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Chuck Tornetta - Big trade deal gone south

Jeremy Stone emailed Dallas and gave him the scoop.
Jeremy stone got with Dallas and gave him the scoop on the deal.


The resemblance (at least to me ) is uncanny.
You both sound like you have first hand knowledge of this.

But since you did get offended. And since I was starting to think it was you and struggling with myself to believe it.

I will apologize if Iinsinuated it was you.

But you have to give me the fact that there are a LOT of similarities.

1. Writing style
2. Cursing
3. Knowledge of Jeremy writing to him (seemingly first hand)
4. Location Waco Texas
5. Comments about us / me being a kid.
6. comments about hiding behind a computer and or cowering
But those are clearly all circumstancial
 
Anyway Gilbert if you missed it......I do apologize.




okay on to Chuck
I am asking anybody who has a picture of Dallases, coral albino female from me , to please send it to [email protected] .

Unfortunately chuck.
I was looking at his picture of the female NON coral on his regular colored newspaper.
I was also looking at his picture of the VERY orange coral on a VERY orange newspaper.

Then he came here and posted for everyone to look at his coral.
He even came here to apologize and say Unfortunately he does not have pics of the female

He did not realize that I already saw it and I KNOW HE DELETED IT TO COVER HIS TRACKS

But alas I have no proof of the picture ever existing.
It will come down to my word against his.
And since I do not have anything to back up my claims of the deletion....then my claims are basically ch!t.

One of the reasons why I do not deal with the phone.
He said she said stuff with no records to print out.
 
I understand in a way!! I hope my style of typing is a little better and besides when we mended fences I was cool. I don't hold grudges anymore life is to short. Besides, I am about to turn 30 and would hate to kill over with a heart attack. You are right I use to get high blood pressure on here:)
One more thing I don't live in Waco Texas. I live in Bremond Texas.
No offense taken. I feel wrong speaking on this any further due to what the thread is really about. It's kinda a injustice to both Chuck and Dallas. Chuck brought up a good point. If the animal is sick then something needs to happen. I am just curious why this was not brought to Dallas's attention sooner. Or was it??
Gilbert Thompson
 
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1923393&uid=1029108&members=1

click on the link
click on the coral albino

look at the caption
SOLD! 1.0 Coral Albino
This is an exceptional coral male. I usually try to take pics outside but it had been rainy and dark so i took some inside. Anyway, the pics come out much better outside. Inside my snake room i have a lot of yellow lights that may make look the animal and its surroundings look yellowish etc. This is not the case, if i had a good pic taken outside, this animal would look even better. Just check out all my other animals that i have taken pics of outside, they look fabulous! I just wanted to make sure that there are NO thoughts of me enhancing the photo. You may ask the buyer of this animal, he is very happy. Thank! Dallas Quarles

Wow sounds to me like someone is covering their tracks.

Could this be the reason why the females picture was deleted? Because the females picture was also taken inside. But her background and the newspaper were definatley not orange


The picture posted below belongs to Dallas Quarles. It is his coral. As you can see the background and the newspaper (in my opinion) seems very orange. But if any of you would have seen the "normal" albino he posted.... you would have seen that the background and the newspaper were DEFINATLEY BOT orange. This is being posted for your educational purposes. And it is being posted under the free use act blah blah blah
 

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Chuck brought up a good point. If the animal is sick then something needs to happen. I am just curious why this was not brought to Dallas's attention sooner. Or was it??
I have personally received sick animals before.
The persons I got them from never heard a word about it.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt and trusted them.
So I took care of the problem on my own without anyones knowledge.
But if they did have a problem....I would have brought up my problems as well.

As you can see there is no proof posted whatsoever that Chuck tried to sell the animal that is sick

HOWEVER

It is posted everywhere that Dallas tried to and has sold...all these SUBPAR animals that he was unhappy with. And he sold them as excellent QUALITY animals.

He even comes here to say chuck lied to him about the genetics
But in his ads tells people that Chuck will verify the genetics to be 100% correct.

p.s. Your cell phone number does trace as a Bremond number.
 
Oh well if that is the case then I thinnk Dallas needs to annie up another Sharp Strain female for Chuck. Unless something else was agreed upon during that phone call. It's obvious that he cannot trade back at this point. Was this female of Chucks taken to the vet to firm up his story?
The only reason I ask is because the BOI usually ask for that type of proof.
Gilbert Thompson
 
Well I know all I can say is this Chuck had some AWESOME Corals. I don't know what happened to their deal but it is hard to think Chuck would throw it away over a one snake. I don't know maybe they are both wrong to a certian extent.
JMHO!
Gilbert Thompson
 
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Here's the image run through an automatic filter setting to adjust for lighting issues. Since I don't know corals that well I don't know if it changes anything.
 
there we go.

that is definately much closer.

the newspaper under that animal finally looks a little bit like the color of the newspaper he had the female on. THE ONE HE DELETED.


and why did he delete it?
to cover his scamming tracks
 
better pic then that ,lol

hi guys, can someone send me an email for a better pic of the actual male coral i found a pic in my files but i cant figure out how to post it in a thread here . so you will have to be able to do so . but it is a pic un tampered with showing coral colors we look for to give you a better rep of my stock.
[email protected]
thank you chuck tornetta reptiles
p.s the pic i needed was the female in question though .
 
okay okay.

you all know I have been hounding Dallas.
But I like to THINK that I at least try to look at all sides.

