Dan Felice...EXTORTION..LIES ...HARRASSMENT and BIG THANK YOU TO THE PA. POLICE !!!!

[cyberfrog]

IMO this thread will get nowhere until the emails are posted in their entirety. If they can be emailed to anyone that wants them, why not post them. Until then all we have is he said she said crap.

 

[DAND]

Wes thats last post was not meant for you but for David Gruning. Seems he knows who I am talking about.

David I have been reading a lot of your other posts and I think you are a complete retard, go light yourself on fire.

Panties all knotted up huh Rainer? All I did was post a screen shot of Dan's last activity and a few smilies replying to your whining, and I'm a retard who should go light myself on fire huh? Then what would you call and suggest someone to do for someone who was stupid enough to fall for Dan's (alleged-since proof is yet to be seen) crap?

 

[critical bill]

I have given my word not to speak about what Dan said in his emails, and I am a woman of my word, and will not do so.

We just asked you to confirm whether or not Dan impersonated a cop and threatened Justin. No one asked you to repeat what was in the emails.

I believe justice will not be done here until Justin posts what he sent to me and others via private email, and there is nothing to stop him from doing so. I do believe that the BOI was not created so that people could send secret emails around to hurt each others reputations, this is a forum of truth not a playground to assassinate the characters of others without showing why you are doing so. If you come on here with a charge against another, it is less than forthcoming to refuse to post your evidence.

Well he sent the emails to me and there is a REAL INCIDENT REPORT about this Lucille. Its under investigation. It has an investigation number assigned to it along with a real Detectives name and badge number who is dealing with the incident. Justin was advised not to post the emails as its still under investigation.

Again, I am not taking sides, I have always been one for truth and honesty; I believe that the evidence should be brought to light and the good people of Fauna should have the opportunity to exercise their own good judgments.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...........BLAH.

Up for auction I have one of Dans used socks..............

 

[bluerosy]

Justin
I think you are smart enough allow law enforcment to handle this siutuation and NOT post anything here on this thread to jeopardize the investigation.

In the mean time Dan Felice can post any denials he has. This will at least make him look more innocent in the interim.

 

[Zoo Supply]

I had the same problem

I have gone through the same thing, when I caught someone stealing from me, presented all the evidence, even booking photos and was told that "that just means he was arrested for the crimes, not that he committed them."
You will always have people that are skeptical, just take it with a grain of salt. Sometimes they just wanna start something, sometimes their points are jaded, sometimes they are justified in their questions.

Either way, its part of the territory. Post as much info as possible and back it up with as much proof as you can.

TOM

 

[reptilebreeder]

All I got to say (at least until the e-mails can be posted), after catching up on all the related threads is, I'm glad I'm not into Indigos.

Lucille, you may think you are not taking sides, but if those e-mails are as bad as people are implying (threats, impersonating law enforcement), then by not at least acknowledging that is wrong on Dan's part, then you are taking sides, because no matter what transpired, if he did do that....bad, bad, bad. JMHO

 

[Lucille]

We just asked you to confirm whether or not Dan impersonated a cop and threatened Justin. No one asked you to repeat what was in the emails.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...........BLAH.

If I said anything, it would lend or take away credence to the emails. I am not taking sides, and I am NOT going against a promise even by implication.

I am disappointed in your attitude, Chuck. I come here saying that the truth is what counts; and that is what I feel.

 

[ravensgait]

Lucille I wont try to read anything into any of your comments here or think that you are implying anything one way or the other. But I do wonder why,after others have seen the emails and confirmed that Dan said he was a cop and made threatening remarks in these email, I do wonder why you couldn't have commented on those two points IE if they were true or not?

I'll put it plainly you asked for the emails so you could confirm the story. So either Dan wrote these things in emails or he didn't which is it? Do those emails alone make him look like a bad Guy?

Dan has been here seen the thread and has yet to make any comment which if past experience here on the BOI is any indication he has something to hide. You stepped in to try and find out the truth about someone you know and we don't. It's Dan's choice not to defend himself here.
Randy

 

[Lucille]

I will say this one last time: I was specifically asked not to comment on the emails, and I will honor that promise. People write all sorts of things to me here on Fauna in confidence, they do so because I have the reputation of keeping my word.

