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Dan scalaro (Ben Siegal employee) bad guy

Yes I made the Mistake of sending him a coral via ground mail.

Another way to say this would be "Yes I committed a felony and risked the lives of mail carriers by sending him a coral via ground mail."
Your whole "bad guy" post is laughable because what you did is way more serious than anything you've accused Dan of doing.
If Dan was aware you were doing this than he's just as bad.
 
that would be a good way of putting it.

Yup, could not argue that fact..... That is definitly one way to put it... Hell, should prolly be the only way... Lesson learned... & believe you me.. Dan requested sevral times that it be shipped this way no harm done as long as it is packed right,that he does it all the time... So he caught a fish and I sent him it that way.... What can I say that has not already been said...? Im only human Im entitled to a mistake or 2...... Mike Clark.
 
TopShelfExotics said:
I would highly suggest a moderator remove bens name from the title of this forum thread.

Sorry, but that is not going to happen. Any moderator who were to edit a posting of another person becomes an author of those words written, and therefore legally liable if this blows up into a court case. I have often edited good guy posts, because the risk of liability is minimal, but bad guy posts are going to stay "as is".

Besides, the guy spelled Ben's last name wrong anyway.....
 
indeed i did...

I caught onto the spelling of his name after it was to late... I believe I spelt Dan's last name wrong.. My bad... Pe@ce to all. Mike Clark.
 
A few days ago, I informed Serpentboy that I would post his fraud on the Board of Inquiry. As such, perhaps its not clear to the readers, but it is all to obvious to me, that the only reason Serpentboy initiated his post was to hopefully hide his actions from future consumers if they did a search on the BOI about Serpentboy.

If someone is able to link this information or if I need to create a post to notify interested parties or consumers about his fraud, please let me know.

As for some of the other posts made on this thread, it does not shock me how decent honest people can be misled from reading false statements and lies, however you are only feeding fuel and permitting him to be successful in his treachery. I have nothing to loose or gain in this matter and no one really knows whom I am, or cares who I am. But in these circumstances, I was simply his customer and he sent a dead snake for trade, plain and simple, and he admitted to sending the dead snake.

I guess I am getting too old to tolerate these types of criminals who are in the position to care for innocent reptiles, but after serving many years in the military, several years in Asia and Europe, and retiring as a Lieutenant Commander, I find it difficult to deal with unsavory reptile characters. This is especially after living amongst the poor and unfortunate who could not get a job or even sufficient food because there was no economy established. Forgive me if this seems brazen but my honesty can be attested to the four Commendation Medals I was awarded for my dedication and contributions while serving my country. And believe me, my associates in Washington DC are presently investigating Serpentboy.

Some issues are not clear to some who found is necessary to inquire or comment on irrelevant matters vice focusing on the fraud of Serpentboy. Some may have assumed or gathered that I am a reptile dealer partially from what was mentioned about my recent part-time employment. I am not a reptile dealer, never was a reptile dealer, and never will be a reptile dealer. I have never sold one single snake on a personal basis. And I never was involved in the mail order sales at the professional level as my interests and dedication was only towards the healthcare of the reptiles by ensuring they received the most attention they deserve. As to the inferences made by some about the shipping of the snake: I have never shipped a single reptile to anyone before the snakes I mailed to Serpentboy. And I never shipped any reptile at the professional level. I have also never received the shipment of any snake, much less venomous, prior to and following the transaction with Serpentboy. And I do not plan to ship, sell, or receive any shipments of any reptiles. I have traded a few surplus snakes to friends, but that surmises it all.

As far as inquires and comments about carriers are concerned, I understand that there are several carriers available that offer services for overnight shipment and next-day delivery regardless of the toxicity of the reptile, so why interested people are commenting about this is irrelevant. I am no expert on the subject and Serpentboy assured that he would send the snake in a secure manner with an appropriate shipper and container. And if he decided to do so with UPS and did not inform them of the items in his shipment, then it only adds to the fact that this kid is unstable and willing to take such risks for a buck over the health of other human beings. However such, I received the dead snake in a cardboard box. I have four children and too many responsibilities to be catching every idiot who wants to jump from a bridge. If someone has the time to straighten him out, then more power to him or her, but the kid is not willing to be reformed, so the effort would be useless. He will continue with lies and misinformation and every word and every aspect of all his comments are lies and misleading.

