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Alright, I have been thinking about getting into a species of colubrid to keep and breed. BUT, I have tried rats (and corns), kings, and bulls. All were a no go, they just didn't do much for me.

The species that I do currently breed are ball pythons, and this is my first year at having babies, I also am planning to breed rainbow boas once the few I have get up to size.

The species I have looked at were Hognose, House snakes, and False water cobras (yes I will be posting in the Other Snake Forum). If you can, please tell me the heat requirements, feeding, growth size, or any other information about the species that you think will be helpful with my decision. Also the amount of morphs (or localities) of each species will be helpful to. After I decide what I would like to go for, I will do extensive reading and research on the animal, so dont worry :D

Thanks to all of Fauna for their help, and any suggestions will be appreciated :thumbsup:
 
Hognose are the way to go. they have more morphs than house snakes, and more demand than false water cobra. They have great personalities, easy to feed, and have a higher dollar value than most of the colubrids. Plus there are few things more adorable than little hognose hatchlings! Only downside is that they eat their eggs so you gotta be quick in getting them out of the tub!

If you want a male Dotted African House snake I have one that you can have for the cost of shipping. I was going to get into them (found this one at a LPS) but now I'm all about hogs!!
 
Hmm that's not too bad, is there anything special when it comes to heating or humidity? (high, low stuff like that) and yea I have noticed that I can't ever find house snakes anywhere lol. Do hog noses musk at all? And I'll pm ya about that house snake :thumbsup:
 
ok, I did a quick search on hognoses and there are plenty of different morphs from the looks of it, but I only saw a slight problem. That would be money lol. Most of what I saw were near the 1000 dollar mark, which is great but kinda deters newer enthusiasts to the species. Are there any lower dollar morphs, not necessarily lower quality or lower end, but something that would be easier to get a hold of that aren't normals or hets?
 
Jessie, alot of people just getting into hoggs buy possible hets and go from there. PH can be had for not much more than a normal depending on where you get them. Lauren pretty much summed it up pretty well in describing them as well. The only thing left out is that they are so addicting once you get started with them. The little personalities are from one end of the spectrum to the other. I have transitioned my entire collection over to hognose now with the exception of one BP. I dont have any for sale but if you are looking for a good price on an albino, het, or possible het message me and I would be happy to point you to a few that have some affordable hoggs.
 
I would also agree that as far as colubrids go, Hognoses are the best...

I've kept a VERY wide variety of animals over the years, and have never found a colubrid species that I liked... Until I started keeping hogs...

They did not take long at all to surpass pretty much every other species I had ever kept as a favorite!

Morphs definitely CAN be expensive... but as Aaron suggested, starting out with possible hets/hets is definitely an inexpensive way to get into them... At this point even starting out with an albino male, 100% Het. albino female pair isn't terribly expensive...

If you ever do decide to get into them, feel free to shoot me a message, I can definitely help out, as I've been keeping/breeding them for years...
 
Awesome thanks! Yea I'm defiantly going to look into it! First I need to build a few more racks for my quearentine. For size references, would a six qt tub suffice for babies? And what size would be adequate for adults?
 
Depending on growth, a 6 quart can house a well started hatchling up to even a yearling. I use a sandwich sized container till about 20 grams, if they are feeding consistantly I move them up in container size. I use a 6 qt from 20 grams up to 70 - 80 grams or so. A 15 QT can house male adults and females subadults up to 150-200 grams. Larger females end up in a 28 Qt tub. I know many dont move up as quick as I do in container size, your mileage may very as well. Hognose do not require much space and actually do very well in less space for security.
 
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