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Culmination of 3 years and a Curiousity...

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Hatched tonight, the first blazing blizzard out of my own lines. Right from the originals through the hets and out.. and also a curiousity I want some opinions on now that he's grown some. First comes the Blazing Blizzard. His name is Invierno (Means Winter in a few languages)
Please don't mind the picture sizes...

My first Blazing Blizzard and even he's slightly abnormal with pure white small bands behind his head and around his tail.. Its wierd but there is NO doubt this is a blazing blizzard. I am so stoked. Wasn't going to take pics till morning but I couldn't help it. I've got one more to come out too.. and I still can't believe this little one came out tonight.... I'm gonna be staring at him forever...Anyway, enough of the talking.. onto the pics for you all...

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And now, the curiousity, coming out of the same parents as my blazing blizzard did though this one was born first.

The more I look and watch.....

the more my 2 odd "blizzards" start to appear very much like the patternless snows Geckos etc produced regardless of what genetics they should be... Comparison pic time for everyone.. *L* I posted when he was first hatched for opinions.. but he does NOT look like a banana blizzard in the least. I've looked at them... You can see the differences readily. Opinions from everyone are welcome... on both hatchlings. The only genetics I'm unsure of completely would be in my founding stock which came from Hisss.net and the albino I used for my hets who I picked up in a petshop for $25 and she turned out to be a tang albino carrying some wierd genetics...

Couple days after he was born

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Now, at a couple weeks old:

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And taken yesterday:

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Lucien said:
Hatched tonight, the first blazing blizzard out of my own lines. Right from the originals through the hets and out.. and also a curiousity I want some opinions on now that he's grown some. First comes the Blazing Blizzard. His name is Invierno (Means Winter in a few languages)
Please don't mind the picture sizes...

My first Blazing Blizzard and even he's slightly abnormal with pure white small bands behind his head and around his tail.. Its wierd but there is NO doubt this is a blazing blizzard.
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I agree, that first one is unusual looking to say the least. I wonder, though, why you're positive this is a blazing blizzard? I've never seen any blizzards with banding, so my initial guess would have been a very faintly patterned albino with stunning red eyes.

The blizzard looks pretty normal to me, but I haven't seen a very young blizzard in a while, so I could be wrong.

Good luck with them. I'd like to see pics of these as they grow up.
 
Is there any way you could get a clearer picture of the eyes on the first one? They do look very red. Do you see any kind of pupil (slit) in the eyes or are they solid red?
thanks
 
THe second pic looks like a normal blizzard to me, and the first pic welll.... not 100% sure but doesnt look like a blazing blizzard more so a jungle albino with red eyes.
 
The reason I'm certain the one is a blazing blizzard is that I've already got a perfectly good looking albino out of this pairing. The first gecko pictured, the one with the faint white banding, red eyes and pink body is a blazing blizzard. There is no yellow to him.. only the faint white markings and that overall pink color. Its my belief this is due to him only being 6 hours old when the pics were taken and that the markings will leave. His eyes are pure red....

The second leo pictured is one of 2 I've hatched out of my supposed dbl. het project. I've hatched regular blizzard babies before... those pictures of the white one with the pattern on its head are progression pics, showing a slow reduction of that pigment on his head from just born to months old... Regular blizzards are born with no pattern whatsoever. I've never seen a baby pic of a blizzard with any pattern to its head or neck.. and there isn't enough of a pattern there for him to be just a patternless... I made a whole post about this before but I wanted to show the progression pics. I have something seriously odd going on in my genetic lines and I'm trying to figure out what it is... There is no question the one is a blazing blizzard though and I'm almost positive the banding will fade with a bit of time. If he were an albino, he'd have yellow on him somewhere. The one pic where he appears to.. is just a reflection of the flash...he has no yellow. The first 5 pics are one animals and the curiousity post is another animal. There's only 2 animals pictured...just at different stages for the one. Anyway, this is the albino that came out of the pairing. ALL of these are from a single pairing...one male one female that appear normal.....that I also hatched from a mating between a tang albino I picked up in a petshop and a blizzard I also bred myself.

