Bad Guy Danielandjacob

[pinkdemoness24]

I paid for a snake from this guy on Halloween and every day he keeps saying he'll send it the next day, never does, and refuses to give me my money back. Also does not really respond to any attempts to communicate.

 

[leaveittoweaver]

I would post all evidence you have. Texts, emails, etc.

-Rachel Weaver

 

[pinkdemoness24]

Daniel Little Oct 30, 10:16 am: Ill take 70 plus shipping
Daniel Little Oct 30, 10:25 am: We can money transfer through wal mart that way u have a copy and me to...Fed ex...
Daniel Little Oct 30, 12:33pm: Yes I don't like shipping Thursdays but I will
DL Oct 30, 12:36pm: I can ship Thursday what's your zip so I can get shipping cost
Amanda Feuerstein (me) Oct 30, 12:36pm: 47403
DL Oct 30, 12:36pm: K
DL Oct 30, 3:01pm: 45
DL Oct 30, 4:00pm: Let me know if your interested an are gonna send it. U will need my info and ill have to schedule a pickup
AF Oct 30, 4:15pm: I am still interested
DL Oct 30, 4:17pm: Ok just need to know tonight if u want it shipped out tomorrow
AF Oct 30, 4:18pm: I thought you would be shipping on thursday so i get her friday
AF Oct 30, 4:19pm: My address is (my address)
DL Oct 30, 4:20pm: Yea sorry was thinking today is wed...Lol sorry
AF Oct 30, 4:31pm: Im heading to walmart soon what info of yours do i need?
DL Oct 30, 4:38pm: (his address)
DL Oct 30, 5:35pm: What's the weather like there?
AF Oct 30, 5:35pm: Cold like 50s all week
DL Oct 30, 5:36pm: Ok
AF Oct 30, 5:43pm: Im transfering the money right now she said youll need your id to pick up
DL Oct 30, 5:44pm: Ok
DL Oct 30, 6:40pm: I'm at wal mart now
AF Nov 1, 12:23pm: Did you ship her already?
DL Nov 1, 12:24pm: Not yet haven't seen fed ex yet
DL Nov 1, 7:23pm: They didn't pick it up fronts shop today I'm gonna see if they will guarentee Saturday delivery...I'm so sorry
AF Nov 1, 7:38pm: Damn
DL Nov 1, 7:40pm: Yes I'm really sorry I had her boxed up and ready...I don't know what happened...Had pick up scheaduled.
AF Nov 2, 11:42am: So whats the situation today? Everything sorted out?
AF Nov 2, 6:12pm: Am i getting her tomorrow?
DL Nov 2, 7:36pm: They wouldn't guarantee delivery tomorrow it will be there Tuesday
AF Nov 2, 7:36pm: Okay
AF Nov 5, 10:34 am: Remember to get my baby girl out today
AF Nov 5, 3:26pm: Did you get a tracking number?
AF Nov 5, 8:43pm: I really need to know if I need to be here tomorrow or not
DL Nov 5: 8:45pm: I'm sure it will be I'm on my way back home...Picked some stuff up in Dallas she was at my store ill text u with the info when I get back...
AF Nov 5, 8:45pm: Thanks
AF Nov 6, 8:24 am: Do you have a tracking number or know around what time shell show up?
AF Nov 6, 10:13am: Can i please get some sort of information?
DL Nov 6, 10:24am: Give me a min just got up.. Gotta call my store
AF Nov 6, 10:58am: Did you get the info?
AF Nov 6, 11:50pm: Im not trying to be impatient but I really need to know if she shipped and if so is there a tracking number so i can be home
AF Nov 6, 1:29pm: Can you answer please?
DL Nov 6, 1:31pm: I'm shipping today going to fed ex now.. No one knows how to do it!! Fucking bullshit! Ill send u a tracking number
AF Nov 6, 3:05pm: Well shipping can seem confusing if youre not used to it. Did you get the tracking number?
AF Nov 6, 5:34pm: Whats the tracking number?
DL Nov 7, 11:05am: I'm shipping today was to late yesterday
AF Nov 7, 11:06amL Can you make sure to get her out today? I don't want to keep waiting
AF Nov 7, 12:49pm: Have you shipped her yet?
AF Nov 7, 3:46pm: Did you ship her? Do you have a tracking number?
AF Nov 7, 5:37pm: I deserve to know if you shipped her or not
AF Nov 7, 5:51pm: If the snake wasnt shipped i would like my money back i paid you a week ago and there has been plenty of opportunity to ship
AF Nov 8, 10:10am: Was she shipped?
DL Nov 8, 10:20am: No
AF Nov 8, 10:21am: Then i want my money back today you already have my info
AF Nov8, 10:24am: If i dont get my full funds back in 24 hours i will start the legal process in small claims court
AF Nov 8, 10:35am: Will you refund me or should i go ahead and start?
AF Nov 8, 10:52am: I want the full 115 i sent
AF Nov 8, 11:03am: Please let me know if should go to walmart or if i should go ahead and call my lawyer
DL Nov 8, 11:44am: Ok ill sent it! I'm at work can't do anything till tonight
AF Nov 8, 11:45am: Thank you
AF Nov 9, 9:01am: Did you moneygram the money last night?
AF Nov 9, 11:43am: Did you moneygram the money yet?
AF Nov 9, 12:51pm: When i go to walmart around 2 and if the money isnt there im calling my lawyer
DL Nov 9. 1:29pm: Your getting your snake. I'm sorry I haven't sent it yet but you will get it Tuesday morning...n
AF Nov 9, 1:30pm: If i dont get a tracking number by 5pm monday im reporting this to the police then
AF Nov 9, 1:33pm: No excuses its been plenty long enough
AF Nov 9, 1:37pm: Either I get the tracking number or my money back on monday no putting it off or stuff popping up i already have an appointment with my lawyer just in case im not going to get taken

