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I was pretty tempted to post this in HELL, but it's not my style to let it all hang out online.
I'm in the process of moving, and my current computer isn't coming to the new house. It's old (8yrs), and it hasn't been right since the 2nd time the power supply crapped out. It takes forever for it get going, and it locks up frequently...and it's just plain ol' time for a new one.
I am NOT a tech person, but I have a fair idea of what my needs are for what I do...and am likely to do during the expected lifespan of my next computer. I am not a fan of Best Buy, and most of the other options for purchasing a computer locally just suck. Dell used to be huge in this area, until they closed the local store(s) and their customer service went to crap...but I was considering one anyway.
What a fiasco. (Bear with me, this takes a while...but it won't take you nearly as long to read as it took me to experience this)

Tuesday evening, I started online with a Dell sales representative. I explained what model I wanted, and my basic requirements. There was actually a package already set up on their main site, but I was trying to get the EPP discount - for some reason, I couldn't even access the model I wanted there. She started trying to oversell me - pushing me toward a machine that was geared to gaming - and I was out of time and patience when I bailed on the conversation.

Wednesday morning (late)
I called, and explained my needs & the model/package I was interested in to the sales rep...then stated that I was fairly pressed for time, and needed to complete the transaction within 20 minutes. She stated that wouldn't be a problem, and asked me to provide a link to the package. Since I was already set up from the previous evening, things started off easily; but at the 20 minute mark, we weren't finished yet. I asked if there was a direct number to reach her to complete the transaction later, explaining that I had to leave for an appointment. She avoided that question, stating that she would be happy to call me back if I would designate a convenient time. I explained that I couldn't say what time I would be available, and reiterated my request for a direct contact number....and again the request was ignored. I interrupted whatever she was saying and asked her to save the information on my account, and I would pick up with somebody when I had a chance to call back.

Wednesday afternoon (about 2 hrs later)
I tried the online approach again. The (next) sales rep stated that there was no information from my earlier call on my profile, but he will be happy to assist me. I told him that I wanted a package that was not accessible from the EPP section, but it was shown on the main site. I provided him the link, and ID'd the specific package by name & by listing the RAM, hard drive, and processor specs. It should have been easy...or so I thought.
Instead, he kept telling me he was working on it, then finally said he was almost finished customizing my package. Customizing? I wanted a specific package. Why the :censored: is this guy customizing it?? SO, he finally finishes his little project, and emails me the list.....he gave me a great price, and I would have been really happy with it, IF the :censored::censored: had based it on the specs I had provided. I was seething when I pointed out that he had wasted 45 minutes of my time by creating a package that wasn't based on the specific details I gave him. He asked if he could call me in 10-15 minutes...I said no, and ended the call.

Wed afternoon - 10 minutes later.
I called & started with yet another sales rep...her first question to me was whether this was my first time calling Dell - my response: "unfortunately, no", I then explained that I had been trying unsuccessfully to order a computer, and was less than happy with my experience so far. She promised to do her best to help me, and asked for the details on the package I wanted. Time dragged on - it really sucks when the entire customer service team is based overseas, and English is not the primary language of the staff - but she finally emailed a quote on the package I wanted. Of course, she noticed that I had been sent a quote from another rep, and that had different coding and was about $150 less, so she wanted to figure out why. I happily answered that, telling her it was because the last sales rep was creating his own package, without regard for my specifications. She asked what I meant, and I explained that he downgraded the processors and RAM, and upgraded the hard drive...even though I specifically stated what I wanted, and directed him to the exact package. I assured her that the package she emailed me was what I wanted, and that I was ok with the price difference. I stated that I had to get off the phone, but that I wanted her to submit the order and email me with confirmation. She tried to continue the conversation, and I said "I'm sorry, but I have spent the past two hours trying to order this computer, and I have an appointment that I cannot be late for. I can't stay on the phone any longer, so please just submit the order and send me confirmation. I've got to go - thank you for your help, goodbye."

No confirmation email.

Friday afternoon, I pulled up the email she sent with the quote, and asked if she had submitted the order, and if she would send me confirmation.
Saturday evening, I called Dell Customer Support, and was told that if I hadn't received the confirmation email, the order was never submitted.
I didn't say it, but my thought was ARE YOU :censored: KIDDING ME?? TWO HOURS WITH THESE F-TARDS, AND MY COMPUTER STILL ISN'T ORDERED??
I went online tonite, and entered my customer number...and sure enough, I have no order pending.

Best Buy has an HP package that is fairly comparable for about $75 more. (I've recently been told that HP is now the way to go anyway - shows how much attention I've paid...last I knew, everybody warned people to stay away from them). I'm at least half leaning toward just buying a Mac, though.

I think I will make a point of seeking out an American customer service person at Dell, though, just to voice my complaint.
 