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Well what ever it is, those red eyes are amazing. You may just have to wait
and do some test crosses when he/she grows up.

Wayne
 
I see a light colored Albino, and possibly a Banana Blizzard. Here is why
Regular blizzards are born with no pattern whatsoever. I've never seen a baby pic of a blizzard with any pattern to its head or neck.. and there isn't enough of a pattern there for him to be just a patternless...
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Either way you have an exciting project ahead of you, man I wish I had more money/space for geckos!
 
Hi there,
Beautiful geckos!! All of them :thumbsup: I agree that really doesn't look like a blazing blizzard hatchling. You did say that the 2nd "odd" blizzard, from the same parents," looked alot like the patternless snows and I agree that it's different, but as soon as I saw the pic of the albino, (before reading the caption), I thought it was a mack albino. There for in my opinion it looks like you may be working with macks. :)
 
They are beautiful little ones!!! This is just my opinion, but I am not certain that the first one is a blazing. All hatchling blazing's I've ever seen do not look like albinos in any way. I hatched a blazing from hets last summer, and he looked very much like a light/pale blizzard but had albino eyes.

The second baby looks to me to be a blizzard with a unique head pattern. I have seen many hatch like that, and no two of them look alike. They do, however, all have varying degrees of dark grey patterning on their heads and some all the way down their backs.

I must say though, that you've got some interesting genetics going on, and it will be easy to prove them out by breeding them back to the het parent and see what pops up!

Here is a pic of a blazing blizzard at about 2 months (sorry, no eye pics):
 

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I guess all I can do is wait and see then.. because these guys are definately odd. I'm actually slightly frustrated. I spent 3 years working on dbl hets and end up with some odd genetics that don't allow me to get what I want.. however, I will fall over from a heart attack if they prove to be snows of some sort and the one an albino snow..because the original female that would be the one carrying it.. cost me $25.. in a petshop of no repute.. languishing there for 6 months when I found her... So far all of them have turned out something odd... no normal looking ones at all... the 2 that look like the "odd blizzard" and the one that has the faint white marking on it but the rest is like a blazing blizzard... and then the albino which I expected but now I don't think I want to let it go if its carrying all these genes as well... I had one other but he was a big-time premie and died a week after hatching...and he was black as all hell... wierd looking gecko... I've got some great buys in the past but if that tang albino female was carrying the co-dom for snow....wow.. the idea blows me away entirely...
 
I had one other but he was a big-time premie and died a week after hatching...and he was black as all hell
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pretty interesting. Do you have pictures of this baby?
Maybe it was a realy dark Super Snow?
I hope for you, that this crazy albino will grow fast so we all can see how it turns out and you can go on with testbreeding.
 
If you ask me the one in the first pic looks like a premature albino thats pigment has not fully developed yet..... Nothing blazing blizzard about it.....

Also I have serious doubts that it is snow anything....

I am not trying to burst your bubble at all.... I just think you might be grasping at straws and looking too deep into things....
 
Ive heard that breeding a dbl het X dbl het isn't really a 1/16, it more like a 1/100 because its a lot harder. Look at the bells, no bell patty yet or no bell blazing yet.
 
DH X DH does give you a 1 in 16 chance(I think, for each egg) however it does not translate to you hatching 1 for every 16 eggs that are laid.

Kelli (HISSS) has the only known Bell Blazing Blizzard.

Patternless Albinos and Blazing Blizzards were not easy to come by.
 
No, not really. You said you heard it wasnt really a 1/16, but it is. That is the probability for each egg(or clutch?). The actual outcomes are/can be different, but that is still the probability for DH X DH. Unfortunately it does not mean that you will hatch 1/16. :hehe: Lame, huh?
 
Im sure Sean knows what he is talking about. But I think he means the outcome is 1/200. 1/16 is still the 'chance' for each egg, or clutch though.

It is a little confusing
 
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