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Bad Guy Buyer Beware Keith Cantore AKA Albinocollector

Keith, whether readers on the BOI feel someone is telling the truth or lying is up to them to decide. They can decide on the information provided, or how well they know those who vouch for one party or the other, or in any number of ways.
I certainly think that it makes good sense to be careful and ask a lot of questions if one sees a seller with a string of negative reviews from different people.

Very True !! I however dont go by the BOI or trader ratings I have never looked ta them until I was put on them I have a Great sense of judgement and can hear BS in a person's voice or lies over the phone I guess I just go by old fashion sense !! I have to go get things done today I will reply if JOHN decides to come back into this all of us going back and fourth is useless like you all said let him Bring the evidence then it will be worth while wasting any of are time !!. have a good day everyone !!
 
Very True !! I however dont go by the BOI or trader ratings I have never looked ta them until I was put on them I have a Great sense of judgement and can hear BS in a person's voice or lies over the phone I guess I just go by old fashion sense !!
You're clearly a legend in your own mind. :rolleyes: It's odd that, despite the fact that you can't seem to recall if/when the sale actually occurred, you're sure that you remember the buyer calling to express his satisfaction with his purchase. The OP definitely hasn't done much to make a good showing for himself; but if you continue with this feeble and nonsensical maundering and legal posturing, he may not even have to. Wouldn't be the first time that both sides of a BOI thread turned out to be duds; fairly sure it won't be the last time, either. Gotta love how some people react when they're tossed a bit of rope. I know, I know. It's all a conspiracy. :shootfoot
 
You're clearly a legend in your own mind. :rolleyes: It's odd that, despite the fact that you can't seem to recall if/when the sale actually occurred, you're sure that you remember the buyer calling to express his satisfaction with his purchase. The OP definitely hasn't done much to make a good showing for himself; but if you continue with this feeble and nonsensical maundering and legal posturing, he may not even have to. Wouldn't be the first time that both sides of a BOI thread turned out to be duds; fairly sure it won't be the last time, either. Gotta love how some people react when they're tossed a bit of rope. I know, I know. It's all a conspiracy. :shootfoot

TRUST me if you talk to this Man on the phone youd Clearly remember his Voice and way he talks !!! Hes Very easy to remember and yes I dont know the exact date of the sale I know I sold him 1 within the last 3 to 4 months but when I checked I couldnt find anything I had to show what day it was I will have to check with shiping labels as I know I havnt sent more then 2 packages to his state in the last year he lives in Massachussettes . and No I dont feel Like Im some legand maybe you do thanks though but this is not for random people to start argueing over nothing or something your not invlolved in have a nice day !! ALso the Buyer John couldnt even give Me a day when he bought it its been so long this was just a Unneeded Hassle .
 
I don't want to get involved in this thread really.

But I will post my experiences with Keith.


I've done numerous deals with Keith and export for him on a fairly regular basis.

There's never been an issue on my end.

Cheers!
 
Keith, maybe you should sue yourself for libel. The only damage you're getting from this thread is coming from you. Do yourself a favor and stop posting unless John provides some information which I don't really think he's going to do.
 
Getting all defensive over a sale that clearly had some issues on both sides does NOT HELP YOUR CAUSE! LET IT GO ALREADY AND GIVE JOHN A NEW AND HEALTHY TURTLE.
 
Getting all defensive over a sale that clearly had some issues on both sides does NOT HELP YOUR CAUSE! LET IT GO ALREADY AND GIVE JOHN A NEW AND HEALTHY TURTLE maybe you should save your 2cents since that gets you no where these days !! and laos makes no sense for you to comment when your clearly not capable of understanding a issue if you think with no evidence I should replace the turtle Do America a Favor and dont ever serve as a Jurror in a court of law !!
 
Getting all defensive over a sale that clearly had some issues on both sides does NOT HELP YOUR CAUSE! LET IT GO ALREADY AND GIVE JOHN A NEW AND HEALTHY TURTLE.