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Don't buy an HP, if I were you, I'd got to http://www.newegg.com and order one of their laptops there. You will never beat the price newegg offers, shipping is cheap or free depending on the product, and you typically get the laptop within 3 days of ordering it. There are hundreds of honest customer reviews with each product... read them! Newegg attracts computer geeks, and the reviews are extremely helpful. Newegg is also great about putting up ALL the statistics of the hardware they sell, which is invaluable to me personally. Newegg's customer service is bar-none... no questions asked returns of defective product within 30 days (when most computer issues will likely prop up if there's a bad install or bad hardware). After 30 days you'll have to contact the manufacturer of the product.

I'm from a family of computer nuts. We order all of our hardware from newegg and assemble computers ourselves. Be rest-assured if you order from them.

ACER is a decent laptop brand. Their computers are reliable (I've owned one for 3 years and gone camping with the darn thing for 9 months and it still works), but if you do run into a problem their customer service is crap. But seriously, check newegg.com and see if they've got any good deals with extended warantees for you.

I don't normally push businesses like this, but I've been a customer of newegg for... geez, probably as long as it has been around. You really can't beat them.
 
If you go with HP (or Compaq) make sure you do a COMPLETE backup the minute you set it up. They tattoo the motherboard and if something happens, you will never be able to recover the info on it without the backup that has the original tattoo.
 
We just bought an HP a few weeks ago for the little woman. She really likes it. We did buy it at Best Buy. I go to Best Buy all the time. The thing I like about buying from a retail store is the fact that someone is there to show you the computer. Buying online is fine if you know exactly what you are buying. Good luck finding the right computer, and sorry to hear about all your troubles.
 
I hate Dell

I used to be a very loyal Dell laptop fan until I ordered a brand new Dell studio laptop. Specked to the nines this thing was and I got it for a steal. Maybe that's why is was a piece of crap! It crashed at least once every two weeks, the LCD screen had to be replaced once, not to mention the touch buttons at the top never worked right then finally had to be replace. I had to reinstall Windows on it 4 times.
WORST COMPUTER EVER!!
Not to mention the same run around crappy customer service you experienced each time.
Oh and I had to take it into Geek Squad once because a mother board on it fried. I refused to pay for it, Dell did pick up the tab but was left without a laptop for 2.5 weeks.

I sold it last year and used that money and money I'd been saving to get the all new Sony Vaio. BEST LAPTOP ever!!!

I have also had and have and Acer. I will never buy another brand now other then Acer or Sony. Period. I have friends who work for HP, Intel, and Cisco and those two brands are also the most recommended.

EBay is a great place to find a really good laptop /computer for a great deal. Another website is overstock.com or pricegrabber.com. :D
 
why not build your own Harald? You can get 8+gigs of ram, and a huge HD for cheaper then you could buy one. Unless you want a laptop. Then id recommend a sony or HP
 
I'm not looking for a laptop. (I've got a Dell Studio 17 that has been great, though it isn't heavily used. I use it for what I bought it for, little to nothing else)

I'm not building simply because I'm not a computer person. Don't know, don't want to know - period.

While I do appreciate the advice, in actuality, adding more options will only confuse me. (see my explanation for not building my own :D )

It isn't bad now, since I don't have internet access at the house yet...but once it's there, I'm going to get cranky if I have to go too long without a computer (yes, I could use my laptop until I get a new desktop - but I don't want to)
 
then id go with the HP package. (Mind lettin us know what specs you want? :D)
 
I would avoid Dell like the plague. They have all their hardware custom made so you cant just use off the shelf componets if something goes wrong. You have to buy their hardware at inflated prices.

I have ran across this with motherboards in home computers and RAM in laptops. The latest was last year when a friend of mine wanted me to upgrade his RAM... no problem bring it by and I'll get the numbers off the memory and we'll place the order. We placed the order... it came in... and it wouldnt work. WTF!!!! I looked at it ... and it was the EXACT specs he needed. He called Newegg.com and explained the problem and they informed him that he needed SPECIFIC RAM for dells. They took back the memory we bought and shipped out him the right one. The kicker was it was the same specs as what we ordered... just something was wired different on the board. :shrug01:

I bought a Gateway desktop from newegg. The price was actually cheaper than going thru gateway. I have been using newegg for my computer needs for the past 6 or 7 years. I would recommend them to anyone without hesitation.
 
I am a very silent partner in a computer store in the twin cities. In the early 2000's, all of the big named laptop companies made hardware that was based solely on their machines. Gateway, Compaq, Dell and IBM (now Lenovo). These days it's still sort of the same thing, except hard drives, memory and other "non-essential) devices are able to be swapped between companies.

Dell is one of our top selling brands. The problem is ordering directly from the company is a nightmare. But on the plus side rarely do they come in for repairs. Sony's had a bad run for a few years with motherboard issues, which the company refuses to acknowledge, we usually keep them on hand just in case one comes back. Gateway are alright, but nothing special. IBM/Lenovo are a nightmare to deal with. Decent hard working machines, but an absolute nightmare to work on (like Volkswagen cars). As for Acer, they are the Walmart of laptops. We do more repairs on those then any other machine out there. They are built to last about 2 years, then all goes to hell.

If you have any questions or want any advice shoot me a message. I would be more then happy to help you. Newegg is a great site, but www.tigerdirect.com has better deals usually.
 
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