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Hey everyone,
i have this female which i purchased as a Variable king.
However she was later returned to me after a trade because the person was told she was a Pueblan Milk.

What do you all think ?
Is she a thayeri king ?
Is she a pueblan milk ?
Is she a hybrid ?

Does anyone know of a way i can tell for sure? (a scale count of sorts ?)


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you/Charles Glaspie
 

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In my opinion, that is not a pueblan milk, not a pure one anyway. The black bands aren't wide enough.
It may well be a hybrid, or it could be a thayeri, they're so variable and I'm not particularly familiar with them.
Anything beyond it not being a pure pueblan is just speculation on my part.
 
Thankyou Clay.

Another possible hint may be...
She is really shy and "twitches" to make me go away.
Its like a tail twitch but she uses her whole body.
(She only does this upon initial interaction and stops after held for 2 seconds).

Is this indiciative of either species ?


Charles
 
Not 100% THAYERI

I have been breeding Thayeri for 13 years now and have seen all types of Thayeri from other top breedrs such as Bob Applegate and I know for a fact this snake is not 100% thayeri, the head is too wide to be pure thayeri and the bands look like it could be hybrid of some sort and shoudl be sold as one and not as a thayeri.


Andre McAlister
New Concept Reptiles
 
...but what type of hybrid could she be ?

Hello Andre
This is what i am looking to find out.(subject line)

Would you endeavor to guess what type of hybrid she could be ?
Whether i sell her or not,i still need to know what she is.

Here are a few more candidates i am looking at.

(New Mexican Milk Snake)
http://www.herp-pix.org/lampropeltis/celaenops.jpg

The animal pictured in the above link does greatly resemble mine.
However the one in the link below shows the same trapezoid shape to the white rings as mine and what appears to be the same shade of orange as well.

(Louisiana Milk Snake)
http://www.herp-pix.org/lampropeltis/amaura1.JPG

Thank you,
Charles Glaspie
 
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