This decision is up to Keith but I would not fold so quickly without documented proof from John. This means photos, emails, IM logs, vet bills, etc. Two months, if that is indeed the correct time frame, is too long to go by a buyer's word that something went wrong and it is the seller's fault.

On the other hand I never heard of a seller operating without a ToS and Keith kind of scoffed at that, too.

As stated previously, best thing to do is wait for John's proof or lack thereof and operate from there.
 
This was a warning to others

Keith, lets start from the being. I saw your add on this forum for baby hypo snapping turtles. I contacted you by phone. I discussed the purchase with you about one baby turtle. You stated the turtle was $200.00 plus $50.00 for shipping. I said ok let me think about it. I called you back the next day. I wanted the turtle and would mail you a money order, please call me when you get the check I gave you my home phone number. One week went by and I called you. You then stated you did not even remember talking to me and stated I have not been home in four days. I asked you again to call me if you recieved the check. I waited three days called you back, you said i got the check. I then asked you when you could ship it. you stated in a few days. All these conversations with you were brief answers, from you mostly yep. At this point I did a BOI on you on this forum. Which I should have done on you from the beginng, my costly mistake. And as you just stated every thing on this thread is recorded. My research showed that you had other bad guy complaints from other buyers or traders on this forum you have a (trader rating; -2) and you are in the HALL OF SHAME and also learned you were on your way to prison. Not that there is anythiing wrong with that. Now back to the facts. I had to call you again the next week. You stated you were going to ship out tomorrow or tuesday. I then asked you if you could send me a nice turtle you said don't worry I will send you out a nice one. On tuesday nite I had to call you at 10;30 pm my time to ask if it was being shipped. You stated you will have it by 10;30 am. you then sent me a e-mail asking me if it was a pet or for research. I e-mailed you back saying it was for a breeding program. I believe you did that to cover your self on the Federal 4 inch rule for baby turtles being sold. I then e-mailed back asking for a tracking number I never heard from you again until I called you last nite. Hide my phone number hope you got a record of my e-mails I do with my home phone number right in it. The reason I never called you when I recieved the sick turtle because I would get one of your YEP answers. When I called you last nite I explained that I was treating the turtle, had taken it to the vet, I then asked if you would send me an other turtle and I would ship this back so you could look at, you then stated I do not want that back here and I don't even know you got it from me. I then stated someone thats been in this hobby so look would know a sick animal. Yes you did offer to send me an other turle for $150. So I am thinking $400 out plus $150 for a snapping turtle. SOMETHING IS NOT WRIGHT HERE. I then stated to you no thanks I have learned my lession I'll take the LOSS. Good-nite. By the way I am a very honest and hardworking person. This is a hobby I love I have kept and raised snapping turtles for over 52 years. Keith I believe I told you that. The reason I posted the bad guy tread. and I have been a member on this forum for 7 plus years with out one single problem, till this. I just want to make sure this does not happen to others. We all work hard for our money. And for most of us it is a hobby. Not a scam. Keith if you would like to sue me, ok I will have all the records (phone, e-mails and paper work vet bill your shipping container and box) what ever it takes. To me it would be worth it. Thanks
 
The reason I never called you when I recieved the sick turtle because I would get one of your YEP answers. When I called you last nite I explained that I was treating the turtle, had taken it to the vet, I then asked if you would send me an other turtle and I would ship this back so you could look at, you then stated I do not want that back here and I don't even know you got it from me.

Could you please say how long ago your purchase was, and just scan and post the vet report?
 