I cannot reply to all conjecture and speculation from people who are commenting on issues without having all the details and facts in front of them to study for a period of time, nor do I want to write a book about it. If anyone wishes to discuss this further, you can email me and I can provide my phone number. However I would like to be informed if someone has or is able to link the criminal acts of Serpentboy to search of his name in the BOI.
 
lol... fraud... friends in dc

I must admit you sure do have a way with words Dan. Please post or tell when and where i admited sending you a dead snake... I highly doubt you can provide that... Oh wait it must be on the recorded phone conversations we had right.. Come on man... So u served in the military and.....? You said in one of ur many moronic emails that my a** is grass... So you got the cia in dc watching me... The world is @ war and ur buddies r gonna stop and investigate me huh...? LOL... You keep claiming fraud,what fraud...? I paid for the animals I got.. you can try to cover up ur lies and wanna be not knowing the you pleaded with me to ship via ground... how else would I have ur home addy... and not ur airports... So you can flip flop things all you want with ur fancy military talk... As I have said 100x now only u and I know the truth.... So y dont you speak it... Im thru with this fiction book we r writing here.... tell ur Buddies in DC I said get off their A**es and go find Osama..... [email protected]...
 
This thread is pathetic. Either of you have not produced one shread of evidence to back up either claim.

Mike,

How did you pay for the snakes? If it was a money order, scan the stub and post the pic. It will also help if you would post ALL of the emails in their entirity.

Dan,

How about posting the pics of the snake showing it dead?

Dan Scolaro said:
As far as inquires and comments about carriers are concerned, I understand that there are several carriers available that offer services for overnight shipment and next-day delivery regardless of the toxicity of the reptile, so why interested people are commenting about this is irrelevant.

It is absolutely not irrelevant. The ONLY approved and LEGAL method to ship any venomous reptile is through the airlines. Using any of the common ground carriers, UPS, Fed Ex, USPS, etc., is not only illegal but down right dangerous. With the background you claim, you know very well that ignorance is not a defense. You have a certain amount of assumed culpabilty in the manner these snakes were shipped.l
 
I agree Dennis...

Dennis, I agree this is a lame post.... It has been so many months back , I dont have the mo receipt to the postal mo i sent him.. I normally only hold onto such things for a month or 2,this has been about 7 months ago.Now out of nowhere he starts emailing me. I dont think he would even dispute the fact that I paid for the snakes.. if My memory serves me correctly I sent it to Ben's shop not to certain on that...But by all means please Dan post the pix... And even still infact if it was doa.. which I will not believe,I in turn paid for the snakes... You told me word for word on the phone how to pack and ship that snake tell it like you want.. The fact remains I did ship a hot via ground,and that was wrong very wrong,hell it was stupid and careless... It takes 2 though Dan. I have never ripped ne 1 off I believe I have had 1 dispute on here b4... It happens in this hobby/bizz. again I could list numerous ppl that ship hots via ground,anyone that reads this knows this to be true,but im not on here to throw ne1 out in the street. And it's ppl that im sure alot of you would drop ur jaws too... I do belive I have pix of the snake the day i shipped it or the day b4, I will hunt those up and post them,as much as i'd like to see this thread die off i'll continue to back myself to the fullest no matter how many posts are made... Pe@ce & Chicken grease.. Mike Clark
 
Dennis, I guess I did not make it clear in my last post. I am not eluding to jump ship and avoid any culpability in the manner in which the dead snake was shipped. However, the shipment itself is irrelevant to the matters of fraud, deception, and thievery that this kid pulled off. And although this transaction happened many months ago, I am not disputing that the kid did not pay for the snakes, nor am I trying to gather evidence to post on this forum. But if you received a dead snake and this kid put you through the crap he did with me, then you would understand.