There are many who now apparently have the email (and I am not sure exactly why this is no less a publication as far as the PD goes) but I am bound by honor, and my word. If anyone reading does not ken that concept, I cannot help them; but I do help many that come to me because they know I respect their privacy.

 

[ravensgait]

Unless I'm reading this wrong

since this is still considered ongoing by Fort Worth PD I am not going to post the emails in a public forum until I run it by them...but I will email you his emails and I trust you will repect this and not post them until this is done. I have seen many of your post and you seem very open minded and fair.

Or am not privy to some other conversation you have had with Justin about this. All he seems to ask is that you not post the emails. I don't see anything here to bar you from confirming what he has said in this thread or giving your take on the emails. Randy

 

[The BoidSmith]

Justin’s post:

since this is still considered ongoing by Fort Worth PD I am not going to post the emails in a public forum until I run it by them...but I will email you his emails and I trust you will repect this and not post them until this is done. I have seen many of your post and you seem very open minded and fair.

Lucille’s post:

I will of course respect a request of that nature; please forward the emails to me.

Lucille’s next post:

Justin, my word is my bond and I will absolutely respect the promise I made you, but I REALLY think you need to publish the emails you sent me.

I do think that whether the PD is involved or not, that speaking the truth is always appropriate and since you have put your experience on the board and others seem to be corroborating with a similar experience, the reptile community and the function of this board would be best served by the proofs of the emails that you have.

Am I missing something here? Where is Lucille taking sides? From what I read she is even encouraging Justin to post those e-mails, and as she promised , she is making no comments on them. What Lucille is doing is honoring her word, nothing more nothing less. Some people have “honored” their word by not revealing where a known scammer was hiding, but that's a completely different story.

There’s probably just one bad guy here. Let’s not try to fabricate another one just out of boredom or because we can’t yet give publicity to those e-mails. Let’s wait for the facts. The minute we believe our way is the "right" way, all other ways will be wrong. That's the way prejudice works, and prejudice is a great time saver as it enables us to form impressions without getting all the facts (sarcasm just in case someone didn’t notice it!). Whenever Justin decides he can post facts, we can go from there. Dan we are all ears…well, in this case eyes

Regards.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Dan sent me the following email:

i haven't read it but you're probably referring to the guy i said kept my money last week? i don't know what happened there but the money showed up in monday's mail so i'm satisfied. how you been? any new critters?...........dan

Just a point folks:

First, Justin is a friend of mine so i am not unbiased in this. Just wanted to get that out up front. I have read the Emails and the claims of being an officer and physical threats are 100% legitamate.

However, has anyone really looked at the quote above from Dan? All it says is that the money showed up on Monday. That could just as easily be read to mean that his original payment was, for some reason, undeliverable and was returned to him.

Regardless, his behaviour in the Emails was completely uncalled for

 

[critical bill]

I am disappointed in your attitude, Chuck. I come here saying that the truth is what counts; and that is what I feel.

Lucille, you read the same emails I did. The truth is plain as day. A detective doesnt open a criminal investigation unless there is sufficient evidence. Period. One was opened. Your bud is in hot water. He wont defend himself because he cant. This weasel harrased, threatened, intimidated, and attempted to extort money from Justin multiple times. All while impersonating a police officer.

Face the facts. Your bud Dano isnt PD. He's EDP. Emotionally Disturbed Person. And I wont take your disappointment to heart. I know with you being a nurse you might have a soft spot for a sick individual like this. To me he's as useless as a poopy flavored lollipop.

 

[critical bill]

I will say this one last time: People write all sorts of things to me here on Fauna in confidence, they do so because I have the reputation of keeping my word.

Yep. As it shows with Dan.....even the bad guys can confide in you.

 

[ravensgait]

Dan not trying to nit pik here but she only agreed that she would not post them. I don't think anyone and certainly not myself are trying to make Lucille out to be in any way shape or form a bad gal. Randy

 

[Jim O]

Ummm...people, this thread is not about Lucille. She gave her word and she is honoring it the best that she knows how. Let it go. She is not the bad guy here.

