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Bad Guy do NOT trade/buy from DAMIAN WALEGA IL

j_dunlavy said:
1. would I have been happy with the snakes I got If they were in perfect health when I got them?
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RobNJ said:
If they were perfectly healthy and as described when he got them and was not happy with the trade, he wouldn't have a leg to stand on if he had any complaints.

I agree with you on not taking his two females back if that were to be an option. Best bet is to seek compensation for the vet bills and make others aware of this negative transaction.
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What I meant was: if Andrew likes these snakes and wanted these snakes in the first place then seeking vet bill reimbursement is probably the best and safest approach at this point.

sorry if I was not clear; typing fast in between work stuff
 
Damianwalega said:
First to start of I have sent him breeder animals accept the BEL which is a hatchling. Feeding live rats from time to time a snake coils around its prey, and you cannot notice a bite. This was a minor bite which I did not think it would be a big deal. The bel's under lip I did not notice when the animal was sent out. The rash on the face of the Albino is a shipping rash that occurs when a animal wonders in its bag during shipping. The Phantom that I have received from Andrew has a bite mark which was healed. I offered to send replacements but by the time he agreed on it, it was to cold to ship (Not risking it). I have offered to pay for the VET bill, but I left on vacation. Upon arrival I was waiting to get paid. I would still like to pay for his vet bill only if he agrees on resolving the matter.
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The animal's size is irrelevant if they are injured.
It is YOUR responsibility to breifly examine a snake before you send it out if you stand behind your animals, and that BEL's injury was pretty obvious.
I have never seen a "shipping rash" in my life.
According to the other thread about this, ( http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=445741 ) you dragged your feet about getting pics of potential replacements sent to Andrew, then said it was to cold to ship.
If the phantom he sent you had a healed bite mark (and you are bringing this up now as a negative on his animals) why did you neglect to mention that to him when you received it?

Now for the million dollar question: Why do you think it is OK to skip quarantine?

You should pay his vet bills at the least, maybe compensate him in some way for some of the time he has spent going to the vet.
 
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 28H86286GT541633B)
Jan 23, 2014 Payment To michelle cutler Completed ... -$196.75 USD

I apologize.
 
just so u all know this was DAMIAN WALEGAS comment on my fb boi post in dec 18

Damian Walega
"First of all the phantom female that you have sent me has visible scarring from the past due to rat bites.(this was disclosed to him before the trade it was an old injury from the previous owners) I do monitor my snakes as I feed mainly live. From time to time the snake coils up on its prey, and I'am unable to see if any biting is occurring. Also I don't let a rat in prior to stunning. As far as the deal goes it was a albino breeder male from the picture it did not have a rash on its nose, most likely due to shipping. Snakes tend to rub their noses inside the cloth bag. The small scratch on the albino I did not see if being a issue, for it being a albino any small scratch is visible, scratch was not due to a bite but it being clawed. The Blue Eyed Lucy I had no idea that it had a bite under its head. (it was an abscess and was very visible) I offered to pay for Andrews Vet bill which to this day he won't provide me a bill. (he had the bills) I can assure that he went overboard as far as stating that he had mouth rot, and a RI. (on this post you will see the vet notes) When I started off in this hobby I purchased animals from a breeder that caused all of my animals to die. (then one would think that he would quarantine right?)Since then I'am very anal as far as monitoring temperatures, humidity, and overall a clean cage. I think it was taken to a over extent as far as having to go on forums to clean this mess up which I think to this day wasn't a big deal. (seams like nothing is a big deal to DAMIAN WALEGA) Clean cage, some rubbing alcohol towels, and it would heal. I still want to pay for the vet, but only if he provides me a paypal account. (he said he was going to mail us a cashiers check) (but that night i gave him the bills again and the paypal account)I have traded him a albino breeder male, 2013 BEL, Albino Breeder Female, Het Pied Breeder Female, and a Male Breeder Champagne for a Pewter, and Phantom Breeder. I did not pressure him into trading with me which he has gained consent from his mom. (the deal was for healthy animals) All of those snakes have eaten prior to being sent out. I explained to him that I fed live, and it will take some time for them to start taking Frozen Thawed. (Sorry for the cell phone reply, I'am constantly working)"

someone on that post asked to see a pic of the inside of the albinos mouth and DAMIAN WALEGA commented "and dont sprinkle cinnimon powder in his mouth either"


