Bad Guy catherine kimball scammer

[lillyorchid]

Here is proof. I just spent some time emailing her back and forth.....

Take it as you wish! Seems to me, she is still in to the money order scam but I am not going to find out if that is indeed true or not. Read from the bottom up!




from C.K. <[email protected]>
to Lilly Orchid <[email protected]>
date Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:14 PM
subject Re: Corn Snakes
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Hi, a friend of mine works for a reptile online shipping company, if in bulk with others he ships i get it cheaper lol.
i will let you know a shipping date when recieved. thanks so much
catherine kimball
9021 saint regis lane
port richey
fl 34668

From: Lilly Orchid <[email protected]>
To: C.K. <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:58:04 PM
Subject: Re: Corn Snakes
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I've bought snakes from breeders before so I know about having them shipped over night. What is your name and address, so I can send you a money order. Also are you sure about the shipping? I know it shouldn't be that much, but I feel the need to still ask. I am home every morning, so receiving the snake would be no problem. Do you know the sexes of them by chance? Figured I'd ask but if you aren't a snake person I can completely understand. I can send you a money order tomorrow and set up shipped later this week if that is okay by you?

Thanks so much
Lily

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM, C.K. <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, that sounds great.
I live in port richey, FL. 34668.
I am home all week so any time will be good to come and view them.
If you live too far to pick up, I will consider shipping for free but it will have to be through overnight delivery, so someone will have to be home the following morning when I ship.
I can except a money order which should be sent using delivery confirmation as proof and piece of mind that I recieved it. Delivery confirmation is only about 0.75 cents from the post office. Also, keep your money order reciept so you can look up tracking online.
Thank you for your interest

From: Lilly Orchid <[email protected]>
To: C.K. <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:41:43 PM
Subject: Re: Corn Snakes

Oh I see, gotcha! I am most definitely interested in giving one of your corns a good home. When would be a good time to stop by and check them out? Any time during the week is fine by me, I work from home so I can come and go as I please. Also where are you located at?


Lily

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:38 PM, C.K. <[email protected]> wrote:

well, they was my husbands and we separated, he didnt take them with him when he moved up north and now im stuck. i am a doggie person, not a snake lover lol. as long as they go to homes that are good, thats fine with me. i think the corn snakes are miami morphs, not sure though, i wish i knew more lol.

From: Lilly Orchid <[email protected]>
To: C.K. <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:34:27 PM
Subject: Re: Corn Snakes

Could you please tell me more about the corn snakes. Are they normals or morphs? Do you have pictures of them? Also $20.00 for an albino ball python? That is cheap, I will let my one friend who keeps ball pythons know about you!



On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM, C.K. <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, I have 2 albino ball pythons left, 5 regular ball pythons, and 3 corn snakes. The ball pythons are $20.00 each and the corn snakes are $15.00 each. If getting more than one, I can give you a discount on how many you would like. Thank you for your interest.


From: Lilly Orchid <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:28:42 PM
Subject: Corn Snakes

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html


Hi there,

I am interesting in adopting one of your corn snakes. Do you have more then one, or just the one that is pictured? Please let me know!

Thanks


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[chamgirl99471]

Interesting... I'll have to ask her if I can stop by on my way down to Tampa... I drive right through that area and if I can get an Albino Ball for $20 I'm all over it.. LOL! I e-mailed about the albino balls and she hasn't responded yet so we'll see

 

[Iraqvet]

Wow ....Its not even like her prices are cheap..They are so cheap it sounds like she needs the money right now..Sounds like someone needs a quick fix really soon...The sad thing is,is that were probably people who didnt know better and are probably sending her money right now...

 

[chamgirl99471]

Lily... can I say that you gave me her E-mail address as the "friend"? I'll see if I can get her to agree to meet me on Sat Morning while on my way down south.

 

[chamgirl99471]

Here's our communication so far... I'm waiting for her to confirm that I can pick them up.. I sent her another E-mail but I don't know how to get headers copied from my AOL E-mail


Hi, yes the 20.00 includes the albino's. I have 7 left including the 2 albinos. I will take $95.00 for all 7.They were my husbands snakes before we separated, so as long as they get a good home, thats all that matters really.
Hi, I live in port richey, FL. 34668.
I am home all week so any time will be good to come and view them.
If you live too far to pick up, I will consider shipping for free but it will have to be through overnight delivery, so someone will have to be home the following morning when I ship.
I can except a money order which should be sent using delivery confirmation as proof and piece of mind that I recieved it. Delivery confirmation is only about 0.75 cents from the post office. Also, keep your money order reciept so you can look up tracking online.
Thank you for your interest.





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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 8:49:42 PM
Subject: Re: CORN SNAKES AND BALL PYTHONS


What would you take for all of the ball pythons... does the $20 include the albinos??? If so.. I would definately be interested in them all. Where are you located and do you ship?

Thanks
Cathy



Hi, I have 2 albino ball pythons left, 5 regular ball pythons, and 3 corn snakes. The ball pythons are $20.00 each and the corn snakes are $15.00 each. If getting more than one, I can give you a discount on how many you would like. Thank you for your interest.






