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Bad Guy Calientedragons - Rankin Dragons

.[/QUOTE]You don't have a paypal account because they closed it!

I will only ask you this one time, stop sending my personal information out in your "mass" emails. Thank you.[/QUOTE]


I have NEVER had a paypal account. That is a lie.

The email I am sending out has been posted here. NONE of your "personal" info is in it. I don't know anything about you, could care less.


Stop with the lies.
 
spokanelizardlady said:
Mistyck- I refer to Jeane as Jeane most of the time in business dealings. Rarely in business do I refer to her as mom. She sent the first email to caliente, then told me she found some rankins she wanted. I initiated the sale and did ALL the follow through because I bought them for her.

The dragonlady99212 account has been in existance LONG before we opened our store front. No one looses business by making changes. We have customers who still only know the email address from 8 years ago.

Online deals are sometimes 24hrs a day, depends on the time zone or country it is. Jeane works a swing shift job, I work a 10-7. Who ever is available answers emails to insure timely replies.

lastly, we DO NOT use paypal. We have our own credit card processing here on site, we have no real need for paypal or their overpriced 3% charges.
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With the case of only one email account then you would think that whoever was actually sending the email at the time would sign their name at the bottom. Every one of those emails is signed Thanks, Jeane not Thanks, Wendy. So why exactly would you be signing emails using her name? Sure the email account itself may be in her name but each one has been signed at the bottom as Jeane. I'd say that's highly misleading and could easily be construed as lying.
 
No one is "signing" anything personally. When you open to compose, or reply the auto signature is there - that one happens to say thanks, jeane Reptile Addictions
11518 East Sprague Ave Spokane, Wa 99206 (509)927-3008. If you send an email to [email protected] it says Thanks, Wendy Reptile Addictions 11518 East Sprague Ave Spokane, Wa 99206 (509)927-3008. It has been that way for years. I guess in hindsite we should change it in the near future.


The bottom line is YOU ARE IN POSESSION OF THE ANIMALS AND THE $$$, THAT IS FRAUD. Making you Gary and Heidi, a criminal too :)

Tommorrow I will contact the BBB.
 
OK, that's enough. The next one of the the major participants in this thread who reports the other to try to drag US into the middle of your argument will be banned from this site. We are NOT your parents or guardians. We just try to maintain the peace here where appropriate. We will NOT come to the aid of either of you to side with you against the other. Using the REPORT A POST function doesn't predispose anyone here to taking anyone's side in an argument. Especially when it is obviously being used to try to initiate some retaliatory response against the other party using US as the mechanism. :NoNo:
 
I only reported Jgalss38 for the continued name calling that you asked to stop. And, I reported Gary for using Heidis account. I have not abused the report button, both are violations of TOS.

I do not need anyone to take my side or come to my assistance:) I'm a big girl.

Sorry if people are wasting your time and making your work harder. Have a good night.
 
Cut and dry just refund the money that she is owed not what everybody thinks she is owed. If you have both dragons them refund the cost of both the dragons. Wendy can eat the shipping charges and I'm sure she wouldn't mind doing so just to put a stop to this. I know if it was me I would be furious about not getting my money back but I don't have a "dirty" past for eveyone to beat me up over either and side track the matter at hand. I hate to take sides but if I was in either ones shoes I would have to make the choice to pay the money back. Even if I said not to send them back, I couldn't sleep at night knowing that I stole from someone. I don't want anyone to think I am trying to bash caliente dragons, I'm just trying to keep things fair. I sure hope this comes to an end soon. :yesnod:
 
To: "Jeane Best" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, July 18, 2009, 10:22 PM
Iwill refund you money minus my shipping cost.. You never asked where I imported them, They were imported through Josh of Phantom Dragon and his connections..
Please disclose where you posted on the boards so I can read them..

Thanks,
Heidi
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Does she deserve it?...No. The problem is that you agreed to it. No matter how reprehensible she is and how miserably she acts, you agreed to it. I doubt anyone is lining up to do business with her after this circus but your anger is clouding your judgement.

If you don't do as you agreed, you are not acting in an honest manner. That brings you down to the level of business she is known for.

Refund the actual purchase price and wipe Ms. Childs off of your shoes for good. She is definitely not the type you want as a permanent part of your online life
 
So Wendy, you had a boyfriend that turned out to be a white supremacist. REALLY? So you just decided that you wanted to do the nasty with some old fart a year away from death? You didn't know that he was the leader of the aryan nations at the time? Please.

In spite of the fact that Wendy is a terrible lying felon and, in my opinion most assuredly worse, a racist, the fact is that this transaction should be based upon her actions with the seller. She bought some animals that she was unhappy with. A refund was initially offered. The animals have been returned but no money has been refunded.

