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Hey folks,

Can any recommend a site where I can get a really cool 30gal glass cage/aquarium for a decent price. My local pet store selling them for $60 or so..maybe a little steep? On the topic, I was informed that a 30gal has the same size base as a 20gal, only it's higher and recommended I get a 40gal breeder? Is this correct?

I'm buying a baby BP and think a 40gal may be overkill?

Thanks as always for the great forum..reall been awesome! And if I may..been in contact with Tom from Zoological Supply about his BPs..what a good guy, really took the time out to help me with my q's!! Nice going Tom!
 
Why not starting with a 10 galon from Walmart ($10)? In it you will be able to house your python for almost a year. You don't want to be messing around shipping a 30 galon aquarium.

Regards.
 
Suppose that makes sense..was hoping not to have to buy two tanks and have to think about changing everything in a years time..surely that stresses your snake?

Also I was led to believe the smaller tanks are not ideal in that you cant really establish the temp gradient? I guess in that case you'd just be looking to establish a good ambient temperature around 85F?
 
It will depend on the temperature of the room. If the air temperature is at 70, you can have your warmer spot using a "Cobra-type" heat mat. That's enough for the needs of your baby ball.
 
Going too big (enclosure) can be stressful for baby BPs, too. I have a group of '05s - a mix of CB and CH - thriving in sterilite boxes. They aren't the prettiest things out there, but they are the most cost effective. They are easily heated with a UTH (use a rheostat or thermostat), hold humidity well, and afford a little extra security since they are not transparent. And at under $3 for the 12qt size, it is hard to go wrong. that way you can save your pennies for a nice cage when the snake gets big enough.
 
Hey Harald, where'd you get your sterilite boxes..most that I've seen are transparent.
 
I've also seen people using Rubbermaid tubs..similar thing. How do you make sure your ball cant push the lid off?

Imagine you just drill a bucket-load of holes into the lid to ensure enough ventilation?
 
Some are snap-lid but even those are not escape proof, particularly as the python grows in size and strength. The best is to build a mini-rack out of melamine (they will cut the pieces for you at Menards or similar, and you can nail them or screw them together) and insert the Rubbermaid as a drawer that fits snuggly (without the lid). You can always affix the heat pad towards the back wall of the drawer (not belly heat though). The beauty is that as Harald states it's very inexpensive. You can have even two drawers, remove one and put the python in the other while you thoroughly wash and clean the first one for the next exchange. It might not be attractive but it's functional, and at the same time gives the python that sense of security because he is in a dark spot away from all the movements that surrounds him. What's appealing to our eyes might not be the best to keep a reptile stress-free.

Regards.
 
I hear you, sigh, I just like the idea of my snake being a visible addition to my room, but yes, maybe you're right
 
Walmart, Target, wherever. Actually, the ones I have now are less opaque than some I have had in the past, but they aren't as clear as glass or acrylic...I suppose saying that are not transparent was not the best choice of phrasing. Dan is correct - don't trust the snap on lids to keep the snake in...there are several options; depending on what size box, how many snakes, and what you have around the house - but a close fitting shelf (picture just a single opening of a rack) can be easily added to a desk, dresser, or existing shelf. This keeps it secure, and even looks nice
 
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I hear you, sigh, I just like the idea of my snake being a visible addition to my room, but yes, maybe you're right
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There's plenty of time for that after it grows a bit...hence my comment about saving your money for the nice cage later.
A lot of baby/small BPs are pretty sensitive to our world...and even the smallest things can throw them off. That is one of the reasons that so many people recommend this type of housing for them
 
Can any recommend a site where I can get a really cool 30gal glass cage/aquarium for a decent price.
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For the record I dislike aquariums as snake cages as a general rule. They don't hold heat very well, are heavy and harder to clean etc. That being said, they are functional and can be made to look nice. They're also a viable alternative to those who aren't able to build a nice enclosure or afford the expensive commercially produced plastic cages.

For a glass snake cage, my preference is something called a Critter Cage I do believe. They are an aquarium type cage, but aren't made to be filled with water. They have a sliding/locking screen top as well that are very escape proof.
They are more expensive than a regular fish aquarium, but the snap on screen tops for those are notorious for being insecure.
I have a 40 gallon breeder model that I have used for various things over the years, currently housing gerbils, I think I paid $45 for it. I also have quite a few of the 10 gallon size that I house small rattlers and one tarantula in. I prefer top opening cages for my hots and I trust the security of those cages enough to keep rattlers in them with no worries.
The 10 gallon ones cost $25. That's more than twice the cost of a regular 10 gallon aquarium, but I'd never consider putting a rattler in a cage with one of those crappy snap on lids.
 
All said, what do you do when your snakes reach 4 foot + then, you're still keeping them in plastic tubs? Do you get rubbermaids/sterilite tubs that big?
 
No, but remember, it depends on how many snakes you keep and how often you have to clean. Right now I have 60+ ball pythons plus boas, hondurans, turtles, and a blood python. Time is of the esence! A rule of thumb that has been used is that a tub should be large enough for a snake to stretch in at least an "L" position once in it.
 
I'll only be having this one...for now ;) So I dont need to worry about having a big rack setup/easy maintainance. So how about keeping my baby BP in a 30 quart tub (too big), and then if required in a couple of years move her to a bigger tub/aquarium?

Somehow, the more I think of it, using a tub may be much more convenient than an aquarium!
 
A 30 quart tub is big but if you provide hide spots he will do just fine. A disadvantage of large enclosures is that it is more difficult to maintain the right temperature/moisture and it's also not as easy for the snake to catch the prey in the event you end up needing to feed him live prey.

regards.
 
All said, what do you do when your snakes reach 4 foot + then, you're still keeping them in plastic tubs? Do you get rubbermaids/sterilite tubs that big?
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I have Iris and Gracious Living tubs that are 36 inches long to house big adult females.
For a single snake though I'd be housing it in one of my 3x2x18 wooden cages, but an aquarium will suffice.
For me there's really no reason to keep a single pet snake in a plastic box, you'll enjoy your snake more if it's in a nice display cage as an adult and a good looking cage can even add to the appearance of the room it's in.
Racks with plastic tubs are really for breeders who are maintaining large numbers of snakes. In reality though they are not nice looking and are meant entirely for effeciency which isn't a factor when one only keeps one or two snakes.
Use a tub for him while he's small, it will privide security and keep from buying multiple cages, but I think you'll be much more please with a nice cage setup that you can show off when he's grown.
 
I agree with Clay. If this is going to be just your pet snake you can house it in a larger enclosure. If you do though remember that the more things you put in there to please the eye, the more you will have to clean.
 
Thanks folks, what would you say is an ideal size to shift my critter from her tub to an aquarium?
 
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