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Bad Guy Dean Stemple Strictly Exotics BAD GUY!

If he doesn't have the money, what do you expect him to do? He asked the OP to give him some time to make it right, didn't he?

Maybe the website is down for the divorce. Wouldn't she be entitled to half of his business if they were getting divorced? I wouldn't doubt if this was advice from his lawyer.

I can sit on the phone all day with any of you, but if I don't have the money then no amount of talking can make it appear.

Has the OP called the number that Tyler called?

I think the whole point isnt that he doesnt have the money, but that he may have been actually scamming from the beginning. If he really was having a rough time and low on cash, then why lie and say you have sent money? Most "good guys" would at least let contact the OP and try and figure something out. To be honest deans story isnt holding water at all. I will put it this way, If he wasnt "known" by a lot of people here, most of his defenders would be singing a different tune. Just like with Adam wysocki(?). The least he could do is send the snakes back if he really couldnt pay the debt. It all smells to fishy to me.
 
And another thing. Reagan says she had to take away Dean's phone because the account was in her name. That means that the phone number is in her name also. If Dean had to go out and get his own phone, then how did he manage to keep the number that was in Reagan's name?
 
I don't know the guy, never spoke a word to him. I don't think anyone is really defending him since he is obviously guilty of the debt. I'm just throwing scenarios out there since most of this thread is speculation anyway.

The Adam Wysocki deal was money that was owed for years. So far, this has been short term and hopefully redeemable. Personally, I think it would be kinda of stupid too scam on snakes rather than cash. Once your name is trashed, how are you gonna sell them? or the offspring?
 
Once your name is trashed, how are you gonna sell them? or the offspring?

There are scum bags out there who have been in this industry for years. Some of them wholesale their animals, so you never even know where they go. Some flippers will buy from anyone if the price is right. How do you think Capone stays in business?
 
I don't know the guy, never spoke a word to him. I don't think anyone is really defending him since he is obviously guilty of the debt. I'm just throwing scenarios out there since most of this thread is speculation anyway.

The Adam Wysocki deal was money that was owed for years. So far, this has been short term and hopefully redeemable. Personally, I think it would be kinda of stupid too scam on snakes rather than cash. Once your name is trashed, how are you gonna sell them? or the offspring?


I understand what your saying, but something is just not right about the whole deal. I honestly dont know either why he would scam for snakes. Maybe he figured he had 90 days to sell them before it all hit the fan. I understand this wasnt years like the adam deal, but 3 months is still a while if you ask me. I honestly dont know if whats going on in his personal life is real or not, but if you lie about sending money twice, then you are up to something, right?
 
Someone I consider a friend suggested I come onto the boi and speak my side of the story.

Yes Dean and I have been having problems that have nothing to do with this thread. However I did lie to Dean about attempting to work things out with him over the past six months so I can figure out a way I can make it on my own and get back to Kansas City. When he made the deal with Chris, he thought we would be paying the bills together. I never gave him a reason to think otherwise. Life is more peaceful and less fights if I just made it seem like everything is ok. My reason for leaving had nothing to do with his business. I won't put all of Dean's business out there but I do know that my leaving has put a considerable financial hardship on him. His first priority is and always will be the health and wellbeing of his animals, which is where his money first goes. He no longer has an I-Phone, the only reason Utta was able to reach him on his phone is because I told him he had until the end of February to get the phone out of my name. He will more than likely be losing his business phone number, as we can't figure out a way to allow him to port it without me being stuck with the ETF. I can't speak on the communication aspect but I do know that since the seperation started I haven't communicated to people like I should in my life. For those of who, that have me on facebook, you will see my sister asking me if I still have my phone. (If you are reading this Kristyl, sorry I know I told you I misplaced my phone and I should of found time for my sister I know)
I know Dean and I have had our problems and some of them have been posted on this forum for the world to see. I can say for certain that Dean isn't a bad guy. He will make this right with Chris. He hasn't attempted to screw me out of anything and other then him telling me he is bitter and hurt I blindsided him he understands my reasons (which is noones business).
If you aren't going to screw your wife over in a divorce when your bitter and hurt, you aren't going to screw a business deal over. It is just going to take him time to get recouped financially now that he is doing it on his own. Anyone who has gone through a divorce I am sure understands.

