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Inquiry dan scolaro??? bad guy??

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I have no idea how to start this. i was looking for a 4.2 group of captive bred red eye tree frogs. well my gut instinct for some reason told me to look here and i saw a lot of bad guy posts and decided to tell him that i was not interested in buying from him. I have been burnt before, and the last thing I wanted was to be burnt on some adult CB RETF for my sons birthday coming up. So i passed. Here are his emails back and forth. when i sent an email finally back to basically say due to your response it just concludes my assumptions on why i shouldnt buy from you dan. well apparently he blocked my email for a response.


You are full of crap and I won't sell to an idiot.

Dan

In a message dated 11/12/2008 9:33:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Dan: I think i am going to have to pass due to the BOI. thanks. kristy

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From: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:24:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Message about: Red Eye Tree Frogs: CB Adults: $25
To: [email protected]


I will be on the road all day Wednesday so will answer any emails when I get back. Thanks.

Dan



kristy:rolleyes:
 
Nice Dan, REAL NICE!

What is the excuse this time? This person just inquired and you turned into a jerk.

You have some of the absolute worst customer service out there. I am not sure how or why you are still in business but if everyone out there knew of the BOI I am sure your days in the business would be numbered.
 
dan

yeah i figured this. i knew about the boi and have a couple vendors that have screwed me over. but i was cautious here and obviously you can see how his customer service is. I wasnt mean. I was honest. I didnt tell him a load of crap. Just said due to the BOI that i was basically going to pass. If i dont get some nice CB RETF so be it, but atlast i can spend that money where it belongs for my son. Unfortunately he wont be getting RETF's right this second. Did his email tick me off, of course, but i tried emailing him back respectfully stating that he has a chance to explain and that his email to be was inappropriate. kristy:iagree:
 
I sometimes wonder

why one would bother to send someone an email to let them know that they are not going to buy from them ... RETF are so readily available anywhere . You could have saved yourself allot time, aggravation and if you really wanted to , gone to someone who could have serviced your needs for sons birthday..

This is a ridiculous thread where one gets the feeling that you are doing this purposely to start trouble.. No excuses for Dan's response, but why get involved in the first place. Why antagonize Dan, or anyone for that matter regardless of whatever difficulties they have had..

If you had no intentions of purchasing anything other then sending an email or listing it here on the BOI devote your productive time to something better then causing trouble..
 
Mr. Tresser,
It would appear to my old eyes that Ms. Meyers was already in communication with Mr. Scolaro when she discovered the negative threads that changed her mind on a purchase. Informing him that she was backing out of the negotiations and why would have only been the polite thing to do.

I too must admit my guilt for following the same scenario once or twice, but it would seem to be poor business indeed to start negotiations then just drop out and ignore the other person. Just my personal opinion.
 
Had Kristy acted any different, this could have been a bad buyer thread started by Dan. Sure she did not need to start a new thread and could have simply added to the existing threads out there. Either way, Dan was once again showing off his rear end.
 
C'mon...we all know this complaint is not "legitimate"...he's never had one of those before! How many times do people complain when a prospective buyer jut blows them off without telling them why. I like it when someone tells me whether or not they are going to buy from me. She spoke to him candidly and honestly, and he lashed out.
 
dan scolaro

i started it as inquiry. well i'm new to the boi, must admit. so when i saw his name on the boi and it seemed in a lot of places, i got worried, i felt the need to post how inappropriate he was to me when i backed out of a potential i believe imo transaction and worried like some said that this thread could have turned into me losing out on the transaction. first and foremost, why not be polite to me(potential customer) when i told him respectfully that due to the boi, i was going to have to back out. then get a rude email back confirming my thoughts on this guy due to his response. he could have easily talked with me about the boi, said ok., thanks anyways, not act like he did. to me it just shows what kind of business he runs and who he is as far as someone i dont want to do business with. i admit, maybe i dont always post where it should have been. i was about to post on the other threads but like my first post said, i didnt know where to start this and i hadnt made the transaction, so i felt it would have been hijacking someones thead. kristy
 
dan

and also to add: as a vendor/breeder of poison dart fros, i would have liked to know if someone was making a transaction with me, why they had decided to back out. i felt it was not a moral thing to do by just ignoring him when he was probably counting on a sale. I would have wanted that respect, so i tried to show him the same. sorry for the repost, but it seems in all fairness that you cant edit and add to you last post which is probably a good thing.;)
 
The answer here is simple

If you had any reservations from seeing all the negative feedback about Dan, and you were emailing Dan as well. the easiest thing you should have done was bow out politely. You have changed your mind. That would have been the end of it.. I am sure Dan or anyone else would not have known that you had reservations... But you baited Dan into reacting the way you new nothing good would have come from your email.. And now your posting it here as a bad guy post..