Keith, lets start from the being. I saw your add on this forum for baby hypo snapping turtles. I contacted you by phone. I discussed the purchase with you about one baby turtle. You stated the turtle was $200.00 plus $50.00 for shipping. I said ok let me think about it. I called you back the next day. I wanted the turtle and would mail you a money order, please call me when you get the check I gave you my home phone number. One week went by and I called you. You then stated you did not even remember talking to me and stated I have not been home in four days. I asked you again to call me if you recieved the check. I waited three days called you back, you said i got the check. I then asked you when you could ship it. you stated in a few days. All these conversations with you were brief answers, from you mostly yep. At this point I did a BOI on you on this forum. Which I should have done on you from the beginng, my costly mistake. And as you just stated every thing on this thread is recorded. My research showed that you had other bad guy complaints from other buyers or traders on this forum you have a (trader rating; -2) and you are in the HALL OF SHAME and also learned you were on your way to prison. Not that there is anythiing wrong with that. Now back to the facts. I had to call you again the next week. You stated you were going to ship out tomorrow or tuesday. I then asked you if you could send me a nice turtle you said don't worry I will send you out a nice one. On tuesday nite I had to call you at 10;30 pm my time to ask if it was being shipped. You stated you will have it by 10;30 am. you then sent me a e-mail asking me if it was a pet or for research. I e-mailed you back saying it was for a breeding program. I believe you did that to cover your self on the Federal 4 inch rule for baby turtles being sold. I then e-mailed back asking for a tracking number I never heard from you again until I called you last nite. Hide my phone number hope you got a record of my e-mails I do with my home phone number right in it. The reason I never called you when I recieved the sick turtle because I would get one of your YEP answers. When I called you last nite I explained that I was treating the turtle, had taken it to the vet, I then asked if you would send me an other turtle and I would ship this back so you could look at, you then stated I do not want that back here and I don't even know you got it from me. I then stated someone thats been in this hobby so look would know a sick animal. Yes you did offer to send me an other turle for $150. So I am thinking $400 out plus $150 for a snapping turtle. SOMETHING IS NOT WRIGHT HERE. I then stated to you no thanks I have learned my lession I'll take the LOSS. Good-nite. By the way I am a very honest and hardworking person. This is a hobby I love I have kept and raised snapping turtles for over 52 years. Keith I believe I told you that. The reason I posted the bad guy tread. and I have been a member on this forum for 7 plus years with out one single problem, till this. I just want to make sure this does not happen to others. We all work hard for our money. And for most of us it is a hobby. Not a scam. Keith if you would like to sue me, ok I will have all the records (phone, e-mails and paper work vet bill your shipping container and box) what ever it takes. To me it would be worth it. Thanks

LETS GET THIS strait Maybe you did send yoru Number in email I dont recall that but you always called Private number so I couldnt contact you wich was odd . and You sending a money order I to recall now that is not my problem you sent it and it takes howveer long your acting as if I was trying to not send you your turtle now Nice try !!! and lets get back to teh SUBJECT here WHY HAVE you now posted this and called me last night to state your turtle was sick ??? cause if youd like I can go to MY bank and get the records of when a 250 money order was deposited !! I know it wasnt even this month like you claimed on the phone last night . I did not Send you a SOFT MOOSHY shelled Snapper like your Claiming and you are in Fact pissed off at Me cause Im not a sucker who just says Oh ill eat it and send a new 1 like you tried getting ME to do . IM sorry if you wouldve told me within a reasonable time like 3 days or even a Week I still wouldve worked something out saying you pay shiping and Ill replace it thats typically what I would do wich has happend maybe 5 times in my life . BUT YOU DID NOT DO THAT and still havnt posted PROOF when you recieved this turtle verses this claim now YOU HAVE THE BOX I SENT TO YOU YOU TOLD ME LAST NIGHT POST THAT TRACKING NUMBER BUDDY LETS GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS RIGHT NOW !! FELLOW VIEWERS if IM wrong here even on the date of that shipment if it was in 1 Month period from last night I will ship you a new turtle Free of Charge BUT I dont recall it even being in 1 month from now !! HOLD ON FACTS ARE here I thought to check the shiping labels Yo recieved this turtle OCT 9th !!! YOU HAVE To be kidding Me . I know this is you only MA one I have john 234 ball ardvale st wilmington MA phone on package 781 588 5718 so yes I mustve at one point had your number But ANYONE READING thsi in REPTILE/Animal trades knows you cannot call a person OVER 2 months and 5 days later and just EXPECT a refund on a problem that did not EXSIST !!!!!!!!! NOW HERE PEOPLE READING if you know Common knowledge of Turtles a Hatchling SNAPPING TURTLE if you have it in your possesion and its shell is MOOSHY SOFT sick and dieing like John claimed last night on Phone its dead in 3 days if your lucky a week longest NOT 2 Months 5 days later and its still Clinging on for life it doesnt happen thats Metabolic Bone disease is what your turtle caught in your care it happens to the best of us with collectors and breeders John you may not be at fault for it catching that but it did not have that when I shiped you that turtle !! that turtle was healthy as all the ones I had where any B GRADES where shiped over seas right away at discount !!! SORRY for your loss I offered to help you and you declined . I cannot be responsible for this
 
