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Chris Zorra?

he sure has

I havent seen an email from him since we had this post...lol i am so glad i found out he was pat kane.
 
???

I was just directed to this thread from a friend of mine....

I also have recieved a voice mail from a Ryan Hill....

313 Taunton Avenue is no longer the companies address....I have moved the company back to Massachusetts...

Anyone involved in this please contact me with any information you have against Zorra as I already have enough problems, and don't need any more.

Thank-You,

Pat Kane
 
Well Pat, you are logged in under kanezoological right now and guess what, your IP matches that of "Chris Zorra." You are reading this thread, so what do you have to say about all this?
 
Re: ???

kanezoological said:
I was just directed to this thread from a friend of mine....

I also have recieved a voice mail from a Ryan Hill....

313 Taunton Avenue is no longer the companies address....I have moved the company back to Massachusetts...

Anyone involved in this please contact me with any information you have against Zorra as I already have enough problems, and don't need any more.

Thank-You,

Pat Kane
Click to expand...

Funny how you were just directed to this thread from a "friend." Funny how you and 'Chris Zorra" have the SAME EXACT IP ADDRESS.

kanezoological said:
Anyone involved in this please contact me with any information you have against Zorra as I already have enough problems,
Click to expand...

I have all the information you need....Go look in a mirror, you'll find Chris Zorra there.
 
Hey Pat, a RYAN HILL called you??

My name is not Ryan & I didn't call you, so blow yourself about someone leaving you a voice mail! As usual you are full of crap. I did send a formal complaint to your ISP about you attempting to use your internet service to commit fraud...they should be contacting you soon! What a joke. Is it just a total coincidence that someone else with a whole lot in common with you is also doing business from the exact same location? You are BUSTED...you have problems because you are a liar & your lies have caught up to you. Stay out of herps...we don't need people like you in this business!

Ro Hill
 
I went ahead and put a stop payment on the check I sent to Zorra. Cost me $20 that is now in my bank's pocket, but that's better than losing the entire amount.

It is unfortunate that it is too hard to tell the scammers from the real people nowadays, and if I am wrong in feeling this could be a scam, then I apologize. BUT...

Its funny how Kane's website is still up, the IP addresses and the physical address matches Zorra's exactly. If he's really out of business or has moved, why has the website not been taken down or changed to reflect the move?

It was also odd that Zorra emailed many people with exactly what they were looking for.

Here is the last e-mail I received from Chris after I told him of my concern and that I wanted to hear back from him by noon yesterday. He didn't email me in time, so the check is now invalid.

X-Originating-IP: [24.34.146.89]
X-Originating-Email: [[email protected]]
X-Sender: [email protected]
From: "Chris Zorra" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Male Sonoran Gopher Snake
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:59:14 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2004 14:59:15.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C297A80:01C45869]
X-UIDL: QXI"!9~6!!lkA!!;,S!!


Nothing is going on here.

313 Taunton avenue hasn't been kane zoologicals address for two months they went out of business, I live upstairs from him.

Let me know if you ahve put a stop payment in that case there is no need to send the snake...

Let me know,

Chris
 
Clara,

Funny how he says kanezoological moved out two months ago but the IP address for that email is exactly the same IP Pat posted from under kanezoological this morning. You have NOTHING to apologize for and I think he owes YOU for the $20.00 stop payment fee.

Can you say, Identity Crisis?...lmao
 
Unfortunately, since he hasn't bothered to post here in defence of himself, I doubt he's going to bother to pay me the $20 for the stop fee.
 
Dangit, I went to insert a carriage return, and instead it posted the reply. Oh well. Hopefully folks can read "typo."

I won't rehash any of what Dennis has stated, as the evidence of this kid's little fraud is rather conclusive. I said it before, and I'll say it again... we only catch the dumb ones, but this one was easier than most.
 
I am Ryan Hill i called him since he has my $75. "Chris Zorra" had me use his ups account number to overnight a money order. I bet that account number belongs to pat.
 
Time to Check

HE sent me an account number also. Lets see if the one he sent you and the one he sent me match. The one he sent me is: 76Y24F
 
Oh, oh.

Ryan you sent him money? What address did you send it to? Maybe if you called the police that might light a fire under Pat (Chris). Did you also have a wanted ad on KS? Thatseems to be how he is finding prospective targets.

Ro Hill
 
no money from me

He didnt get any money from me but he find my ad on fauna so obviously hes going through all the classified ads and emailing people.
 
He did get my money. I had an ad on kingsnake for red tegus. The address he had me send the money to is kane zoo inc. Yes that is the same ups acc number as the one i used. We need to do something about this.
Ryan
 
heeey

I just thought of something..lol He has you use HIS account number so you have no proof you sent the money. Do you have any proof that you sent the money to that address? Do you have the emails confirming the deal? If so there maybe some way to get him in trouble.
 
Are we really sure it's his UPS account, perhaps they can be of some help!

I'm sure they will want to know if someone is using their services to rip poeple off, especiallly when it involves live animals!

Just a thought!

Brandon Larson
 
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