So to be fair to him.

The picture of the female I saw. The one that was deleted...
Was not as pretty as that one. In fact it looked more like a normal albino.

But I am not gonna say it is a normal albino.
Because my friend Brian bought a normal albino that is turning colors and is starting to look like the picture Dwedeking just posted.

That picture posted is truly awesome.
It competes with some of the albino X surinam I have seen
 
That is a very nice coral albino...
Now to why I am posting again.

Darin Chappell said:
Here we go again. It only happens about ever six weeks or so. I really shouldn't be surprised, and I REALLY shouldn't let it aggrivate me. However, the tendancy for some to come into an established community of people who have been working well together for YEARS and tell them that they're doing it all wrong is just ARROGANT!


Hey Darrin That is the kind of comment/reason so many people have abandoned KS and refuse to post on it any longer. And also that isn't usually the best way to view things.

The way that reads (To me anyway) is your saying to everyone who isn't an established and accepted member you need to shut up and play nice or you will get insulted as well.

I could be reading it wrong, (I have started my day out climbing from the wrong side of the bed.lol) but then again I could be reading it right.:D
 
Randy,

Well, you're both right and wrong in your understanding of that snippet of my post. Let me explain.

I am fully thankful for every new member that we can possibly get here at fauna. Not so that our numbers appear bigger, and not so we can begin to take over the gecko world either (sorry. couldn't help myself!). I look forward to new members coming here, because I firmly believe in diversity of experience, perspective, and thought. I am all about encouraging people to speak their minds here on the BOI. Some of the people who are now "old timers" were once newbies, who were disgusted with the way things transpired on the BOI, and I personally talked them into staying around long enough to fully comprehend the nuances of this community, Once they did, they came to appreciate the BOI for what it actually is.

However, what I am not in favor of, here or in any other board community, are new people, who have no real perspective of what actually takes place here on a day by day basis, telling everyone about how we're not using the BOI properly. I'm sorry, but I think that is perhaps the most arrogant thing you can say to a group of people who have been interacting online as a true community with each other for a long, long time. We know how it is supposed to be used, let me assure you. How? Because, although Rich Z. has been generous enough to provide this arena of ideas, and it has been developed completely under his oversight and personal control, those who have been here the longest have had the most impact on what this BOI has become. The "old timers" around here helped to BUILD this site, but someone (not singling ANYONE out here!) who has been lurking for two weeks and then made four or five posts is supposed to know how to use the BOI better than the old-timers??? That's just ridiculous.

I remember arguing with my mother when I was 16. I told her that I was the better driver between the two of us, because I had just read the State driver's training manual, and the information was fresher in my memory. Well, that was a really stupid argument for me to establish with her! She only had about 20 years experience behind the wheel by that time! However, to me, the argument made perfect sense, and I persisted until my father "explained" things to me later. :D

All I am saying is that new people are more than welcome to post whatever in the world they want in whatever thread they want. I am thrilled they are all here. But please, new people (whoever you are), think about what you are saying when you are basically tell us all:

"Wow! You people sure are misusing this whole BOI thing! Good thing for you I've stumbled on to this site to teach you better!"

The BOI works exactly as it is designed to do in about 99.99% of the cases. When it doesn't work, we recognize it rather quickly, and the BOI is self-corrective. Honest, intelligent people have helped establish this site, and have helped it to continue. More of the same join us every day, and we are thankful!

Regardless of your poltical leanings, it's just like what Rush Limbaugh tells his listeners all the time on his radio show: You have to sit back and give it six weeks or so to understand all of the nuances that go into any thread posted here. There is background to a number of these threads that you may not understand, and many of the old-timers simply forget that the context is not as obvious to everyone else.

By all means, everyone, jump right in! But before you complain about the water being too hot, you might want to make certain that the spring-fed pond you thought you were jumping into wasn't always intended to be a hot tub from the very beginning! ;)
 
Yes... Mr .Chappel, very well said indeed. Just out of curiosity, who are the intended targets? I know we are all big boys and girls here, and for the most part address one another by name. So, any newbie in particular we are aiming at, or just shooting from the hip?
 
I am curious to find out if I am one of the "newbies". I have read the forum and had an old account quite a while back that I let the email addy on lapse. So if I am one of the newbies, I must be a fairly "schooled" newbie then. If not then my apologies, if so you are mistaken.

And to say that just because a group of people have formed a good cohesion(sp?) and thus means they know what is right, and a new perspective is wrong is a very ARROGANT thing to say, if that was the case why don't we reform our Government and rejoin with England so they can rule us and take our taxes instead of the Uproarious buttinskees that happened to think they might have a valid point of view..

Just my opinion Later Randall Turner aka Randy T.:D
 
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