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Bad Guy Chris Applegate=Beware!

reptilemike said:
i have also had experiences with chris and his mom on multiple ocasions telling me they were going to buy gators and retics off of me and had them never buy them or call to say they changed there mind. i have seen a few times where they had snakes covered in mites and respiratory infections bad ,and told them and they just blew it off like they did not care. they have been banned from the ohio shows completely . i do not know how there home conditions are they may be grate , who knows. i recently offered chris a trade for an albino ball he has he turned me down, no big deal probably better for me lol. as for all of you who held animals for him with out a deposit we all live and learn no matter who they are get a deposit before you hold an animal or agree to drive to meet some one . Chris is not a bad guy i just think they are in reptiles for the money not the animals hence half of there out ragous prices . Hopefully chris and his mom will either get a passion for these animals or just step out of the business. i guess my best advice for dealing with them or anyone else is check out what you are buying closely because once you take possession its now yours . Mike Schofield
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How much are tiger retics going for as babies now a days Mike, if I might ask. Also, my gf is interested in an albino lavendar retic when we get a bigger place, how much would one of those set me back? LOL
 
The crazy thing is that he was there at the show. They bought a ton of stuff AT that show. He could have at any point walked over and said "hey we blew all our money on other stuff,see if you can sell the animal to someone else."

I had not planned to take any animals to that show. Only did because he asked me to. I am not from KY so it cost me every time I want to take an animal to a show.

Thing is, he would not have even known I had the animal if not for another guy asking to buy one on the other board. I replied to the other persons wanted ad and Chris emailed me wanting to buy it out from under the guy with the want ad. (sneaky)
I choose not to sell to the guy with the want ad after all, due to his nearly extinct brain cells. So I then proceeded to discuses the sale with Chris. But this was only after I found out the guy from the want ad was in no way going to be a good home for the animal.


But my point here is,,he did show up,he was there at the show. And even said at the start of the show he was going to bring me the money.....Then could not be troubled to walk 15 feet to tell me before the end of the show that he was backing out. He didn't even have to walk,,he could have yelled that far.
"hey ,I know I talked you into bringing the animal and paying the travel permit ,,but we spent all our money on other stuff so sorry about your luck!"
 
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"stealth mode" is not acceptable on the BOI...either post your correct name, or create your own account.
hhmoore
 
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I stand here disappointed in my recent business transactions, I know that what I have done was uncalled for. I'm not looking for anything other than to resolve my past short comings. I have no excuses that are worth mentioning here so I will simply state that I truly am sorry for those I have mislead and or put out financially in any way. I hope to have future dealing with all of you for many years to come. I'm willing to make right anything I have done wrong, please e-mail me so that this may all be resolved.

Chris Applegate
 
Aside from his post above, Chris and I have been talking via e-mail today and he issued a sincere and earnest apology for his actions.....being who I am and Chris being the person I know he is, I whole-heartedly accept his apology and am willing to do anything I can to help him get on track.

Its not about the money....that was never the point. I just want to see him succeed both as a person and as a contributer to the herp community.

I consider the issues between Chris and myself closed. :)
 
my dealings and feelings

I've had similar dealings with Chris over the course of friendship. Before I start id like to say that Chris and Peggy are both great people. I have not seen mite covered animals nor have I seen respritory problems with their animals. Some of the import animals and recently aquired animlas I have seen them have been what I call ''in questionable health'' but none to the extent mentioned above.

BUT to the point.... in past dealing Chris has showed interest and ''staked his claim'' on merchendice and then backed out simply without returning emails, Pm's or text. No excusses no explaination, nothing.

The one deal that will remain most is the most recent. I had a spider ball pythin for sale for $200 on our local forum. Chris came to me privatly as a friend and I gave him what id like to call ''friends and family discount'' a set price that no haggling was involved and we agreed $150 was a good price for a spider ball pythong.

All was good.... we had arranged to do the transaction the upcoming expo, which he did not attend but he did email me in advance and tell me he wouldn't be there. That was fine I held it for another month for him until the next show.

Between that day and the show I had posted FREE bowls and hemostates. Chris replied and wanted those as well and I was to bring them with the spider ball python. I agreed.