What I may suggest is if in the future you decide not to do business with someone because of information that you received from either here or anywhere else, allow discretion to be your wiser choice and just shop elsewhere instead of fueling the situation and making it unnecessary.. Not to mention that you would have to buy your red eyes elsewhere anyway !
 
KNOBTAIL said:
If you had any reservations from seeing all the negative feedback about Dan, and you were emailing Dan as well. the easiest thing you should have done was bow out politely. You have changed your mind. That would have been the end of it.. I am sure Dan or anyone else would not have known that you had reservations... But you baited Dan into reacting the way you new nothing good would have come from your email.. And now your posting it here as a bad guy post..

What I may suggest is if in the future you decide not to do business with someone because of information that you received from either here or anywhere else, allow discretion to be your wiser choice and just shop elsewhere instead of fueling the situation and making it unnecessary.. Not to mention that you would have to buy your red eyes elsewhere anyway !
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Seriously?

Personally, I find her information (Dan's response) completely relevant to what this forum is all about... and am glad she posted.
 
TopNotchBoas said:
Seriously?

Personally, I find her information (Dan's response) completely relevant to what this forum is all about... and am glad she posted.
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:iagree: In fact, it shows that Dan walks around with a huge chip on his shoulder and attacks totally unprovoked.
Seems to me if you are not kissing Dans hind end he calls you names and bashes you.
 
KNOBTAIL said:
If you had any reservations from seeing all the negative feedback about Dan, and you were emailing Dan as well. the easiest thing you should have done was bow out politely. You have changed your mind. That would have been the end of it.. I am sure Dan or anyone else would not have known that you had reservations... But you baited Dan into reacting the way you new nothing good would have come from your email.. And now your posting it here as a bad guy post..

What I may suggest is if in the future you decide not to do business with someone because of information that you received from either here or anywhere else, allow discretion to be your wiser choice and just shop elsewhere instead of fueling the situation and making it unnecessary.. Not to mention that you would have to buy your red eyes elsewhere anyway !
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Jerry, I'm not trying to provke you here, but I have to ask. What is your relationship with Dan? I know that both of you live in S. Fla. Do you, or have you done business with him? It seems to me (and I may be wrong) that you have made other posts in regards to Mr. Scolaro before. To imply that the OP in this case was wrong is, in my opinion incorrect. Dan has proven himself over and over to be an idiot. Surely, you can't deny that. I have read many good posts by you in the past, and we agree on many issues, Just not this one.
 
Jerry... I agree with the OP... If I would have been in negotiations with someone about an animal... then the least I would do is let them know why I backed out. Its called Respect.... why would you be going after the OP....with the information that has been presented I cant see any fault in the way they have handled it thus far.

This just goes to show that Dan Scolaro is a loose cannon.... and quite frankly is in business for all the WRONG reasons. Why would you treat a potential customer that way. I have window shoppers PM/Email me all the time... but I have never lashed out because they decided they didnt want to buy from me.

Kristina.... you have posted this in the correct section and it just goes to show the true character of Dan.
 
David, let me answer your question

the only reason I get involved in these threads is because I dont think the BOI was ever intended for people to provide there grievances here because of emails or phone calls that they feel is relevant to the BOI... Had Dan or anyone else shipped , stole, or deceived anyone with the intent to defraud in anyway , YES, they should be brought to the attention of everyone because its important to keep this industry clean..

The herp business is a magnet for the best as well as the worst, so we have to vigilant... But I dont see the benefit of someone posting a thread because of an email or maybe next time a phone call because they were unhappy with the response and felt it should be brought to the attention of the BOI...

Until a legitimate grievance occurs, why cause this commotion , when in fact nothing has happened other then some remarks because Dan may have been pissed off at the email reply... As I said this could have been avoided by the potential buyer maybe handling it in a more discreet manner.. I dont see anything positive out of this..

Thats why I respond Dave, and you are correct , I have done the same thing in the past on other threds and will continue to do so whenever I see what I may consider frivilous posts that in my opinion do not merit a thread...

To answer your question with regard to Dan and my association with him. The fact that we both live in So. Fla. needless to say is coincidental but then So. Fla is a mecca for herp people. Beyond that I have no relationship with Dan other then meeting him while he was working for Ben Siegel Reptiles.. I used to get my crickets there..

I appreciate the Post Dave, but I sincerely believe that these things get out hand and provide nothing valuable that could benefit anyone who already knows Dans history.. The best thing anyone can do is avoid Dan if you dont want to do business with him.. But dont come here with emails or phone calls complaining how nasty he was in his response.. It benefits no one.. JERRY
 
Jerry I did agree with some of your post....however by the OP posting... it just adds more proof of his conduct. Not everyone knows of the BOI or of Dan.... It could have just as easily been me 6 mos ago because I knew of neither. I really wanted (and I still do) a Coral Cobra and he was the only one that had one at the time.... unfortunately (depending on how you look at it) my fridge died and I had to spend the money on things more important. That prob saved me a whole lot of headaches.
 