Enough other people have confirmed the content of the e-mails that there seems little doubt. That she feels honor bound not to discuss the content is actually admirable. Who wouldn't want someone to err on the side of discretion when it came to their personal information?

 

[Chameleon Company]

I have lots of respect for Lucille, but I'm going to have to agree with her critics here. The post by Lucille that seemed to cast doubt on the credibility of the complaints of others was back when, after getting a communication from Dan and putting a bit of credence in it, she concluded that "there is more here than meets the eye". While that is possible, it certainly is not substantiated by a side communication from Dan, especially after having reviewed some serious evidence against him, and having had it confirmed by another poster who had a similar experience. If there is "more here" then Dan could have come on down and righted all the wrongs against him, which are serious, and if in error, he should have been screaming in here at the top of his lungs. Your comment Lucille didn't "take sides", but it did undermine evidence as presented, and which you were especially privy to. Your comment, as neutral is it may have seemed to you, was a pull away from the credibility of others. I have no problem with the emails not being publicly posted, and have your word, and those of others who have seen them, that they are as summarized. It was a bad assumption on your part that there was "more than meets the eye", and if it wasn't an assumption, then please show more than a note from Dan as implying such, and realize that Danny can come here and defend himself with direct evidence. Lucille, you are a true asset to this site, but go back and look at your post again ..... let he who is without fault cast the first stone, and I'm so black and blue ... only cold beer eases the pain!

Jim Flaherty
The Chameleon Company LLC

 

[critical bill]

That she feels honor bound not to discuss the content is actually admirable.

No one asked her to reveal any personal information. She was aked to confirm if what Justin posted regarding Dan's behavior was as it was stated in the emails she received. Thats it. Her refusal to provide a yes or no coupled with her statement that there is more to this story than what meets the eye has me feeling something slightly less than admiration.

 

[Jim O]

Chuck,

We can agree to disagree but I would point out that she made that statement without passing judgement. One could surmise that it is actually *worse* than what was posted here but people have jumped on the bandwagon that she is supporting to the purported bad guy and I don't read it that way.

Often people get crucified here for not posting details. It's not up to Lucille to confirm or refute or answer anyone's questions about a third party communication. If people have questions as to the content of the e-mails they should be directed at the two parties involved, Justin and Dan. Justin has chosen not to share the e-mails publicly and that is surely his right. It's not Lucille's job to do his work for him. Frankly if it was me I would not have posted half a story with no supporting documentation. I would have let the law do it's thing and then posted the entire story. But that was Justin's choice, not Lucille's and I understand that he may have wanted to post a "heads up" now so no one else gets taken. I'm not criticizing Justin's choice but merely pointing out that it is the reason for this discussion of Lucille's choice. If it was me, unless given explicit permission by Justin to do so, I would have answered no questions either. I would have said, "ask Justin".

 

[reptilebreeder]

Ummm...people, this thread is not about Lucille. She gave her word and she is honoring it the best that she knows how. Let it go. She is not the bad guy here.

Enough other people have confirmed the content of the e-mails that there seems little doubt. That she feels honor bound not to discuss the content is actually admirable. Who wouldn't want someone to err on the side of discretion when it came to their personal information?

In her first post where she asks that the e-mails be sent to her, it appeared, at least to me that she was a neutral bystander. The OP said he would send them, but aksed her not to post or directly quote them. She then posts again, and includes an e-mail from Dan (second party "defendant" TOS violation?), and also states "there is more going on here" or something to that effect. In addition it turns out Dan is a "friend". It just seems not too neutral from my point of view. She feels it neccessary to make statements and post e-mails that seem to "imply" that there may be something "fishy" about this, and there may be, but it seems more slanted toward the OP than to Dan or neutral, especially when you consider that, if the e-mails are as bad as alleged, she could have at least "implied" that Dan's actions were wrong (without going back on her word). "I feel there is more to the story, yet Dan's actions are uncalled for" or something to that effect.
Now like many of us here, I've always been a big supporter of Lucille, and I still am, but I feel that her posts are not neutral (as she is proclaiming in her defense), even if I set aside her excuse for "ignoring" the actions of Dan in the original e-mails.