Define a carrot tail ...

[MorphTiles]

I want to know what the consesus is over what makes a leo a carrot tail.

I have heard that it has the ring of orange at the start of the tail and there cant be any black spots. But Isee tons of leos for sale as carrot with tons of black on the lower tail.

 

[Milwaukee Reptiles]

As a general rule I go with 10% of solid carrot starting at the base of the tail (no black interupting the carrot. Less than that to me just has a nice colored tail, more than that I'd consider a carrot.

 

[MorphTiles]

thanks its the no black interupting the carrot part I was looking for, thanks!!!

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I expect a BRIGHT orange without black.

I too have seen MANY leos for sale that were not what I would expect from a CT.

 

[Xavier]

this have been talked about

infact the topic was very lenghty maybe someone can look up to link......

 

[1derfool]

One picture is worth a thousand words....

Some of the differences between true leopard carrot-tails and carrot-tail-wanna-be's.

This is a somwhat old picture, the carrot-tail % has increased greatly over the last few years, but it's good enough to give an idea of how to tell them apart.

 

[Jadormdrache]

you mean red-orange, there is no such thing as orange-red, doesn't anyone use the 1billon crayon box from crayola anymore? lol

 

[Manhattan Herps]

that picture should be posted EVERYWHERE

heres one more picture of a CT, this is my female Dot Lip a few years ago(picture was taken by Alberto(amgecko)

 

[A_Kendergirl]

you mean red-orange, there is no such thing as orange-red, doesn't anyone use the 1billon crayon box from crayola anymore? lol

ROFL - I found that very humorous in a nerdy artist sort of way!

 

[leaftail]

Some of the differences between true leopard carrot-tails and carrot-tail-wanna-be's.

I understand the difference between "true" carrot-tail and the other type of carrot-tail. Also, to mention, that it is genetic. To get a true carrot-tail you must be breeding true carrot-tails.

But what shall we call the other type of carrot-tail? It is pretty and desirable, worth mentioning in ads and descriptions of the leo. I think the fact that there is a difference genetically, between true and the other type carrot-tail is significant enough that it's worth coming up with a term to differentiate. "false" carrot-tail does not appeal to me What should we call it?

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

well...

You all are correct for the most part, but forgot to add the most important aspect of a true carrot-tail... which would be that is has Ray Hine blood in it! He was the breeder to develop the carrot-tail morph, and the first ones were not actually "tangerines" at all. The original Ray Hine carrot-tails are actually more hypo-yellow/golden on the body with solid deep orange (no black) on the upper tail. There is a big difference between a tangerine gecko with a lot of orange in the tail vs. a real carrot-tail. Most have been crossed with the deep orange SHT's we see now to produce Super-hypo tangerine carrot-tails (SHTCT's).

 

[No1snotsucker]

Where is this mysterious Ray Hine Blood geckos at? Where can I get some?

 

[diablohogs]

what about albino ct's that have no hypo gene?

what would you call the orange tail on a red stripe? patterless albino? SHT?

now im confused. by my standsrd it must have at least a solid 15 to 20% carrot to be a "carrot tail", UNLESS it carries the ray hines hypo gene. both qualify in my opinion. if theres the orange coloration yet no official unbroken 15 to 20% at the base of the tail... i just simply refer to the orange coloration as "carrot". but to be A "carrot tail" you must either carry the gene or have the 15 to 20.

for example... i have a ray hines CT super hypo that i crossed with 2 linebred SHTs. the result is a full spectrum of "the official 15+%" down to 1% before its broken or interupted by spots. these animals are ray hines hypos so they are in turn carrot tails but do i call the ones without CT something else? isnt "super hypo tangerine" misleading? wouldnt it imply that my animal does not have the ray hines hypo gene?

we all should sit down and have a meeting to discuss this whole hypo and "what to call what" in leopard geckos issue and we all need to agree on some basic terms so customers know what they are buying and what to search for.

i think were probalby confusing our customers with all these names. its pandamonium!!

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

ha!!!

i think were probalby confusing our customers with all these names. its pandamonium!!

LOL!!! Heck, I was just going to start calling my brownish tangerines "chocolate tangerines"!

Where is this mysterious Ray Hine Blood geckos at?

From Ray Hine!<- click there. I must warn you though... his shipping costs are a little more than you will find around these parts!

(BTW, take a look at Ray Hine's website for HIS definition of a Hybino... )

 

[Gregg M]

In all honesty, I do not think his animals are that great looking.... Maybe it is just his photos but his tangerines are not very orange.....