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Bad Guy Christian Ryder! RYDER SCIENTIFIC (SCAMMER)

Even if he lied, which he most likely did, and was trying to get a monitor that he can't legally have doesn't mean you should get a free $100 out of the deal. You are cancelling the transaction, understandably, so you should refund the deposit. This will end up costing you much more than the $100 in the long run.
 
I agree the buyer was shady and put you through a lot of hassle. You also have a no refunds policy. But, I think you are personally annoyed by this person (justifiably so) and you are making the decision on emotional, not business reasons. Yes, this buyer was a pain and a waste of time. But you don't want to turn off future buyers who see this thread and decide you are being unreasonable. There is some research you should do as a seller. Refund the money and consider it lesson learned. How can you use this experience to improve your business practices?

Or, you can be mad at the guy and keep the money on a technicality and maybe buyers won't want to work with you. Damaging your reputation isn't worth $100 when you aren't out anything ( other than time and annoyance).

All the stuff about licenses and being at FedEx and stuff, yes annoying but when you bring it up it's just sounding like a rationalization for keeping the money.


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No matter what PayPal decides/decided, or name calling, or threats, or ignorance of law, or if your TOS/Ad states "deposits are non-refundable", etc., if the Seller backs out of a deal (or does not follow through with a deal), the seller has no right to keep a buyer's deposit.
The only way a seller would have the right, to keep a "nonrefundable" deposit, is if the Buyer backed out on the deal.

Also, it is foolish to ship something prior to receiving full payment. Furthermore, if a buyer states he/she will send the rest of the payment after being shown proof that a critter was shipped, it should really make seller run away from such a transaction.
However, in this case, it was agreed to and, if it was agreed to, one cannot use the speculation, of a possible scam, as an excuse to keep the deposit when shipping never occurred (and, thus, no scam occurred).

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By the way, Kazimir, this is the email connection to the account, so that is why I am asking about the name he gave you.
 

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He used a different phone number and email recently - lame attempt to avoid the connection?
 
If a non-refundable deposit is part if the terms of shipping, then it is completely reasonable for OP to keep it. The only thing muddying this up is the legal issues. It sounds like the buyer either knowingly tried to purchase an animal he couldn't own and when was found out lied to get it, or he didn't know and when he found out also lied. And while it would be good faith for OP to refund the money he has no obligation.
 
LuckyStar said:
If a non-refundable deposit is part if the terms of shipping, then it is completely reasonable for OP to keep it. The only thing muddying this up is the legal issues. It sounds like the buyer either knowingly tried to purchase an animal he couldn't own and when was found out lied to get it, or he didn't know and when he found out also lied. And while it would be good faith for OP to refund the money he has no obligation.
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I disagree. If the buyer cancels, it is forfeiture according to terms involved. If the seller cancels, it is not. Otherwise, a seller could simply cancel every deal for which a deposit has been received in order to keep pulling in free deposits with no delivery.

I believe the buyer was wise to cancel, however, it would be unjustified (and unwise since this is public) to keep it since he canceled the deal (for good reasons).
 
LuckyStar said:
If a non-refundable deposit is part if the terms of shipping, then it is completely reasonable for OP to keep it. The only thing muddying this up is the legal issues. It sounds like the buyer either knowingly tried to purchase an animal he couldn't own and when was found out lied to get it, or he didn't know and when he found out also lied. And while it would be good faith for OP to refund the money he has no obligation.
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Actually, legally and ethically, this seller does.

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Ethically, maybe, legally I'm not so sure. Although looking again it kind of seems like op is taking advantage of the situation.
 
The OP offered to ship as soon as he sees proof of licensure. To me the sale has not been cancelled at all, it's on hold until the OP sees proof he can legally ship the animal. I'm surprised at the amount of people, moderators included, jumping on the OP to refund the deposit the buyer agreed was non refundable because the buyer is either holding out on information necessary to complete the transaction or trying to buy illegally. OP keeps the deposit and the deal for the monitor is on hold until requested legal documentation is provided. This one seems real simple to me. Hypothetically, if another buyer comes along that is more capable of making the purchase the potential buyer, whoever this guy really is, is out his nonrefundable deposit.
 
TOsage said:
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Perhaps you are forgetting that the moderators are, first and foremost, members of this site...and, as such, are as entitled to post their opinions as anybody else.

My initial reaction, upon reading the opening post, was that the OP was correct - that this was likely a scam attempt. If anything, I'm more confident of that now...and I would be very surprised if he is in possession of a NYS permit that would allow this purchase; but I still don't think keeping the money is the right thing to do.
Sure - stealing from a scammer rings of poetic justice...but, at the end of the day, it's still stealing.
 
Kazimir,
These questions were already asked; but I don't recall seeing responses:
Where was the ad posted?
What was the name on the PayPal account?
 
The purpose of a nonrefundable deposit is so that you are covered in case you turn down other potential sales in between the deposit and completed transaction. While the seller did back out of the deal, it was the buyer's fault he had to do so, by not providing proof that he was allowed to own that animal.

I personally would refund the money just so I am not tied up with accepting payment for animals that the buyer is not legally allowed to own, (in fact I would have walked away in the beginning because of the whole shady "i'm not going to pay until you ship" thing), but I still think it's up to the seller in this case since he may have lost out on other sales after accepting the deposit and marking the animal "sold." Just my take on the matter!
 
No I did not forget that moderators are members and are entitled to give their opinion, in fact that opinion was what I was addressing. It's just my opinion and we can agree to disagree but why should the OP refund the agreed upon nonrefundable deposit because the buyer refuses to comply with the terms of the sale? And please correct me if I'm wrong but the OP is still offering to ship the monitor once he sees proof the buyer can legally keep them so the sale was not cancelled by the seller, he's wanting to see the buyers license. If the buyer is unable to produce the requested proof that he can legally keep this species in NY he should not have initiated the transaction. If the buyer indeed has the required licensure, which seems highly doubtful, it would be very easy to prove, there wouldn't be any name calling and this thread would not exist.
 
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