Thanks for the heads up, I'm terrified to see what happens tomorrow.
When did this happen? I hadn't seen anything about that.
When did this happen? I hadn't seen anything about that.
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Constrictor Rule Comment Open
- Thread starter Arachno
- Start date
Dums, rainbow boas, Papuan pythons, Olive pythons...Are you aware how long it takes to produce dumerils? I do … 9 months. However, if this does come to fruition, my dum babies will go up in price.
From the discussions I've been seeing in the boa groups this has been in the works for a while but isn't a done deal... yet. I prefer to work more with the pure locality lines, which will be a PITA if BCI are added to the list as I think I'm the only one in my state doing so. That makes for a tiny gene pool.
Ditto.
Herps Alive!
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They have corrected their reporting, which means the leaker said you got it wrong. AKA we are listing some but not all.
Also interesting that the Ashe-hole (Director of FWS) did not publish today, prior to the announcement.
My gut is saying boas will remain exempt. I am hopeful on retics.
Snake-Queen
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A few months ago I believe, Warren Booth mentioned it in a posting on FB.
From the discussions I've been seeing in the boa groups this has been in the works for a while but isn't a done deal... yet. I prefer to work more with the pure locality lines, which will be a PITA if BCI are added to the list as I think I'm the only one in my state doing so. That makes for a tiny gene pool.
From my understanding, all BCIs are now BI ... including locality based lines, ie Hog Island, Costa Rican, Sonoran, Nicaraguan, etc.
I'm not on FB, is there something else out there about this? Everything I see still lists as BCi. Personally I don't see why they would merit the reclassification but I'm no expert of course. lol
I wonder how long before we hear what is being announced today. Still keeping fingers crossed they leave it as is and don't add anymore species.
HerpVenue
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should have been announced already.
okay here we go, looks like all but boas WERE added
http://www.fws.gov/verobeach/InvasiveSpecies.html
March 6, 2015
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Service) today declared the reticulated python, DeSchauensee’s anaconda, green anaconda and Beni anaconda as “injurious” under the Lacey Act. A fifth snake, the boa constrictor, is removed from consideration for listing as an injurious wildlife species.
The listing will prohibit import of the four snakes into the United States and its territories, as well as transport across state lines for snakes already in the country, and is intended to help restrict the snakes’ spread in the wild. Following opportunities for public comment, an economic analysis and an environmental assessment, the Service produced the final rule, which is expected to publish in the Federal Register March 10. The prohibitions in the rule will go into effect 30 days after publication and apply to live individuals, gametes, viable eggs or hybrids of the four snakes.
http://www.fws.gov/verobeach/InvasiveSpecies.html
March 6, 2015
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Service) today declared the reticulated python, DeSchauensee’s anaconda, green anaconda and Beni anaconda as “injurious” under the Lacey Act. A fifth snake, the boa constrictor, is removed from consideration for listing as an injurious wildlife species.
The listing will prohibit import of the four snakes into the United States and its territories, as well as transport across state lines for snakes already in the country, and is intended to help restrict the snakes’ spread in the wild. Following opportunities for public comment, an economic analysis and an environmental assessment, the Service produced the final rule, which is expected to publish in the Federal Register March 10. The prohibitions in the rule will go into effect 30 days after publication and apply to live individuals, gametes, viable eggs or hybrids of the four snakes.
HerpVenue
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4 of 5 added
Boas are safe for now.
I guess this year I make baby boas instead of feeders nakes. SMFH
Still does not make sense. They are already outlawed in Florida. Why outlaw from the rest of the states.
Edited to say:
April beat me to it
Boas are safe for now.
I guess this year I make baby boas instead of feeders nakes. SMFH
Still does not make sense. They are already outlawed in Florida. Why outlaw from the rest of the states.
Edited to say:
April beat me to it
HerpVenue
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So unfortunate.
i have friends heavily invested in the other species. Hopefully the lawsuit can reverse the damage.
i have friends heavily invested in the other species. Hopefully the lawsuit can reverse the damage.
CombatWombat
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CombatWombat
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1565911103656778/
We also started a group on Facebook to try and unite all those affected by these laws.
We also started a group on Facebook to try and unite all those affected by these laws.
Snake-Queen
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I'm not on FB, is there something else out there about this? Everything I see still lists as BCi. Personally I don't see why they would merit the reclassification but I'm no expert of course. lol
I wonder how long before we hear what is being announced today. Still keeping fingers crossed they leave it as is and don't add anymore species.
I know I kept a link, looking for it now.
I feel for my friends ... this decision is crap.
freedumbdclxvi
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Well, that sucks. Now, i need to scramble to find funds to get some of the island locales i have wanted to pick up. 30 dang days.
USARK will be amending its complaint first thing Monday morning and then filing an injunction so that FWS can't enforce the new regulation until after the case has concluded. If the judge approves the injunction then it would be at least a year, most likely longer as the federal court system moves slowly, before the rule would take effect (assuming USARK loses the court battle).Well, that sucks. Now, i need to scramble to find funds to get some of the island locales i have wanted to pick up. 30 dang days.
Night10gail
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I've been urging people to get their hands on a pair of any of the banned species so that they can keep the animals circulating in the pet trade of their state. It won't make you money and you'll actually likely have problems getting rid of offspring, but you may make some new anaconda/retic lover's day by having them available even if only occasionally.
Snake-Queen
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That would be a good thing.
I just added a female retic this week and as soon as I can get the logistical issues worked out for QT I'm getting a male.
coolbord9
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This sucks. My local reptile group is laughing/celebrating and shitting on anyone who is less than thrilled with the ban, or who thinks other reptiles will come next. Super depressing to see reptile people attacking the hobby like that. I hope that my area isn't indicative of the average herp keepers attitude towards these legislative/exectuive acts...