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Well, I heard from Tony today and he told me that the deposit had been made on the venue and everything was all set......... So for grins and giggles I called the Jamil Temple and was told that the venue was secure for the show on January 7th and 8th and that the deposit indeed had been made and that they had the signed contract in hand. Also advertising has been secured with 2 radio stations in the area and flyers will be going out starting next week. (yep, I checked this too!! LOL)

So, it looks like we are going to have a show!! Now.....who all is coming????
 
Looks like I will be there

Trying to scrape together some nice animals to bring. Getting close to the end of the 2005 babies. I will have most of the dry goods I typically sell and will also be bringing some Ranco thermostats that I have recently added to my list of goodies. Hope to see a lot of vendors and attendees there.
Rich
 
It'll be a last minute registration if I do it. I've done a lot of shipping these past two weeks & will have to do a (lizard)head count as the time grows nearer. But regardless if I go or not, I'd like to wish you all good luck at the show. I'll be gone this weekend, so I'd also like to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a safe & prosperous new year!
Cricket
 
Barring something unforeseen, I will be there. Audry, you better show up!!! (and bring Amanda) ha ha ha
 
Sorry Chuck, but looks like I'll have to sit this one out. I've actually got customers on a waiting list for my chameleons. We might come down & look around, but I won't be vending. Everything that I have old enough is getting shipped this Monday. Hopefully I can find the time to come down & hang out with you.
Cricket
 
Rich,
You still have that 0.1 het albino boa I was looking at in Atlanta?

Any other venders, also looking for:
1.0 adult coach whip
0.1 Ex large eastern and/or black king
1.1 Het albino cottonmouths
1.1 het albino edb
Any extra large copperheads or cottonmouths
 
Well, looks like things are on schedule for the show. Heard several radio ads yesterday and today as well as several live promo spots. Fliers are up around the area. From the looks of it the show is going to go off without a hitch.

Hope to see a bunch of folks there!! :)
 
Well, ticket sales were good, especially considering the low overhead.
How did the vendors do?

Even more importantly, what did the attendees think of the show?
 
Reptile Basics said:
Sales were good, attendance was good, it was well organized and generally a good time. Couldn't ask for much better!


Rich,

You pretty much said it all.......we have nothing to complain about at this end!!
 
SC show

Hello all,

Normally I only read posts here but decided to let you know what I thought of the show.

My family and I went on Sat and over all we enjoyed it. Most the vendors were nice and very helpful with questions. We knew we were going to be getting a leopard gecko and a corn snake but we also ended up getting a Tegu too.

The vendor we got the Tegu from was our only problem with the show. This poor animal was in the worst shape I have personally ever seen. He was in the middle of a shed that wasn't going well for him, he had scrape marks on his face that were obviously infected many scars on his body I assume from bad sheds and burns. He was missing all his front toes to some extent and very very under weight. The vendor who sold him to me stated he had him sense he was a baby at his shop and just wanted to get rid of him. I took that to mean he was the reason this Tegu was in such a poor state. I know the people in charge of the show can't make sure every vendor handles and keeps the animals in the best way possible but seeing a vendor with such an obvious lack of care or concern for his charge defiantly tainted the show for me.

The Tegu (Junkyard is his name because he reminds my husband of a junkyard dog with all his battle scars) is now doing much better. He is in his new home which has more then enough space for him. He has a vet appointment. After a few baths is done with his shed. He has eaten everyday sense we got him and is well on his way to gaining some much needed weight.

Our other two new guys the corn and the leo are also doing great both wonderful creatures purchased from two very nice and obviously caring breeders, both were a pleasure to meet and do business with.

Again over all we enjoyed the show and will go to the next one but I can say I hope not to see the vendor who had our tegu there again. He has no business around animals , they deserve better!
 
Rant rant rant...

This is the main problem I have with reptile shows. The show promoter
has made an effort to reduce that by hiring a vet to inspect the animals at
most of the shows. However, the vets don't catch all the problems,
especiall yin chameleons, which take an experienced eye to diagnose. It's
not always possible for the promoter to inspect all the vendors, and ask
some animals to be removed.

Unfortunatly, people like you are part of the problem. You mean well,
and you know you can save the poor animal from a certain death.
Knowing that there will be either ignorant novices, or compassionate
rescuers attendig the show, some, less scrupulous (or more desparate)
vendors will take otherwise unsellable animals to the shows, in hopes of
cutting their losses.