This is where it got tricky... he emailed me 3 days before the show askng if I would take $100 instead of our agreed price of $150. I felt that my kind hand was taken advantage of being he was obviosly given a steep discount from the begining. I was offended by his quaestion and declined. I got no reply from my email declining his offer of $100. Then the day before the show I receive a message from him asking me if I was still bring the FREE bowls and hemostates? No I was not!

The deal fell through because our agreed price suddenly became not good enough and I declined his offer for $100.

See Chris and I are friends and I knew as well ashe did he was going to sell that spider ball for retail price which at the time was $275.

I undertsand making profit, I suppose there truly is a fine line between business and friendship.

I hold no grudges but the deal that never happened and the feeling won't be forgoten.
 
Awesome. Thanks Chris, Just what we need here in Ohio...a bunch more, less than honest, sketchy, animal flippers...
Why don't you guys try selling snake oil or something like that? Something that isn't a living sentient being that requires just a little effort and care to keep healthy.
 
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Explaining why it isn't your name in the profile doesn't solve the problem of your full name not being included.
 
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Ken Harbart said:
Care to clarify the above?
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It's a Kentucky thing, those of us who are around this part of the country and do the kentucky shows just had a little giggle, inside joke if you will. Tammatha makes the best cupcakes (although it requires a bit of blackmail to get her to make them sometimes) and brings them to all the shows to share with other vendors show me another venue in the country that has that kind of friendly atmosphere the kentucky shows have where you get free cupcakes.
 
ForkedTung said:
Awesome. Thanks Chris, Just what we need here in Ohio...a bunch more, less than honest, sketchy, animal flippers...
Why don't you guys try selling snake oil or something like that? Something that isn't a living sentient being that requires just a little effort and care to keep healthy.
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Actually if your looking to buy some snake oil try Josh Anderson he had some for sale last I knew (it's really called snake oil to help aid shedding)
 
I had a deal with him a couple years back. We where to meet at the indiana show and trade a few of my retics for a few of his alligators. He said he lived in ohio and had a 3 hour drive I live in southwest missouri and it took me 9 hours one way. I arrived at indiana paid for a hotel and called. long story short he got into trouble and wazs grounded so he was not allowed to go to the show which also punished me because I drove all that way for a bogus trade. 18 hour round trip, hotel, gas, and luging around a bunch of large snakes for nothing. If I would have known he was so yound I probably wouldn't have started with any dealings in the first place.


He just needs to learn to keep his word when it involves other peoples time and money.

Drew
 
Actually Drew.. I was told to leave the show.. That was the first Indy show I had been to and well you can't have alligators there..

I probably won't be on here again. I said want I needed to.

Feel free to send emails.
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Chris
 
Well you should have answered your phone when I called and maybe we could have meet somewhere other than the show to do the deal instead of blowing it off!
 
Grounded?

he was grounded?? Did I just read that correctly?? Just how old is this little twerp?? And how can you be expected to run a business if you have to still a customer because you didn't clean up your dinkie cars???

Gino Beniquez
 
GinoInDaBronx said:
And how can you be expected to run a business if you have to still a customer because you didn't clean up your dinkie cars???

Gino Beniquez
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By misleading customers/other vendors and making them beleive you are older than you are.


We always ask a persons age when selling reptiles (mainly because we sell retics, and we're VERY anal about who they goto and who they don't goto)

but most people will never ask, just assume. In this case it was obviously assumed that this guy WASN'T a child and WAS reliable and honest. Obviously he's neither.
 
I've recieved several emails from chris on several diffrent ad's that I have posted on venomousreptiles.org.....Chris promised to make several buys from me and has NEVER sent me any money. He promised to buy 19 baby Eastern Diamondbacks from me last year and had me hold the rattlesnakes for him over one month waiting on payment and then he dissappeared on me. Then in February 2009, I posted several more ad's online and one of these ad's was for a 5' Nile Monitor that I had to sale for $125 and out of the blue, I recieve another email from chris apologizeing about the rattlesnakes and he promised to buy the nile monitor from me at the march columbia show. I asked chris several times to send atleast a $50 deposit via paypal so I know he was serious to buy and he promised me that he was currantly short on funds, but he would have all the money saturday morning before the show started so I gave him the benifit of the doupt. When the show came and gone, I tried several times to reach chris via email and phone and to this day have not recieved any responce from him......My opinion of Chris Applegate, I think he is smokin crack and setting a bad example for all of the good guys trying to make an honest living in the reptile industry that we all love so much.
 
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