AND as to what damian wrote here " I have offered to pay for the VET bill, but I left on vacation. Upon arrival I was waiting to get paid. I would still like to pay for his vet bill only if he agrees on resolving the matter."

he had that backwards *see screen shots* he said tomorrow" then waiting on a check to clear" THEN "when i get back from vacation" then " tomorrow" and he did not pay then
 
in several years I have received and shipped snakes I never hear or seen the rash happen. heck I had a snake in a bag for 3 days due to being a rescue and had not finished the cage ( due to the rain ) It never had a rash. I had more issues with mites than I had with injuries in snakes.
 
resolution

j_dunlavy... ""If I were in your shoes, I would be satisfied with getting the vet bills covered by him (and I doubt he will do that given his attitude).
Honestly I would be afraid to trade back the snakes because of his lack of quarantine; who knows what may have made it's way into his collection since the trade.""



i am sorry if i am repeating myself but i previously posted that there is a HUGE concern getting any snake/snakes back from DAMIAN WALEGA due to his poor husbandary issues.
any snake/snakes we would get back from DAMIAN WALEGA would go imediately to our vet (at our expence of course) AND be put into quarantine like his 5 are now.... on dec 6 we asked him to ship our 2 girls back and we would ship his 5 back...he said no (because he was breeding them)... he can NOT be trusted and one of the snakes he gave us in the trade is a 100% het pied ( probably just a normal)

he did put $196.75 into my moms account at
Date: Jan 23, 2014
Time: 16:37:27 PST
after the fb boi post and notifying him of this one at 4:22 pm

i guess i am lucky that i even got that.... but the snakes need a recheck this week. he is and has been aware of this... he should pay for that too..
we are kindof attached to the little bell probably because we have had to give injections and special care to him :)
he had a rorugh start and refused to eat but im proud to say that he has gained 105gs since we have had him he is at 243gs. god only knows where he would be now if he was with damian.... (because he didnt think it was a big deal and the vet visit was not nessasary) the surjury and every 3 days of injectable antibiotics definately helped him :)

please dont judge me for saying this but had damian handled things differently and in a professional manner he should have sent our 2 girls back to us (which in a way i still want him to do.) because imo he reneged on the deal by being dishonest and by failing to disclose these injuries. if he had i would NEVER HAD AGREED TO THIS DEAL..

and again i feel like he should be acountable.
i doubt he will reinburse us for the recheck and honestly i do not want to keep dealing with this type of person but i am going to ask damian are you willing to send our 2 girls back and we will send your 5 back. (and you can take the bel for a recheck, that you say is not nessasary) we will pay one way to ship and we will pay to have our girls vet checked and quarantine them to make sure they are ok?????
this is what i feel will make this right (even though it took us this long and we had to go through so much to even get you to pay for the 2 current vet bills secause of your neglagance!!!!!!!!!!

acording to him "im getting such a bad ass deal" (before we got the snakes...
 

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I think he's pointing out that, after the fees, he wasn't made whole.

Andrew, you were wronged, but now you seem really vindictive. I don't think you can get the vet bills, the BEL, and your two (possibly gravies) snakes.

Perhaps he'd be more willing to pay the PayPal fees and the follow-up visits (which he should) if you'd stop twisting the knife. 'Probably just a normal' was uncalled for.

When did you tell him the Phantom you sent was scarred?
 
paypal fees

i get charged with paypal fees??? . so more out of my pocket, doesnt seam fair to me.. the recheck will prob be 60 unless the albino has to be on more meds..

damian are you going to answer the question to you? heading says resolution...
 
I gotcha, Rob, I just knew there was a pic already posted of the same thing above, so I didn't know why he was excited about this.

Andrew, of course there are PayPal fees, that is a given. I'm sorry it was a surprise to you. I think I would hang my hat up now, you got very close to having all your vet bill paid, and you are dealing with someone who isn't very stable in the snake business. I would call it a win and run with it. Karma is a bitch, and what goes around comes around. I think you will are the bigger person in the end, and please appreciate that you have an obviously loving mother and support system, which is more than most people can say. (Now go give her a hug!) and know that you aren't the first (nor will be the last) person to get hosed on a deal. It happens to the smartest and brightest, you have to trust people, and most of them are good people. The ones that aren't will get theirs in the end.