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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:59:13 PM
Subject: CORN SNAKES AND BALL PYTHONS

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html



Interested in your albino ball pythons... what is the rehoming fee?
Thanks
Cathy


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[crotalusadamanteus]

LOL Notice how identical the two emails are? Almost like she has some responces made up ready to copy and paste.

 

[Southern Wolf]

they are exactly identical. That caught my attention right off the bat. Bet its saved as a word document.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

She felt the need to say "Hi" twice in post 165.

HA HA HA

 

[chamgirl99471]

Kevin, I wouldn't doubt that and I'm still waiting for a response to me coming there to pick the animals up Hmmm... wonder why?

 

[lillyorchid]

Lily... can I say that you gave me her E-mail address as the "friend"? I'll see if I can get her to agree to meet me on Sat Morning while on my way down south.

Go for it, I just wanted to see what she would say when emailed. I am not emailing her anymore, so feel free to do what you please. I hope no one is falling for her scams. :\

 

[chamgirl99471]

She responded to the second E-mail I sent stating that I would be down there at a certain time and here's the response

Um, not sure about the time. let me contact you tomorrow sometime and figure out a convenient time o.k. thanks




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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 9:58:24 PM
Subject: Re: CORN SNAKES AND BALL PYTHONS


Just had a conversation with my Fiance... we will be leaving High Springs around 9AM so that should put us in Port Richie around 11 - 11:30. If you are available for Pick Up anytime in there let me know. If not... I will be staying with my mom in Lutz and don't mind making a drive to get them.

Thanks
Cathy

 

[jtupper]

Wow! I just read this entire thread. One thing I don't think I saw anyone else mention is the idea that Catherine and Amanda are the same person and are aliases. But are people really falling for $20 ball pythons anyway? I mean come on...that's just, well too good to be true.

I feel sorry for those of you that got taken regarding the torts. As she made it sound like she was just rehoming them. All I can say is she's lucky she didn't rip me off with me living even 5 hours drive away. I'd be camped out on her front porch until I got my money back...no matter if it was $10. But karma is a you know what. And she will get hers.

Nice to know that this community will rally together and help someone that has been taken. Nice job guys.

 

[chamgirl99471]

As far as my communication with her... I haven't received another reply since last night when I suggested stopping by on Saturday since I'm only 2 hours away and making a trip down towards her and right through her city... surprise surprise! Wish I could rally the cops and just make a pit stop to see if they would site her for her illegal activities on here. Maybe I'll make a copy of this thread and drop it at the Port Richie Police Dept

 

[chamgirl99471]

She hasn't removed the ad on Craigslist yet so.. I contacted the site and linked the BOI thread to her ad so I'm just awaiting a response from them now! Hopefully they can block that account

 

[Maldesto]

Just a question, does this scammer not realize that the mods on fauna/admins on fauna can check the ips, and have already told her that they have never been from a different computer, so no1 has logged on the fauna classifieds besides her EVER..

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Ain't you figured out that bad guys and scammers are smarter then the rest of us? LOL

 

[Abby]

Last night I decided to email Catherine to see if she would send some pictures of the snakes and ship first. Of course I knew she wouldn't ship first, but the results are interesting nonetheless. I've attached the images she sent me. Here are the emails exchanged:

Do you still have the albino balls? Any pics?

Hi, yes I do. They are 25.00 each. here are pics.
thank you

Male or female? I would be willing to give you $100 for one if you can ship first. I'll pay shipping as well. Let me know.

Hi, that sounds good as overnight shipping can be expensive $but $80.00 will be fine, that will cover it.
Their is one male and one female but i would have to recieve the money order 1st, if you get insurance at the post office, you will be covered. thank you. cath

Cathy -

The reason I asked for shipping first is because I have been scammed before. I have many references to offer to prove I am not out to scam. Albinos are usually more than you are asking so I'm just being cautious. The post office doesn't always protect people. Let me know what you think

Hi, oh yes I really understand, I've been scammed before too, not on craigslist but an online company that wasnt legit.
Thats why I ask for the money order first lol.
These snakes were my husbands, but when we separated, he didnt take them with him up north.I have 2 cats and a dog, I really dont like snakes much.
Here are some picures, if not, thank you for your interest any way, its always good to be skeptical about people. Good luck in finding what you are looking for.

Obviously she is still out to scam. I suspect someone here might recognize the images she is using as well

 

[Abby]

Well a quick Google search brought up the images she sent me:

1st & 2nd images
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=100331&page=2

3rd image
http://www.flickr.com/photos/viper76/2408547326/

Haven't found the 4th but I'm sure it isn't hers. So sad that someone can be that low

 

[chamgirl99471]

Sent a link to the thread to her e-mail address and asked if she enjoyed using other pictures to sell her invisible snakes and she responds saying

"Not sure what you are saying. These are my pictures?."

 

[Abby]

Yea, I guess she is both the users over on BP.net It's unfortunate, she would've made the money if she wasn't a scammer. I would've happily paid her more than she wanted for those snakes