Could you please say how long ago your purchase was, and just scan and post the vet report?

I just pulled out the tracking numbers and the shipment was OCT 9th !! over 2 months and 5 days ago !! His turtle if in fact was sick like hes trying to claim would not have made it 2 months to still be alive today to ship back to Me !! SNAPPERS with soft shells from sickness are dead in Days and any Exporters or customers I sell to would vouch that I clearly tell people if I have a sick turtle I set it aside and treat them and wont ship a Sick animal and any B GRADES are shiped over seas usually to my same guy every year heavily discounted . 2 months 5 days No proof and a story does not cut it and is not fair . if thats the case we could all take dead and call are suppliers and say hey this died it was sick months ago when you sent it But I just kept it a secret cause I wanted to be a great guy and save it !! YEA RIGHT .
 
Keith, this is America where my TWO CENTS can and have been heard! John, your post has done it's job. Thanks for the heads up on this guy!!!

NO problem Buddy I can see you would possibly be a buyer just like John if you wouldve waited for EVIDENCE you would now see whos lieing !! Thanks though His purchase was shiped OCT 9th if that gives you and reasonable insight on this !!! have a nice day I dont mean to come off as a jerk but when you talk the way you do with Guilt towards me as if you know Im a bad guy Expect every bit of it right back !!
 
I just pulled out the tracking numbers and the shipment was OCT 9th

Keith could you actually post the tracking numbers please.
John, if you in fact got the turtle two months ago and did not call and notify Keith until yesterday, it is hard to see how Keith could be responsible and deserve a Bad Guy post even if his posts are a bit over the top at times.
 
Do you have a link for the ad or has it been removed?

I removed the ads a while back !! Johns turtle was shiped OCT 5th wich short story would have never lived till today had it been sick and had a MOOSHY shell like he claimed last night over phone !!. I didnt do this Man wrong thats why He has no proof just a loss on his end that he is not willing to accept as his responsibilty and tried getting a freebee off me 2 months and 5 days later
 
Keith could you actually post the tracking numbers please.
John, if you in fact got the turtle two months ago and did not call and notify Keith until yesterday, it is hard to see how Keith could be responsible and deserve a Bad Guy post even if his posts are a bit over the top at times.

YES let me look it up again Thanks for your Fair judgement about time sees it for what it is any Vet would also back my story of this turtle not surviving 2 months with metaboblic bone disease therefore proves I sent him a HEALTHY TURTLE that was in fact sick later in life after his care !! TRACKING # is 1081454802 thats through UPS I think you have to search under shipnex.com since its a 3rd party shipper of UPS
 
TRACKING # is 1081454802 thats through UPS I think you have to search under shipnex.com since its a 3rd party shipper of UPS

I am not going to search, you are the seller. Please provide valid tracking information and show the actual tracking.
 
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