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Good Guy CCSB RESCUE
- Thread starter SteaphonDeWEESE
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I care. If they claim to work with government agencies, people may entrust them with endangered species. Their refusal to post proof of proper credentials may mean that they do not have those credentials, which might mean those entrusted critters are used for commercial purposes instead of finding their way into protected reserves and other places created for such critters.
SteaphonDeWEESE
SMJ Reptiles
And Again
I wish no one any ill will, I only wanted to bring everything out into the open as so no one could question the validity of the individual and would stop giving him such a hard time. Thanks all.
I wish no one any ill will, I only wanted to bring everything out into the open as so no one could question the validity of the individual and would stop giving him such a hard time. Thanks all.
You post brought up a lot of questions, and I do question the validity of a rescue that will not post their credentials. I believe for the safety of the critters involved, a hard look may be called for. If the requisite licenses for endangered species do not exist and he possesses endangered critters, he may not only get a hard time, he may do some time.
Fangthane
Tuck Frump!
Backpedaling aside..
In doing so, you've given him a venue in which to put the public's minds at ease. While he's chosen to make several claims which are geared toward doing just that, he's also shown a complete unwillingness to provide anything that absolutely substantiates those claims, after having been asked to do so. It's easy to throw around words like "licensed" or "non-profit", but seemingly a bit more difficult to back them up.
For someone whose profile implies that he's a preacher, he certainly doesn't seem to be walking a very righteous path. Based not only on the aforementioned lack of proof, but also on how he's chosen to address those who doubt him. Apparently, anyone who would doubt or question him are simply..
In doing so, you've given him a venue in which to put the public's minds at ease. While he's chosen to make several claims which are geared toward doing just that, he's also shown a complete unwillingness to provide anything that absolutely substantiates those claims, after having been asked to do so. It's easy to throw around words like "licensed" or "non-profit", but seemingly a bit more difficult to back them up.
For someone whose profile implies that he's a preacher, he certainly doesn't seem to be walking a very righteous path. Based not only on the aforementioned lack of proof, but also on how he's chosen to address those who doubt him. Apparently, anyone who would doubt or question him are simply..
ccsbreptilerescue said:
SteaphonDeWEESE
SMJ Reptiles
so what did we find out?
Do we have a positive that we can announce to the world?
Do we have a positive that we can announce to the world?
Fangthane
Tuck Frump!
Well, contrary to their claim that they're a non-profit organization, I couldn't find either CCSB Reptile Rescue or Chad Griffin listed on the IRS non-profit search tool. So, unless I managed to miss something, I'm fairly positive that the guy's at least somewhat FOS.SteaphonDeWEESE said:
http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations-Select-Check
If you spend too much time on the fence you'll get a rash.
SteaphonDeWEESE
SMJ Reptiles
Noted
Rash accepted. I was simply making a point. I did post him as a Good Guy did I not? I simply wanted to know the truth. When he bashed me on CL, it was an affirmative post I believe. Still no evidence to his claims though.
Rash accepted. I was simply making a point. I did post him as a Good Guy did I not? I simply wanted to know the truth. When he bashed me on CL, it was an affirmative post I believe. Still no evidence to his claims though.
Snake-Queen
New member
I have vended at several shows (Repticon) that CCSB have also attended. At every show that I have been to, they have done educational seminars. To raise money at these shows they have a large snake (retic I think) that you can have your picture take with for a small donation.
I have NEVER seen them sell any animals. In my opinion and observations, they are good, honest people.
I have NEVER seen them sell any animals. In my opinion and observations, they are good, honest people.
SteaphonDeWEESE
SMJ Reptiles
Good to know
Thanks for Sharing.
Thanks for Sharing.
Our herp club was set up right beside of them this weekend in Winston Salem NC. They were not selling animals there. They were raising money via photos withthe snake. I do not know much else other than they do not sell animals at our local shows and they do shows concerning reptile education at these same shows.
Warlock
New member
Today ccsbs true colors have shown. They are truly animal flippers and not a rescue. Today they were approached via telephone about a 4 foot boa with serious injuries from a rat. Not only would ccsb not take the snake they wouldn't even talk to the people calling and hung up on them twice. There's no money to be made on a truly sick or injured animal and so ccsb wanted nothing to do with it
Warlock
New member
For the record the boa is doing awesome. His wounds are healing well an I've gotten most of his shed off. Just have to work on his temper now lol
Snake-Queen
New member
Who did you speak with about the boa?
RonanRat
what doing.
I get CL spam in my city about this rescue as well. There were several snakes available on their website at one point that were well below market value, for pickup only. The prices were something like $50 for a retic at one point (and a disclaimer that you couldn't buy if you or anyone in your home was under the age of 18, iirc). They seem to be alright about rehoming, but there is nothing on their site stating that they are accredited and approved 501c3 charity.
If they do have the paperwork and accreditation, they are definitely encouraged to post it! As it stands they don't seem bad, just lacking legitimacy due to lack of actual charity/rescue accreditation. If they have it, I don't see it listed on their site.
If they do have the paperwork and accreditation, they are definitely encouraged to post it! As it stands they don't seem bad, just lacking legitimacy due to lack of actual charity/rescue accreditation. If they have it, I don't see it listed on their site.
They are not caring people. Look at the responses he gives. “I don’t have time for cry babies.” “I don’t have to justify myself.” And then straight into the boasts, “We are one of the biggest rescues on the eastern seaboard.” (He told me “in the US”). And about how he doesn’t have time because he is caring for so many sick animals. BUT he has time to post replies and be rude about anyone who may have criticized him. Does it really take more time to post copies of your certifications? I would think most honest people would jump at the chance to show their legitimacy, even preemptively.
Angelia Lawrence
Angelia Lawrence
Continued.
I have been to his “rescue” which is a small rented storefront (think like the size of a UPS store). So, he is not soooo big. In addition, the conditions were deplorable. I wish I could save them all. Really, what do you have to do to get your 501c? Turn in paperwork probably...so is there really anyone checking the legitimacy except us?
Angelia Lawrence
I have been to his “rescue” which is a small rented storefront (think like the size of a UPS store). So, he is not soooo big. In addition, the conditions were deplorable. I wish I could save them all. Really, what do you have to do to get your 501c? Turn in paperwork probably...so is there really anyone checking the legitimacy except us?
Angelia Lawrence
Angelia, did you get any pictures of the conditions while you were there?