Now, in no way is this a dig or attack at you - it just comes across as
being negative because I'm not talking to you face to face!

Personally, I am disgusted when a vendor does that. I've been working at
tony's shows, on and off, for just about 10 years. I have goen to him with
my concerns about the health of the animals, and he has done some pretty
good things about it.

Still, I see, at the shows, animals offered for sale, on display, that should
simply not be. I did not see your tegu, but I did see a very sickly and
emaciated monitor lizard, as well as some "about to die" chameleons. In
fact, I was most upset at some otherwise healthy looking veiled
chameleons. They were suffering from shedding problems and had many
toenails torn out or damaged. They are all captive bred, which means that
the injuries are a result of neglect or abuse, not importation.

I alerted to some problems, and he asked the vendors to remove the
animals. If I were the promoter, I woudl be insulted by a vendor
attempting to use my show as a means to sell, to non-suspecting
customers, (who paid good money to come to MY show) animals that are
not healthy, not clean, mistreated, ort simply GOING TO DIE. I work for
Tony at the shows mainly for the experience and networking. Every sick
and emaciated animal in public display, offerd for sale, at a show which I
work at, makes me feel like *I* look bad for enabling it, even the
slightest.

Of course, a lizard with missing toes and obvious pelvis and ribs is a
no-brainer. Chameleons, with cryptic signs of illness are tough, and are
often sold well past the "point of no return". My specialty is chameleons,
and I find the treatemnt they recieve by most vendors to be terrible. It
seems as if most of them understand them to be throw away aniamls,
which will die no matter what they do. So, they keep them, thowing
crickets to them, misting the occationally, and try to sell them before they
die. I have seen some vendors with fresh imports that look great. Good
color, good eyes, good weight, etc. The next show I go to, if the same
animals are unsold ( I remember them), they are often noticably worse
off. It bothers me that vendors will be willing to sell chameleons, but are
not willing to make modest changes to their care to keep the animals
healthy.

The difference between vendors is amazing. If the vendor takes the time
to really water them, like shower them daily - especially on arrival - the
animals will have a much better chance at long term survival. they will
also sell much faster and have fewer problems.

A thing I do not understand, is how a vendor can sell animals that are like
that. Really, I saw a horribly sickly skinny lizard, in a nice, very clean
display, at a nice, reputable vendor's table. All their other animals were
great - some of the best at the show - yet this one was just there, and
ruined their display for me until it was gone.

I dont' know if they all realize how much it hurts their reputations(and that
of a show) when they display a sick animal. Word gets around among
reptile circles.

It's so bad for chameleons, most of the people I deal with online refuse to
attend shows, for they will see esentially nothing but sick and dying
chameleons being bought by ignorant people, being misinformed by
ignorant (or maybe inconsiderate) vendors.

Very few vendors selling chameleons take care of their animals to a
degree I would consider buying from them.
Basically, if the majority of the chameleons you get do not do better the
longer they are in your care, you are not one of them.

Overall, this show had very few sick animals that I noticed. I did not look
around much, as normally I work security overnight, and get to inspect
every single animal close up (I'm a nitpicker, too). I didn't stay there this
time. On display during the show hours, I saw a few very sick imported
chameleons from a few vendors, a sick monitor, a few sick geckos, some
skinny bearded dragons, and an underweight blue tongued skink. Also, a
really skinny tree frog. not too bad, actually.

Sometimes, they can be much worse.

On the other extreme, you have captive bred only shows. Best case you
get nothing but veiled chameleons leopard geckos and beardeds holding up
the lizard end, and ball pythons, corns and kingsnakes representing the
snakes...and that's about 80% of the makeup of the show.
Worst case, you get a good variety, but most is mislabeled as CB, when
it's an import.

I do not like cb only shows all the time, as you need wc stock for
improving your bloodlines, and establishing new species in captivity.
however, vendors must be held to a higher standard.

I hope that tegu does well, and I hope they gave you a break on the price,
too.

Eric A
 
Vessa said:
......I hope not to see the vendor who had our tegu there again. He has no business around animals , they deserve better!


If you care to, there is the BOI section of this website that you can post that particular vendor's name and the problem. That way other folks can steer clear of that vendor at shows (and their store) if they so wish.

You can also send an email to the show promoter and let him know what vendor it was and what the problem was.
 
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