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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I asked mike if he would after we found out that it was jesse shipping for us thats why I had mike address</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

This story is so full of holes

On June 23 you wrote this
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:557 -0700 (PDT)
From: Katie Larson
Subject: Re: tracking number
To: Clay English
Clay,
We are leaving in about 15 minutes down too Iowa,My wifes father had a stroke. But I have a friend that will be waiting for them at his place till we get back tuesday night. Then I'll email you tuesday night saying we got him.
His name is
Mike Peterson c/o 218 Herps
1011 4th ave N.W
Austin,Mn
55912
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Hey Jon or Jesse.
We did not bust you until the 24th.


On june 25th you wrote this in an e-mail to Clay
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">part of an e-mail on June 25
I didn't know till tonight after talking with Greg it was Mr Underhill that was shipping and receiving our packages.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


Summary
you say you had the boas shipped to mike because you found out the previous address you had them shipped to was jesse underhill

on june 23 you gave mikes address.
on june 24 we busted you
on june 25 is when you pretended to finally find out it was being shipped to jesse.

Did you call Miss Cleo?
 
It must have been "Miss Cleo" because Ritchie you have once again... NAILED IT ON THE HEAD.

Jon...
June 20th
    I asked you if you knew Jesse Underhill...
June 21st
    You denied knowing anything about Jesse Underhill...
June 23rd
    You provided the Mike shipping address when I asked for
    your address because I had confronted you about living in
    Austin MN
June 25th
    Your friend tells you Jesse Underhill was shipping/receiving
    the boas for you.

So your statement about giving the "Mike" address because you found out it was Jesse is completely FALSE.

July 13th
    You have STILL proven NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING.

A little bit of verifiable proof is all it would take.
 
Ritchie, I wouldn't apologize just yet if a scanned ID showed up.  It would be WAY too easy to scan in an ID and use photoshop to put a new pic and address in.  I'd say that he has to meet with Jeff and bring a state ID card - yes, a state issued ID, not a 'work' ID.  I wouldn't put it past Jesse, if he tries hard enough, to pay someone to meet Jeff with a fake Hormel ID (I wouldn't even know what one would look like, and I'm sure I'm not the only one) and a couple of his snakes.

State issued ID card.  That's what you need.  If you lose a license from DWIs, you can still get an ID card.  You would need it for everything you normally use a license for - cashing checks, buying alcohol, etc.  Are you saying that you don't even have an ID card?  Then get one, and then meet with Jeff.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (April Homich @ July 13 2002,12:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wouldn't put it past Jesse, if he tries hard enough, to pay someone to meet Jeff with a fake Hormel ID (I wouldn't even know what one would look like, and I'm sure I'm not the only one) and a couple of his snakes.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Wouldn't that be kind of cool if I were shown a Spam inspectors card?  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>  Seriously, I will even meet you at the County Seat if you don't have a valid ID and I will pay for it!  Two weeks later I'll meet up again to take a photo of it!
 
Here's another thing..... Jon replied to me when I asked if he knew Jesse Underhill....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We moved here from Kanas City, Jon works for Hormel Foods for the last 14 years he took the Manger job in G.P Mezzing here  </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

So what was your address and phone number in Kansas City?

Where are company records that show you worked for 14 years at Hormel Foods?? Surely there is some kind of record. Manager references/phone numbers. Surely 14 years is long enough to establish an address and a phone number.
 
From a simple browse to www.hormel.com it is easy to see that Hormel foods headquarters is in Austin MN, and that they have a plant in Wichita, Kansas.  

So the scenario is there to back up all you have been saying.  So PLEASE prove who you are and "STOP" this insanity.

Make a believer out of us...

We really want to believe...

Man!!! Whose side am I on? ? ? ?
 
Clay,

It's called giving a man enough rope to hang himself!  I know where the Hormel plants are, but I want Jon to tell us WHERE he worked for fourteen years.  There is NO WAY Jon lived in KC and worked in Witchita, KS (they're ONLY about 3 hours apart)!  However, there is another Hormel office that someone living in KC might work at.  Which one is it Jon?  We're still waiting!
 
I sent him an e-mail and a pm yesterday...telling him not to forget his ID.

I guess he forgot.....AGAIN.

so I will e-mail him everyday...
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ritchie Luna @ July 15 2002,18:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I sent him an e-mail and a pm yesterday...telling him not to forget his ID.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'll meet J&K, Jesse, or anyone else on the forum if they'd like.  I'll buy the beer and bring the camera. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Nobody has anything to lose here.  Give me an email and we'll set things uo.
 
Hell, if you're buying the beer...   <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
 
This post is also on the other J & K Larson thread, but I include it here as well.

I need a little input from you guys and gals.

Although my gut says go ahead and do it I did want to get some feedback from others who are privy to this inquiry/soap opera.

I have sent this email twice (only difference is the added dates) to Jon and Katie Larsons email address.  I have it under good sources that they are in fact reading "other" emails sent to this same address.  Yet mine are being ignored.

This is the email I have been sending to them

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Jon/Jesse/Katie/Mike

I am requesting the return shipping fee AGAIN.  I have previously requested the $30.00 for the return shipping fee for the 2 little boas.  This request was on my original email immediately following discovering you using Jesse Underhill's name and address. Also sent on the 13 of July...and now August 5th.  I again ask for this money to be sent to me as per your initial agreement.

They have been fed once a week since they have been here.  The feeding cost is $1.00 per feeding per boa.  If you do not send the 30.00 asap, I will be forced to sell one or both of the boas, in return to cover the feeding and return shipping costs.  

If I am forced to sell one or both of the boas to recover shipping/feeding costs, understand that they will be wholesaled out locally at a very reduced cost. These boas will not be sold on my website.

According to several sources, you are getting your emails sent to this address, so I will take non-communication as an agreement to settle for my terms.

Best Regards,

-Clay
www.redtailboas.com
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I would think my options are to sell one boa locally, then I will pay to ship the second boa back to Jesse Underhills address.

Please let me know what you guys think...
 
sounds good clay.

besides...I thought they said that they do not disappear like Jesse Underhill Disappears.

Welp at least we now have a record of both their IP numbers.
the laptop and the other computer.

by the way send those IP numbers I sent to you....send them back to me...
my computer crashed and I lost all tracing info on the Larson's/Underhill/jj"sReptiles/awesome boas. etc etc etc
 
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