 

[tommyhil4_6]

Ugh... the lawyer, small claims and police threats are getting old.

Has he given you an excuse? You do know that nationwide shipping right now is a fairly bad idea, due to dropping temps. Have you attempted to call and get an actual person on the phone vs. texting? It may just be a misunderstanding, lack of communication or the like.

I feel this BOI was posted hastily and you should see if he attempted to make it right come next week ie: tuesday morning.

 

[Fangthane]

Ugh... the lawyer, small claims and police threats are getting old.

Some of us may think that all the scams are getting old. You appear to be taking the stance that it's ok for the "seller" to choose not to follow through on several occasions, but the buyer's choice to try to get what she paid for by exerting a little pressure is somehow damning. Interesting perspective...

Has he given you an excuse? You do know that nationwide shipping right now is a fairly bad idea, due to dropping temps. Have you attempted to call and get an actual person on the phone vs. texting? It may just be a misunderstanding, lack of communication or the like.

He gave numerous excuses. Everything from forgetting which day it was to blaming it on FedEx not showing up. Temperature was one of the few excuses he didn't use. By the time it's fairly clear that someone is trying to screw you over, it's best to keep all communication via some written and verifiable medium. It's much easier to be taken seriously on the BOI when you can present a substantiable case that's backed up by more than "he said-she said" phone conversations.

How could this possibly be a misunderstanding? He thought that she was sending him a MoneyGram as a gift?

I feel this BOI was posted hastily and you should see if he attempted to make it right come next week ie: tuesday morning.

Hastily? Hardly. Based on what has already passed, if she'd waited until Tuesday, there's nothing to suggest that she would have received anything other than a new excuse. Wal-Mart money transfer, constant excuses for a total lack of follow-through, generally poor communication after receiving the payment; all of which can easily be seens as adding up to having been scammed.

If the snake magically shows up on Tuesday, she can easily update the thread to reflect that he did end up completing the transaction. Even if that is how it plays out, there's more than enough information here to give potential buyers cause for pause.

 

[tommyhil4_6]

Some of us may think that all the scams are getting old. You appear to be taking the stance that it's ok for the "seller" to choose not to follow through on several occasions, but the buyer's choice to try to get what she paid for by exerting a little pressure is somehow damning. Interesting perspective...


He gave numerous excuses. Everything from forgetting which day it was to blaming it on FedEx not showing up. Temperature was one of the few excuses he didn't use. By the time it's fairly clear that someone is trying to screw you over, it's best to keep all communication via some written and verifiable medium. It's much easier to be taken seriously on the BOI when you can present a substantiable case that's backed up by more than "he said-she said" phone conversations.

How could this possibly be a misunderstanding? He thought that she was sending him a MoneyGram as a gift?



Hastily? Hardly. Based on what has already passed, if she'd waited until Tuesday, there's nothing to suggest that she would have received anything other than a new excuse. Wal-Mart money transfer, constant excuses for a total lack of follow-through, generally poor communication after receiving the payment; all of which can easily be seens as adding up to having been scammed.

If the snake magically shows up on Tuesday, she can easily update the thread to reflect that he did end up completing the transaction. Even if that is how it plays out, there's more than enough information here to give potential buyers cause for pause.