Ok, so you lied to your husband. You didn't even give him a heads up when you knew he was getting these animals. You lied to your sister telling you that you lost your phone. You seem to have a problem with honesty. How can I believe anything that you say? Seriously.

Anyway, on to an update. A couple other people sent me PM's stating that they were in contact with Dean and that he lost my number and wanted me to text him today. I'm not sure what time zone he's in so I waited till after 10am eastern to text him. Messages are as follows...

Me at 10:56
Dean, I've had a couple people tell me you're saying you lost my number so here it is. I don't really know what else to say at this point.

Dean at 10:58
I an going to make things right chris i just did not have the means with this whole divorce issue i an having

Me at 11:01
So answer me this... Where is the money order for 900 that you said you sent?

Dean at 11:06
I have been out of my home since all of this went down in dec so i ended up using the refund to say to stay in a weekly motel so i could keep the snakes warm. All the utilities were in her name and shut off. I had on choice but to use the money

Me at 11:20
So you're telling me that you stayed in a motel instead of having your electric turned on? That makes no sense. And what's the reason you've been ignoring my attempts to contact you?

Dean at 11:20
I an not asking anything from you chris but to just trust that i an going to make this right is all

Dean at 11:24
My electric bill was 988.and the has bill which grou even turned on is still 75o.you bed that plus rent on a home among all of the other costs and i end up with no choice

Me at 11:24
I'm sure you can understand my skepticism so I guess all I can say is I'll believe it when I see it.

Dean at 11:25
This phone is in her name so she took it away from of for awhile

Me at 11:29
So with all this financial hardship you're having, how could you ever hope to pay me?

Dean at 11:31
I totally understand where you are coming from but at this point you have nothing to lose right. I will make things right with you but understand that i cannot respond on fauna until after the divorce is finalized.

Dean at 11:33
Well i an only in this until the divorce is finalized to see what i have to give up

Me at 11:45
Well you're right about that. I have nothing more to lose at this point.

Dean at 11:52
So just undertame that i an going to do everything in my power to get this situation resolved an i an not asking you for anything either. You can continue to post about me and all that i font case at this point. Not even asking you to understand. Just accept the money as i send it and i will start sending as early as next week even if it's only a couple hundred

Dean at 12:01
All i can really say is that i will do my best to send you like 2oo a week intil this whole divorce issue is over with and i figure what i dont jose

Me at 2:28
Dean, there's really nothing more for me to say now. If you do in fact start sending money, I will of course make that known as well.

Anyway, that's where we are right now. The typo's in his texts are his, not mine. I didn't include them as sarcasm or to poke fun. I just wanted the texts to be character for character the way they were received.
For those of you who want to believe in Dean, there's enough there for you to hold onto. For those of you who want to hate Dean, there's enough there for you to hold onto. As for me, I'm taking a wait and see stance now. As he said, I have nothing more to lose at this point and life is too short to spend all your time hating on someone. I have much better things to do.
 
Chris, thank you for posting those conversations. If Dean has a couple hundred next week, that's enough to just ship the snakes back to you, right?
 
Chris, thank you for posting those conversations. If Dean has a couple hundred next week, that's enough to just ship the snakes back to you, right?

Chris said he had a closed collection a few pages back.
 
Chris, I just want to say that how your handling this whole situation shows a lot about the type of man you are. We always say that Karma comes back around. Maybe she'll visit you with a kiss soon.

Doesn't sound like there's much more to be said right now (though I'm sure plenty will be) but I DO hope to hear some form of good news next week.
 
Yeah, I don't bring anything back in. I'm a little crazy about my quarantine procedures. I quarantine stuff for years, not months. If I want a particular morph, I buy 1 as a baby and it stays in quarantine until it's adult, ready to breed. If it's shown no sign of illness by then, it's hopefully safe to bring into my collection. Everyone has their own way but that's how I do it. If I were to take these back, I'd have to quarantine them forever before I felt comfortable selling them. Not feasible. Another problem... Although I took pics of the het boas and put them on my site, I never did get around to taking any pics of any of the het balls. I wouldn't even know that I was getting the same animals back and I certainly couldn't sell them as hets. See what I'm saying?
 
