake was a pin or spider so it may have just been great odds.
 
Is the humble be a female or a male iether way id get a different morph such as pin or lemon blast hets or somethign to breed into the humble. better combos more options and not spider x spider. just my opinion
 
id get a pastel lesser or pastel butter het for that girl or somethign on those lines as bee x humble just gives you killerbee hypos way more options out there to limit yourself tot hat.
 
Focal X said:
A black widow! :rofl:

It's a homozygous spider gene and the snake is believed to not survive because of the duplicate gene. Some believe it, some don't.

Has anyone ever seen a spider or pinstripe produce all visuals when bred to norm? Over several seasons? I've never seen such but I believe they would pull a gorgeous penny.
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Supposedly BHB has a "super" Pinstripe, but I've not ever called them up and asked myself so can't validate that claim :rofl: so don't quote me on that. :)

Technically it should be possible for any Dominant mutation to have a "super" that just doesn't look any different. No one cares to produce these animals though because you'd have to raise it up and breed it just to see if it is indeed a Super Spider or what have you. Lot of time and effort for something to end up not being a super. It would be cool to have one in your collection though.
 
if you get a pastel butter ghost or even a butter ghost to breed to that humble you could make these
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My goal is to make as many humble bees and super humble bees as possible over the next few years and keep all of them. I will sell everything else and use that money to buy other triple gene Snakes with variety. In 6 years I will be producing a ton of 3 and 4 gene Snakes of all kinds. I am new to balls (got first one 3 weeks ago) please give input on my business approach.
 
its actually a very smart idea what i would do tho is make a killerbee ghost male and then go buy a bunch of female morphs het ghost or visual ghost co doms to breed to a killerbee ghost. then youd be set on makin all kinda cool stuff
 
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