I say the threats are getting old, because we all know anyone in their right mind will not contact a lawyer for a 100 dollar(ish) suit. I feel she made half-hearted efforts to contact and was quick to threaten legal recourse, which we all know was a lie unless she proves otherwise. That inherently shows she is not-truthful, as well as the seller. I've seen people crucified on here for using that exact tactic of word manipulation and threatening.

I follow a saying. "You get more bees with honey then vinegar".

I have read many on here (not as much as you obviously, you always have good insight and input as to the scenarios imo) where it was a legitimate misunderstanding and then people harp "poster should have been more patient".

My post was more of a "he promised via Tuesday, give him the benefit of the doubt". It's been slightly over 1 week and that to me is a fairly FAST period of time.

Hopefully it will be concluded and 1 of 2 scenarios plays out.

She gets the snake, which in this current climate is risky (i'm assuming someone shipping a 100 dollar snake and this obvious level of communicative abilities (or lack there of) will not follow Robyn's recommendation of double insulating and 40 hour heat packs and waiting to a low of 38 degrees, but I digress.

Or, she gets her money back.

Agreed on the potential of warning other members. Maybe I, like her, was to fast to post my opinion. I've waited several weeks every now and then for proper shipping temps with very little communication from the seller in the meantime. Didn't jump into a hate thread after 2 days with no communication. Then again, I only deal with people with references or a legitimate business, so I am never worried.

She obviously knew of this service Fauna provides and some culpability or responsibility should be placed on buyers to research first IN MY OPINION.

Does not give the seller the right to steal or commit fraud, but.... negligence is NOT bliss, again IMHO.

Good luck on the outcome.

 

[Fangthane]

I feel she made half-hearted efforts to contact and was quick to threaten legal recourse, which we all know was a lie unless she proves otherwise. That inherently shows she is not-truthful, as well as the seller. I've seen people crucified on here for using that exact tactic of word manipulation and threatening.

You and I must have wildy differing views on what exactly constitutes "half-hearted" effort. Several text messages every day definitely looks to be sincere effort. It's entirely possible that she didn't even have his email address, and that text messaging was her only viable means of communication, as opposed to phone calls, of which I already gave my opinion.

If the worst that can be said about her is that she tried to bluff her way to a resolution, I certainly wouldn't begrudge her the attempt. While some may choose to see her "lie" in stark black and white, I'm factoring in apparent intent. Aside from finally getting what she'd already paid for, there's no real context in which to see any type of nefarious gain.

I have read many on here (not as much as you obviously, you always have good insight and input as to the scenarios imo) where it was a legitimate misunderstanding and then people harp "poster should have been more patient".

My post was more of a "he promised via Tuesday, give him the benefit of the doubt". It's been slightly over 1 week and that to me is a fairly FAST period of time.

Trust has to be earned, and I can see where he failed to give her any reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. Each situation is it's own separate animal. One can only cry wolf so many times before you'd have to seriously question their intentions. I might be more inclined to agree with her supposed need to be more patient if not for his daily choice not to live up to his word. Every single time that he claimed he'd ship, he always managed to find some reason no to.

While it may be a truncated time table, he crammed an abundant lack of follow-through into that short period. Had the transaction been drawn out over a month, I think that the number of instances of him not following through wouldn't be less damning.

 

[Lucille]

we all know anyone in their right mind will not contact a lawyer for a 100 dollar(ish) suit.

If one researches the consumer law in one's state, sometimes one finds that there are statutory recoveries for attorney fees if one wins. In any case, these days, many attorneys will give professional advice for a small fee or even pro bono.

crucified

It seems to me that many who are crucified for threatening the use of an attorney are Bad Guys who just had the truth uncovered about one of their transactions and are trying to bluff their way into hushing up the truth teller.

This person has no money and no snake. She is not a Bad Guy.

 

[cajunreptiles]

Ugh... the lawyer, small claims and police threats are getting old.

Has he given you an excuse? You do know that nationwide shipping right now is a fairly bad idea, due to dropping temps. Have you attempted to call and get an actual person on the phone vs. texting? It may just be a misunderstanding, lack of communication or the like.

I feel this BOI was posted hastily and you should see if he attempted to make it right come next week ie: tuesday morning.

The seller has had plenty of time to ship all i see is excuses after excuses. I know ill go to small claims/civil court for any amount of money. its about teaching this scammers that it needs to stop so honest people can still do business without worrying about getting ripped off.

