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California trying to ban reptile shows?

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I received this e-mail today from Upscale reptiles here in Sacramento, CA
Am I reading it right??

CALIFORNIA BILL TO BAN SWAP MEETS,
FLEA MARKETS, OUTDOOR PUBLIC SALES
ARE BIRD, REPTILE, CAT SHOWS AND CONSUMER PET SHOWS BANNED?
ACT NOW!


The Issue.


Assembly Member Lieu introduced Assembly Bill AB 1122 which, as amended, would make it a crime
"to willfully sell, display, or offer for sale, or give away as part of a commercial transaction, a live animal on any street, highway, public right-of-way, commercial parking lot, or at any outdoor special sale, swap meet, flea market, parking lot sale, carnival, or boardwalk." The bill fails to define a swap meet or flea market and could inadvertently encompass bird shows, reptile shows, cat shows, and aquarium shows.

The Impact.

As drafted, it could be interpreted that this bill would ban reptile shows, bird shows, fish shows, dog and
cat shows, etc. that are sponsored events, normally housed within buildings and under supervision of an
organization specializing in promoting and hosting of such events for such types of animals. The poor
definition could also prohibit pet fairs such as the annual America's Family Pet Expo in Orange County,
pet industry trade shows, or other specialty shows that would not fall within the general perception of a swap meet or a flea market.


Recommended Action.

PIJAC recommends that everyone interested in supporting the ability of people to host, promote and participate in reptile shows, bird shows, fish shows, cat shows, dog shows, trade shows, consumer pet
shows, etc. where animals are displayed and/or sold and/or funds are raised to support the organization's goals and objectives, contact members of the California Assembly Appropriations Committee and point out the need for an exemption for such activities or clear definitions of a "swap meet" or a "flea market."


ACT TODAY - CALL AND EMAIL -- AB 1122 will be heard by the Assembly Appropriations
Committee tomorrow, Wednesday May 6, 2009, in Room 4202 at 9:00 a.m.
Members can be reached by contacting the members on the following page and explain why the bill needs
to be amended to clearly exempt such shows and the activities associated with those events.
May 5, 2009
(CA AB 1122)
 
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Thank you for taking a moment to review this email. We are concerned for the future of reptile shows in California if this bill passes in its current form.

We agree there needs to be regulation, but the definition in this bill are not clearly defined.
 
This is one that if written correctly I could see wholeheartedly supporting. But I have to agree that if it is not clearly defined that there is a difference between a reptile show and an outdoor flea market than it could be trouble.

We have an outdoor flea market not too far from here that I have seen BP's, burms, boas, etc. sitting cramped in aquariums outside in temps of 90+. That shouldn't happen.
 
They have a "Pet store" area at the local and biggest Swap meet in my area-Denio's Market.
There are usually reptiles, small mammals, and birds available.
 
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