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Hi, I’m a chameleon owner from Chameleon Forums that was told to take my story about this business to this page. My name is MaKellee Doty.
For years, I have wanted a chameleon. Finally, in March, I got all the things I needed to get a chameleon. After looking at many breeders, I decided to order from CB Reptile.
The first thing was that my chameleon came in three days late. No explanation as to why after multiple emails, phone calls, and messages to the page on Facebook. Finally, I get a message the night he is sent saying they aren’t in business on the weekends, which is previously against what their website said. That was strike one.

Strike two: my chameleon comes in with no info on him and major bacterial eye infection that costed an extra $500 to clear up. I sent them an email complaining about this. Another FEW DAYS LATER, I get a response only offering a coupon to the website and saying their “on site biologist” said none of the chameleons had this infection. This specific infection could have only been spread from chameleon to chameleon (I ordered him as a little guy so he wasn’t separated from his siblings yet).
If you go on the website, absolutely no info on this said “biologist” let alone any info on their facility in general or any pictures of it. I called and requested info on this “biologist” to get no response. They also offer no info on lineage or who the sites are of the chameleons

Weeks later, more and more reviews kept coming out on Facebook and Chameleon forums of other buyers complaining about the same exact eye issue and then getting the same treatment.

Someone else on chameleon forums did some more looking into this place. Not only did they find that CB Reptile is a wholesale seller. Basically a mill for reptiles. So not the “designer captive bred” they preach about having. Basically another Backwater or LL.

Luckily, I had an amazing vet that actually specialized in chameleons and was able to save my boys life. The infection got so bad so quickly that he was puking up everything, including his own stomach acid and was on his death bed when he was taken into the vets care.

If I can keep getting the word out about this in any way possible, I will and that’s why I am here. This “breeder” is a new and upcoming business, so when I ordered, they seemed to be amazing. Please make sure you do your research and consider an older, long running breeder with high ratings.
Watch out for this place. It’s sketchy.
 
First, glad your Chameleon is doing better.

A quick glance at the site and it is apparent that they do not specialize in one reptile. With the assortment of animals offered as well as the wholesale option they also most likely do not produce what is available.

As a member of Chameleon Forums who did "research" why did you not purchase from one of the site sponsors there or from their Chameleon classifieds?
 
Weeks later, more and more reviews kept coming out on Facebook and Chameleon forums of other buyers complaining about the same exact eye issue and then getting the same treatment.
Could you please ask some of those people to come here and post. Also please post CB Reptile's response to your email.

I have notified them of this thread.
 
First, glad your Chameleon is doing better.
As a member of Chameleon Forums who did "research" why did you not purchase from one of the site sponsors there or from their Chameleon classifieds?

Good question and cant wait to see the answer.

I see this ALL the time here ... why are people still buying wild caught animals from dealers and not supporting the small, private breeders producing the animals they want ? :shrug01: :face_palm_02:

 
Good question and cant wait to see the answer.

I see this ALL the time here ... why are people still buying wild caught animals from dealers and not supporting the small, private breeders producing the animals they want ? :shrug01: :face_palm_02:


With some, or even most, of the new members of the reptile keeping hobby, they don't know how to spot a flipper/whole-saler. They just see a range of options with one or two offering a lower price and select what they think was the better deal. It takes more experience and knowledge, or being with the right group, for new keepers to be able to anticipate this sort of distinction.
 
The first thing was that my chameleon came in three days late. No explanation as to why after multiple emails, phone calls, and messages to the page on Facebook. Finally, I get a message the night he is sent saying they aren’t in business on the weekends, which is previously against what their website said. That was strike one.

Strike two: my chameleon comes in with no info on him and major bacterial eye infection that costed an extra $500 to clear up. I sent them an email complaining about this. Another FEW DAYS LATER, I get a response only offering a coupon to the website and saying their “on site biologist” said none of the chameleons had this infection. This specific infection could have only been spread from chameleon to chameleon (I ordered him as a little guy so he wasn’t separated from his siblings yet).

Hi Makelle, to present a strong case against anyone you need to support your words with emails,texts and a copy of that $500.00 vet bill you say you incurred.

You say that your cham came in 3 days late was it because you placed your order late in the week or over the weekend?

Any info on the new cham should be asked before you pay because some sellers will offer no info after they have your bucks.

Most importantly is for you to do the research before you send a payment.
 
I've attached a screenshot of Robert's facebook post regarding a stolen image and also a screenshot of where that image is currently being used on CB Reptile's website.
 

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Additionally, it appears CB Reptiles is operating under two names, with the other being Tortoisetown.com. Both websites are using identical photographs, including yours, Robert.
 

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The image stealing is apparently a symptom of a much larger problem that may not actually have anything to do with CB Reptiles or Tortoisetown.com. Shutterstock.com has these images, including yours Robert, available for free. People may be thinking these are stock photos and not actual intellectual property. I highly encourage everyone to go to this site and see if they are offering your images for free, then call them to remove the images. Here is a screenshot of Shutterstock offering Robert's available for free.
 

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Again, thank you Vanessa. I have contacted Shutterstock.com also. I'm not sure how this is legal. Shutterstock sells these images in bulk.
 
Turns out Brian Petruzzi bought 2 male siblings from this sire from me. Brian is the owner of CB Reptiles, unknown to me. He is selling panthers which the pictured male panther is grand sire of. Brian said he thought he asked me if he could use the picture, although he did not. Take home message here is: COMMUNICATION is very important.

I'm still wondering how Shutterstock.com got my picture.
 
Brian Petruzzi does in fact own CB Reptiles and Tortoise Town.

He is not connected or affiliated with Garden State which happens to also be from Galloway,N.J.
 
Oh wow, I had no idea that CB Reptile and TortoiseTown were related to each other. 0_0 I'd taken a look at them both a while back, but something kept telling me that there was something off about both of them.

ShutterStock is one of those weird sites where you can upload just about any picture you can imagine and then they are offered up as "free stock images" or premium stock images to buy for websites and the like. I've had to get in touch when an old art picture of mine was stolen and posted on there without me knowing about it. They're pretty good about removing stuff thankfully, so hopefully the same goes for you too Robert.
 
This guy has at least 3 accts. on fauna classifieds.he lists his location as Galloway on 2 accts and Absecon on another.both are in Jersey.

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and any other names you are posting under these days.what are you doing for the people you have sold sick chameleons too?
 
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