Just refund the money, so that we ALL can stop reading this drivel.

While we're on the subject, it is not the buyer's responsibility to PROVE that the rankin's are not unrelated to anything in the US. Since you, the seller, are making that claim, it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Again, unless you can prove that they are unrelated, other than the fact that you got them from a European contact, your advertising is inaccurate and should be changed.
 
calientedragons said:
Ok folks time to put this to an end. .............

:shootfoot


Gary Salerno



Gary and Heidi Salerno

Caliente Dragons
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It's hard to believe that I'm all wrapped up in this now. I can't stop checking this thread! I also gotta give props to the OP for the constant imaginitive tag changing.

But listen--Gary--as a husband and father myself--I understand that you thought you were doing the right thing by interceding in this transaction with the OP and your wife.

Your wife initiated the transaction and when the OP started "playing hardball", you came in to rescue your damsel in distress. Is that because you think women can't handle business or just your wife?

Stop typing and refund the money.

At this point the transaction is MOOT. (not mute.)

Your word is what's on the line here. (And really, stop typing. Your "real-world" comparisons were stupid.)
 
C'mon Brian, a restocking charge...how would you feel paying a charge like this.
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Well, evidently there is at least one reptile vendor who feels completely justified in charging a restock fee, even if the paid-for animal has not even left their stock:
"If you pay and later change your mind and do not purchase a reptile, a 30% restocking fee will be charged. Shipping fees are NOT refundable."

River City Reps/Reptile Addictions Terms of Service page

Seeing that fair is fair after all, a refund minus a 30% restocking fee and shipping charges is certainly in order.
 
What in the world is this restocking crap. What about the fact that he can't prove his advertised genetic quality? If you bought an animal that was het for something and then he didn't send you the documentation what would you do? If then, after asking for the doc., he said that he can't provide the proof genetics then what do you do? Well if it was me I would want my money back and would not pay a restocking fee. It is there fault they advertised something they couldn't prove they had. Plain and simple she sent them back so the money should be sent back minus the shipping. It's not that hard to figure out what to do. But it's not up to me, it's up to Gary and Heidi and they have a good business sense and I'm sure they will figure out the best way to handle this.
 
It is there fault they advertised something they couldn't prove they had. Plain and simple she sent them back so the money should be sent back minus the shipping.
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I don't agree. If they cannot prove the genetics of something they have advertised, and the genetics are important, then should refund all they money including the shipping charges.

You don't do the right thing for the other party, you do it for yourself.
 
"I don't agree. If they cannot prove the genetics of something they have advertised, and the genetics are important, then should refund all they money including the shipping charges.

You don't do the right thing for the other party, you do it for yourself."



That will work too Kevin.
 
LauraB said:
Well, evidently there is at least one reptile vendor who feels completely justified in charging a restock fee, even if the paid-for animal has not even left their stock:
"If you pay and later change your mind and do not purchase a reptile, a 30% restocking fee will be charged. Shipping fees are NOT refundable."

River City Reps/Reptile Addictions Terms of Service page

Seeing that fair is fair after all, a refund minus a 30% restocking fee and shipping charges is certainly in order.
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Does this reasoning apply if the seller changes their terms after the sale to suit each individual sale?
 
Does this reasoning apply if the seller changes their terms after the sale to suit each individual sale?
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I wouldn't think so. My only point was that the question was raised previously about a restocking fee and others thought it ludicrous. Why then should a restocking fee be charged if stock has not even left the possession of a seller (as stated in RiverCity Reps/Reptile Addictions TOS)?
 
Jeanes TOS and website have been the same for years, I can't say I really pay much attention to it, I crashed it about a year ago and most of the info is gone.It should just be taken down all together. All our ads now for the last year refer buyers to www.reptileaddictions.com. We offer live arrival and a 60 day heath guarantee.

I asked Jeane and she verified that she has NEVER chargd anyone a restocking fee of any kind.

The bottom line is calientes website DID NOT have any of the above in their TOS, nor did I purchase these rankins from her shopping cart website. I purchased via kingsnake through email. I was never directed to a website to pay through and agree to any TOS.
 
I see that noone has cut and pasted the most important part of Jeanes website TOS

RETURN POLICY: Refunds/exchanges are made on a case-by-case basis at my discretion.

Please report any problems to me immediately, and I will make every effort to solve them with you.

No return will be considered after 14 days of purchase.
 
Also another important part of Jeanes selling practices, when she sells as breeder quality, she actually means it.

Your new baby dragon comes with a complete care sheet and vegtable chart. You will also recieve a birth certificate complete with: hatch date,parents, breeders info, and a mini family tree bloodline refrence. You will never have to worry about bloodline relations again!
 
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