Chris, I just want to say that how your handling this whole situation shows a lot about the type of man you are. We always say that Karma comes back around. Maybe she'll visit you with a kiss soon.

Doesn't sound like there's much more to be said right now (though I'm sure plenty will be) but I DO hope to hear some form of good news next week.

Thanks! I'll definitely make it known if I receive any monies or updates on this.
 
Yeah, I don't bring anything back in. I'm a little crazy about my quarantine procedures. I quarantine stuff for years, not months. If I want a particular morph, I buy 1 as a baby and it stays in quarantine until it's adult, ready to breed. If it's shown no sign of illness by then, it's hopefully safe to bring into my collection. Everyone has their own way but that's how I do it. If I were to take these back, I'd have to quarantine them forever before I felt comfortable selling them. Not feasible. Another problem... Although I took pics of the het boas and put them on my site, I never did get around to taking any pics of any of the het balls. I wouldn't even know that I was getting the same animals back and I certainly couldn't sell them as hets. See what I'm saying?

Chris, you are a good snake keeper as well as a classy guy :)
 
Anyway, that's where we are right now. The typo's in his texts are his, not mine. I didn't include them as sarcasm or to poke fun. I just wanted the texts to be character for character the way they were received.

Glad to see that at least some form of contact has been made. I don't have a dog in this fight, so I'm not going to voice too much of an opinion. I don't really give a hoot whether Dean posts here or not as long as he doesn't start avoiding Chris again and Chris finally gets the money owed to him.

I do want to touch on the ability to log on/check the site/etc. and the phone issue ...

If you have an iPhone, you are probably aware of the "auto correct" function (*off topic* if you don't have an iPhone and haven't been embarrassed by this feature enough to turn it off, check out damnyouautocorrect for grins *end off topic*). The "typos" in the string of texts don't appear to be actual typographical errors, more like the autofill that occurs from the iPhone (and probably other smart phones). I would guess whatever phone Dean has been using is more than capable of accessing this site and if he isn't logging on he could view as a guest.

Good luck to you, Chris!
 
Chris, I just want to say that how your handling this whole situation shows a lot about the type of man you are. We always say that Karma comes back around. Maybe she'll visit you with a kiss soon.

Doesn't sound like there's much more to be said right now (though I'm sure plenty will be) but I DO hope to hear some form of good news next week.


I second this. Chris has ABSOLUTELY made it onto my "to buy" list when I'm in the market for some more snakes. He's handled himself fantastically, professionally, and been far more than patient.
 
I second this. Chris has ABSOLUTELY made it onto my "to buy" list when I'm in the market for some more snakes. He's handled himself fantastically, professionally, and been far more than patient.

Chris, you are a good snake keeper as well as a classy guy :)


Thanks guys...err...girls. :eek:

Small update. Dean texted me asking for my mailing address and I texted it back to him.

Dean at 3:03
Text of an address to send too

Me at 4:00
My mailing address is
P.O.Box 515
Elfers, Fl. 34680
I posted all of our texts on the BOI so everyone can see what's going on.


Alright, that's all for now. I want to say thanks again to everyone for all the support, both in here and through PMs. You guys(and girls!) are awesome!
 
Chris-you're definitely a class act!

If I'm ever in the market for something larger than corn snakes and geckos, I'll be looking you up!

:yesnod:
 
The "typos" in the string of texts don't appear to be actual typographical errors, more like the autofill that occurs from the iPhone (and probably other smart phones). I would guess whatever phone Dean has been using is more than capable of accessing this site and if he isn't logging on he could view as a guest.

For what it's worth, that's not entirely true; my old crappy flip phone had "auto fill" and it barely made phone calls and didn't access the web.
 
The iPhone will automatically capitalize the letter "I" when used alone.

I'm glad progress has been made and hope it continues.
 
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