I have no evidence to post for this forum, however what is available will be sent to state and federal investigators. Like I inferred in my last post, if you would like to discuss the matter, give me an email and I can provide my phone number as I cannot reply to every person who would might analyze and scrutinize every sentence.

I will tell you that I have been associated with the reptile trade for many years, but I did not learn until just a few minutes ago in your post that common ground carrier’s are not permitted to ship venomous. It might be considered ignorance, or whatever you might determine it to be, but perhaps that policy needs to revised because even States that have permit requirements allow the transit of venomous in locked boxes. As such, if a venomous reptile is shipped with a lock, then it should meet the requirements. However I am sure that idea can be debated until the horse is well rotted and down to the bone but I am too tired right now to even think about it.

In any case, why do you have a Marine Corps emblem on your post? Are you a Marine? I started my career in 1981 and served as a Corpsman with the 2nd FSSG at Camp Lejeune. After I earned a commission I served as the Administrative Officer of the medical clinic at Parris Island. I miss the military, and I hate to say it, even the Marines.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
In any case, why do you have a Marine Corps emblem on your post? Are you a Marine? I started my career in 1981 and served as a Corpsman with the 2nd FSSG at Camp Lejeune. After I earned a commission I served as the Administrative Officer of the medical clinic at Parris Island. I miss the military, and I hate to say it, even the Marines.

I served as a Fire Direction Controlman for Lima Battery, 3rd Battalion, 10th Marines, stationed at Camp Lejeune from '91-95. I sorely miss the Corps.
 
well

first let me say i know mike(serpentboy) for about allmost a year now,and he is a nice guy who cares greatly about herps and his business,that being said i remember when this deal was happening because mike asked me what i thought,i told him i wouldnt ship a hot thru the private carriers.and that was pretty much it until a few weeks later mike called me told me he shipped the snake and did the trade but that the guy had said it arrived doa,well first i said dude ya screwed up shipping a hot that way &2nd ,
why?,
he explained the guy worked for ben yadayada has and did receive and ship hots thru the private carriers and explained step by step how to pack it.and they both wanted the trade yadayada,,well it was wrong no one disputes that i beleive mike learned his lesson and will not ship hots thru the private carriers,now aside from all that mike just paid the guy for the snakes he got yep just paid him no corpse,no photo,no proof just said screw it and paid cash for the snakes he received.and i assume considered a lesson learned and done deal,
now apparently this guy wants something for nothing and wants to use the fact that mike shipped a hot thru a private carrier as a blackmail tactic, i was at mikes house last nite ive seen some of the emails from this danscarlo guy GEEZ,enuff to get a grown man fighting mad, and like i said mike cares greatly for herps and his business and was just at wits end w/the threats from this guy and thus this post.
i suppose some will say im bias because me and mike are friends but in the time ive known him & the deals ive personally had and deals that i have witnessed him make, i can honestly say he is a good guy with great animals that he stands behind.
thomas davis
 
Dennis, yea, I was told to expect a significant void or impact of being a part in any respect to the defense of our country, but I was able to block it out for a year or so. It hit like a ton of bricks not too long ago, and the "missing" part will perhaps not go away. Actually my best memories were going with 2nd Marine Division on field training operations and providing hands- on medical support when needed. I worked that emergency room at Lejeune and sewed up a ton of Marines, especially on a pay-day weekend.
 