KNOBTAIL said:
the only reason I get involved in these threads is because I dont think the BOI was ever intended for people to provide there grievances here because of emails or phone calls that they feel is relevant to the BOI... Had Dan or anyone else shipped , stole, or deceived anyone with the intent to defraud in anyway , YES, they should be brought to the attention of everyone because its important to keep this industry clean..

The herp business is a magnet for the best as well as the worst, so we have to vigilant... But I dont see the benefit of someone posting a thread because of an email or maybe next time a phone call because they were unhappy with the response and felt it should be brought to the attention of the BOI...

Until a legitimate grievance occurs, why cause this commotion , when in fact nothing has happened other then some remarks because Dan may have been pissed off at the email reply... As I said this could have been avoided by the potential buyer maybe handling it in a more discreet manner.. I dont see anything positive out of this..

Thats why I respond Dave, and you are correct , I have done the same thing in the past on other threds and will continue to do so whenever I see what I may consider frivilous posts that in my opinion do not merit a thread...

To answer your question with regard to Dan and my association with him. The fact that we both live in So. Fla. needless to say is coincidental but then So. Fla is a mecca for herp people. Beyond that I have no relationship with Dan other then meeting him while he was working for Ben Siegel Reptiles.. I used to get my crickets there..

I appreciate the Post Dave, but I sincerely believe that these things get out hand and provide nothing valuable that could benefit anyone who already knows Dans history.. The best thing anyone can do is avoid Dan if you dont want to do business with him.. But dont come here with emails or phone calls complaining how nasty he was in his response.. It benefits no one.. JERRY
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Jerry, That is an excellent post. Thanks you for your answer. I still feel that the OP did nothing wrong. Perhaps it could have been added on to an existing thread.
 
Thanks David,

The best thing that could happen to this industry is the ability to protect ones assets by coming here to the BOI and find information based on fact about unscrupulous or even scrupulous persons. Its a great resource that gives you a "heads up" for prior acts good or bad.

I take no sides defending anyone here other then trying to use some common sense in limiting some of these threads to the matter at hand.. There are those who seem to be looking for an argument once a name comes up such as Dan or Nick, Dave, and a bunch of others , and find int absolutely necessary regardless of whether anything has even occurred, to join in the bandwagon and take the BOI in a direction not worthy of its intended pursuits..

Dan without question should have taken a real breather before responding the way he did.. Under those circumstances he already knew that he was not going to have a sale, so his only course of action like that of a 3 year old is to lash out. He also could have handled it more maturely and possibly offering some other options which could have ameliorated the situation, but he chose not to and the results are what we are dealing with now... Poor judgement and maybe Dan may have regretted his actions.. We will never know.... I personally,

have run into similar situations where I check here first then if there is anything negative, I advise the seller that I am at a quandary because I saw some negative responses with his name associated with prior problems and as much as I would love to purchase the items in question I have some reservations... That would be a more reasonable approach... Here is the result when I use that method..

It occurred with Nick Mole, and I sent him the email just stated above.. His response to me was that he would be willing to ship the animals open account so this way there would be no fear of a loss of money and that the animals were as advertised. He would pay for the shipping as well.. If I was satisfied, I would paypal him, if not I would return the animals ... There was no loss on my part and the risk was certainly minimal. As it turned out, we developed a nice relationship where anything I may need, he ships, I pay ! This is not isolated I have done this with others for substantially larger amounts of monies...

I am willing to bet that if the person who started this post would have worked out an arrangement where the money would not have entered the picture, Dan would have responded favorably... Certainly he would have been more inclined to have the business then loose it ! Anyway, I am glad I had an opportunity to vent my opinions and hope that we can move on to more favorable avenues for conducting business....
 
KNOBTAIL said:
If you had any reservations from seeing all the negative feedback about Dan, and you were emailing Dan as well. the easiest thing you should have done was bow out politely. You have changed your mind. That would have been the end of it.. I am sure Dan or anyone else would not have known that you had reservations... But you baited Dan into reacting the way you new nothing good would have come from your email.. And now your posting it here as a bad guy post..

What I may suggest is if in the future you decide not to do business with someone because of information that you received from either here or anywhere else, allow discretion to be your wiser choice and just shop elsewhere instead of fueling the situation and making it unnecessary.. Not to mention that you would have to buy your red eyes elsewhere anyway !
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You must be kidding me..... Are you seriously defending Dan?????
Yes she could have just said not thanks I changed my mind. And I am sure Dan would have asked why and when she told him, this would have happened anyway. So why are you defending Dan, a known liar and thief?
 
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