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Don't try to give me a genetics lesson... an APTOR is an albino, hence you breed it to an albino you get an albino...
 
groovygeckos said:
And since they are not morphs (just yet) what about Hets? (Het Albino, Het APTOR/RAPTOR,Het Blazing, etc. etc.)
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Above is your statement that I questioned. I bolded the parts that I was questioning. Het Albino and Het Blazing (Blazing Blizzard I'm assuming you meant) are Recessive mutations and are not expressed in the Heterozygous state.

I think you need a genetics lesson to understand what you were talking about in the original post I was referring to. Now, if you were referring to het APTOR/RAPTOR/Snow/etc. that is a different story of course.

However, you said Het Albino and Het Blazing, which are not Co Dominant or Dominant mutations.
 
GroovyGeckos - I apologize if my post at 03:29 was harsh...I had thought you were the one getting haughty with me. :) I hadn't thought to look at the username of the reply!
 
*raises eyebrow* My original post was right beneath the one I was questioning...Can't get more specific then that (unless of course I specifically wrote Groovy Geckos...but common sense tells me that the post prior to mine would be in reference to my question)...
 
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WHAT???? NO PATTERNLESS??????????????????

:ack2:

Tony
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Here's an awesome patternless for you Tony:











If you look closely for about 10 minutes you will see it move, it is very chameleonish in it's ability to camoflage.
 
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Here's an awesome patternless for you Tony:











If you look closely for about 10 minutes you will see it move, it is very chameleonish in it's ability to camoflage.
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I SAW IT, i SAW IT MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

:scatter:

Tony
 
My reason for saying Hets, is there are some Hets out there that are far from normal. Carrottails Het for Albino strains, Blizzard, Patternless etc. Theres more and thats my point. Just check these out! ( a Het RAPTOR X Red Stripe and a Het RAPTOR) Heehee :raspberry
 

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groovygeckos said:
My reason for saying Hets, is there are some Hets out there that are far from normal. Carrottails Het for Albino strains, Blizzard, Patternless etc. Theres more and thats my point.
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In a photo contest, it wouldn't matter what they were het for. A carrottail het for Albino looks like a carrottail. A carrottail het for Blizzard, still looks like a carrottail. A carrottail het for Patternless, you guessed it, still looks like a carrottail!
 
Yep! But my point is, do you just enter a Het as a CT or as a Het? What about a Red Stripe Het Albino? Does a Het APTOR get entered into the APTOR-class? Like I said there are more, Im just not typing them all out.

Like with the Macks, yes the 'Snow' is the Het, and there is a class for them. But there are Het Snowbinos, and many other types of Hets nowadays.

Do we just lump them all together because they look the same? Not when they all hold different genetics and possibilities, not IMO.

Say I have a Red Stripe Het Tremper and Jeremy has his Het RW Red Stripes, do we just say they are all Red Stripes when what they will produce is something completely different? Maybe, possibly, I dunno for sure, but I dont think so.

Stephanie, I was asking John since this was his idea. But Thanks for the 'lesson'. Trust me there is nothing you are telling me I do not know allready. :) So please dont waste your time picking over my question to John ? :)

Theres a class for SHCT and a class for Hybino, what about one for a "Het Hybino"? (SHCT Het Albino) Or do they just go into the SHCT class? Again I was asking John, as this was his idea, and he is the one that knows what he wants.

There was no class for Stripes, Jungles, or Reverse Stripes :shrug01:. So there was no place to enter a Jungle or Stripe that is Het for Albino. Thats what I mean.
 
I do agree their should be a class for Jungle, Stripe, Reverse Stripes and Aberrants.

However, it still makes absolutely no sense why it would matter what a gecko was het for if it's a PHOTO contest. You can't SEE what an individual is het for, so why would it matter in a PHOTO contest? Why would their be specific categories for hets? Their would be no point. This is being made a lot more difficult then it would need to be. It is absolutely ridiculous. Why would you submit a het for Albino in an Albino category? A het for Albino isn't an Albino.

:no01: I swear, no common sense. It's really not the difficult. He explained in his first post what he wanted to do. Why attempt to make it more complicated? What do you think's going to win...An Albino in an Albino category, and or het Albino in an Albino category? :no01:
 
That is why I asked if it is for best photo, OR gecko/color, etc. of that 'class'? It didnt really say that much so how would I just assume.

I have some nice animals, but do not get the best of pics. This is also my point for asking. Someone may have THE best animal, and have an awful camera or vice versa. It makes a big difference to know are we talking quality of the photo, or of the animal. And what I did not get from the original post, so I asked John .

Really no need to get insulting with me, until the first (above question) has been answered, I really do not know. I have not seen John answer as to what it is for. My guess is because you are bickering with Gene and now myself when it was not directed to, or asked of you to begin with? :) Jeez :rofl:
 
groovygeckos said:
I have some nice animals, but do not get the best of pics. This is also my point for asking. Someone may have THE best animal, and have an awful camera or vice versa. It makes a big difference to know are we talking quality of the photo, or of the animal. And what I did not get from the original post, so I asked John .
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Without a good photo, how do you judge the quality of an animal? By the breeders word?

Really no need to get insulting with me, until the first (above question) has been answered, I really do not know. I have not seen John answer as to what it is for. My guess is because you are bickering with Gene and now myself when it was not directed to, or asked of you to begin with? :) Jeez :rofl:
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My original post on here was a question as to why a het would be put into a homo class. Your original post was completely confusing, which is why I asked for clarification. I am entitled to that, thank you. Gene had posted a reply (which again made no sense for a photo contest) and I thought it was you replying (hadn't thought to look at the poster name).

Now...My next question...How do you verify that a particular animal is het for a mutation? Breeding trials. How are you going to prove in a photo contest that a particular gecko is het for a mutation? Your word? That would mean anyone could throw whatever they wanted into a particular class and say it was het for whatever they wanted.
 
Just realized where you were wrong in your assumption.
An Albino in an Albino category, and or het Albino in an Albino category?
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Didnt say to put a Het Albino in an Albino category, that would be where a Het Albino, APTOR, RAPTOR, Hybino etc. category would come in.

Perhaps I did not word it the way I should have, and honestly I did not ask for someone to pick apart my words.

There is after all a non-Super Mack category and they are merely Hets themselves. If we have a Het Snow category, shouldnt there be a other categories for some of the different and new types of Hets?

And Thanks for the insults! :ack2:
 
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