hmmmmmm

You admited that I paid for the snakes,so where is the thievery?As for you not knowing the rules on shipping hots BS. You told me it would be ok and this is how you do it to avoid the hi delta dash costs... "Oh it's just a lil coral snake" remember u telling me that Dan? You assured me as long as it was packed the way you told me to pack it,which it was there would be no harm(although I admit fully I knew better). I asked for pix a dozen times ....excuse after ecuse I got from you. So not seeing any pix nor getting a corpse back I took your word and went out and got a postal mo and sent you the agreed upon price of the snakes. Never heard nething else from you about it, got a few emails from you a month or so after that asking me to ship you TX corals... I said no.. Now 7 months l8tr you want something for which you were already paid for! Now who is being deceived & defrauded? You were the 1 who put me thru all kinds of bs. You keep stressin this "Kid" thing maybe to you I am Im 26 yrs old have a Beautiful Wife & 2 Beautiful children and am A good provider for my Family..... so Wuts with the constant "Kid" refs.? This is Just a $ making hobby 4 me,something I'd love for 1 day to be a bizz. Im not trying to rip ne1 off Im just doing what I love and trying to make a buck or 2 while doing it.. Now with all this being said tell ur friends in DC what you want... Be sure and Tell them how you openly bash delta and request your hots be shipped to you front door just to save a buck... As far as Im concerned this issue is dead in the water!!!! Although when I see lies posted about me I'll continue to defend myself.... Now drop and give me 20 pvt. Mike Clark...
 
Are you beginning to show signs of cracking from the pressure?

I thought it would take at least a few days, but your weaker than I thought.

Confess that you sent a dead snake.

Confess that you conceded to doing this act of theivery, deceit, and fraud.

Then you might be earn the respect to be called a man.

Until then, your a turd just waiting to be flushed.
 
I dont know whos telling the truth and whos lieing. I think there may be a little truth to both sides but until there is solid proof this is just a big argument. But if SerpentBoy payed for the snakes then why keep emailing him or even contacting him? I dont believe that anyone would send payment for a DOA without seeing a pic or having it sent back. All of the big name breeders I know of ask for a pic if not then return the body or else you are out of luck. Anyways bottom line in my opinion is the snake was paid for reguardless of if you lied and got the snake and the $$ or if SerpentBoy was trying to pull a fast one and had second thoughts about it. Bottom line is SerpentBoy got his snakes you got your money so let bygons (Spelling) be bygons. Just dont deal with each other again and dont reccomend each other to anyone else. Neither one of you have any other negitive feedback from what I can find so maybe this is just a deal gone bad. Sorry for carrying on but I just felt like posting and Im not taking any sides so if it seems like I have it was not my intentions. My intentions were that DOA happen sometimes and the bottomline is that they need to be taken care of. In this case it was taken care of both partys got their $$$ and snakes so that should be the end. I hope everything goes well for you guys and you all dont have any other bad transactions as they are a pain in the rear.
 
Hmm.....Mike Clark was defending Mark Carmany in my thread about our deal......I guess birds of a feather flock together huh?
 
exactly...

Aaron,I could not agree with your post more.. Let it die,it seems to be flooding the forum.and im sure ppl are sick of seeing it. Still I have told no lies, I dont see how he claims me to be the thief.He was paid,admited he was paid.. & still wants more...& i do ask for proof I did sevral times... nothing.. notta. The only reason I took his word and sent funds asap was the fact that he Was @ the Time a Ben Siegel employee.. 3:04 am im beat. Im no thief nor do I commit fraud as Dan loves to keep stressin.. Good Night ppl.. Mike Clark.
 
I expected that 1 David.

David, I was not defending him about your guys deal.. I just simply said out of all the dealings I had with the guy, they were Good and he was a good guy to to bizz. with for me. Im sorry if me posting that on your thread offended you.that was not my intentions.. Pe@ce.. Mike Clark
 
geckokreeper....

Aaron, I forgot to point out that I think you are the only 1 so far that has actually looked at the actual issue,and not who shipped what and how... even though that is a big deal you still posted about the actual subject @ hand.. PROPZ.... Mike Clark
 
I agree with Dennis, both of these stories are pathetic, and neither story smells like the "real" truth. Anyone who is reckless and IGNORANT enough to ship venomous snakes in any manner other than the legal way, via the airlines, has zero credibility in my book. Don't you two jokers understand it's people like you that give us all a bad name? If you cannot or will not afford the time, effort and money to ship hot snakes properly then please, for all of our sakes, stop selling them online!
 
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