 

[rcarichter]

I would always recommend patience if the seller needs to wait for proper weather, or until he receives more shipping supplies, etc., but this seller seemed ready to ship from the start, and just kept stringing the OP along with excuses. I would be leery to send untraceable money, also. Yes, you need a bank account or credit to have paypal, but I believe it to be necessity when selling online. This seller either doesn't have the snake, or is too lazy to go to Fedex. What we know he has for sure is her money. He should come on here give a status update.

Noelle

 

[ShadowAceD]

HUGE RED FLAG: Moneygram

I would be shocked if the seller comes through.

 

[pinkdemoness24]

I was calling several times every day between texts to see if I was just catching him at a bad time. He never answered a single time. He would also only respond to texts after I called him several times. I had no email address to go by, and when I called the home phone number of the address he gave me, the woman responded that she didn't know him. As for the lawyer thing, my school provides lawyers on retainer, so would be of no cost to me. As the weather, it's been in the upper 50s, middle 60s here the last week so it wouldn't have been that dangerous to ship.

 

[Lucille]

Please post the seller's address, phone number and email.

 

[pinkdemoness24]

Daniel Little
501-538-9097
1547 Treasure Isle Rd
Hot Springs AR 71913

I never got an email

 

[Lucille]

I have emailed him via his username here alerting him to this thread, he still appears to have active ads up.

 

[tommyhil4_6]

I was calling several times every day between texts to see if I was just catching him at a bad time. He never answered a single time. He would also only respond to texts after I called him several times. I had no email address to go by, and when I called the home phone number of the address he gave me, the woman responded that she didn't know him. As for the lawyer thing, my school provides lawyers on retainer, so would be of no cost to me. As the weather, it's been in the upper 50s, middle 60s here the last week so it wouldn't have been that dangerous to ship.

I have made it good practice (although I despise the telephone) to talk to a person before any money changes hands. That way you know with good certainty that is a legit contact method if issues arise.

I personally also ONLY use paypal (I front fees if needed, because it is wonderful insurance). I always use my Mastercard as my rebate is 3% and I have buyer protection from paypal and the CC company. I have ALWAYS refused moneygrams/mo and the like. If you don't want it via paypal or to charge me via my CC then i'll purchase elsewhere. It's directly due to people like this.

I hope you get some sort of resolution one way or another. If you do get the snake you PAID for, I hope he/she is healthy, otherwise I hope you get the money back.

Fortunately it's a cheap lesson if he manages to slip through the cracks. I personally had a guy try and scam me from 900.00 a week ago, but due to my methods it saved me in the end. An individual contacted me via phone yesterday asking about this "Same guy" and realized he was about to be scammed as well. (also off topic, but one of my rentals got burglarized that i'm rehabbing and had 4k in tools stolen 4 days ago). I know how it feels to have YOUR money stolen!

Unfortunate reality is, money makes people do terrible things... no matter small or large amounts. 100 bucks is still a 100 bucks.

Post back when there is/is not a resolution.

 

[Teatime]

Ugh... the lawyer, small claims and police threats are getting old.

Has he given you an excuse? You do know that nationwide shipping right now is a fairly bad idea, due to dropping temps. Have you attempted to call and get an actual person on the phone vs. texting? It may just be a misunderstanding, lack of communication or the like.

WTF? How else is someone supposed to get their money back from a scammer? That's what the court system in this country is supposed to be used for. Also, what do you mean "nationwide shipping right now is a fairly bad idea"? Some people get warm weather year round. The OP says her weather is in the 50s which is fine for shipping.

I know it's only one side of the story, but right now from what the OP has posted, this guy had plenty of time to ship the snake and kept saying that he would, but he didn't. He didn't seem to offer any excuses other than being at work or arriving too late, etc.

 

[Teatime]

The OP says her weather is in the 50s which is fine for shipping.

Just to clarify, I mean with the addition of a heat pack.

 

[tommyhil4_6]

WTF? How else is someone supposed to get their money back from a scammer? That's what the court system in this country is supposed to be used for. Also, what do you mean "nationwide shipping right now is a fairly bad idea"? Some people get warm weather year round. The OP says her weather is in the 50s which is fine for shipping.

I know it's only one side of the story, but right now from what the OP has posted, this guy had plenty of time to ship the snake and kept saying that he would, but he didn't. He didn't seem to offer any excuses other than being at work or arriving too late, etc.

Safeguard their purchase via responsible business practices such as using a service that provides fraud protection? The best defense is a good offense right?

 

[Teatime]

Safeguard their purchase via responsible business practices such as using a service that provides fraud protection? The best defense is a good offense right?

Yes, and hindsight is 20/20. But honestly, sometimes you shouldn't have to be punished for trying to put a little faith in people.