Trust me.
 
I just asked you a question, too.

Here's another one: how many owners has that Phantom had?

I already said he should pay for the follow-up and for PayPal fees.
 
please i am not trying to argue, i am a good kid with a good heart, maybe a little to nieve and trusting but......

rob,
"Andrew, you were wronged, but now you seem really vindictive. I don't think you can get the vet bills, the BEL, and your two (possibly gravies) snakes"

i am by no means vindictive.
i never asked for the bel and our 2 girls back i asked DAMIAN for our 2 girls back (instead of "replacements") and i will ship his 5 back, i asked him this in dec and had he done that back then he wouldnt even have the vet bills he has dragged this out as long as he could, as for them possibly being preggo, that is on him IMO they shouldnt have beed breeding.... damian knew the day we recieved his snakes that we werent happy AND more importantly they should have and still should be in quaranteen..
twisting the knife regarding my statement "probably a normal" imo once a lyer always a lyer and because of his actions he can not be trusted anyone can say oh she is a %100 het pied without papework and it not coming from a reputable/trustworthy breeder that is a concern we have now. until and if it proves out itIS a normal, i wasnt twisting a knife

before the trade i told him and sent a pic of her to him and after i complained about his rat bitten snakes he sent he asked about it and i sald again we feed f/t and she was like that before we got her

smgion,
he was originally going to send us a cashiers check "that we never got" anyone who uses paypal knows there are fees and he should have either sent it to family and friends whee i wouldnt have been charged or added the fees to the payment..

and the phantom was bought from nerd and the byer sold her to us
 
andrew_snake_sale said:
please i am not trying to argue, i am a good kid with a good heart, maybe a little to nieve and trusting but......

smgion,
he was originally going to send us a cashiers check "that we never got" anyone who uses paypal knows there are fees and he should have either sent it to family and friends whee i wouldnt have been charged or added the fees to the payment..
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I am so sorry this happened to you, I have been on the receiving end of a raw deal too. You are not naive, you are young but OBVIOUSLY have a good heart, and this guy felt he could take advantage of you.

You will come across other situations like this in life, unfortunately it does happen. I agree he should have paid the PayPal fee, but consider it the cost of doing business. Be the bigger person in this. Since the exchange of the snakes is not a viable option anymore, take a deep breath, and let it go for tonight. Don't let it eat you up, too many people let problems fester when they should just let go.

I posted on another thread about selling a car to a "friend" who screwed me over for $2500, he paid after 2 years, but I was out about another $100 in court costs and fees. I was letting it consume my life and I was really getting bitter about the whole thing when someone told me what I am telling you now. I actually did forget about it for almost a year and then the payment showed up, but I was a much happier person when I let it go. Sure, you will think about it now and again but you will also LEARN from it. I think of the guy who took advantage of me here and there and I know how much better my life is than his, he was pretty much run out of town across the country to get away from his problems, and now it makes me laugh.

YOU are the better person in this. Don't let it make you the bitter person in this.
 
Andrew needs to get full payment without the paypal fees. Damien needs to send the money via gift and not buying an item(Damien needs to handle the fees on his part).

Also Andrew has the right to be angry and vindictive, he was screwed over.
 
mikoh4792 said:
Also Andrew has the right to be angry and vindictive, he was screwed over.
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Vindictiveness is an ugly trait all around and turns good people to bad very quickly, so no, he doesn't have a right to be vindictive....

smigon said:
Andrew, of course there are PayPal fees, that is a given.
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Actually Michelle, it's very easy to send money via PayPal without the recipient getting hit with fees. Since Damian was not purchasing goods, he should have went that route(or send a money order). Andrew is more than entitled to that $6 ...

As this thread goes on, I'm starting to catch the stench of trader's remorse. Andrew is being hypocritical of himself, ragging on Damian's lack of quarantine, and then wanting those very snakes that were not quarantined back. Andrew, you got your money for vet expenses, you got snakes that will be just fine. Damian's response and compensation for vet expenses was not received by you in a timely fashion, but it could have gone much worse. It appears obvious to me why you would want your breeder girls back, but it was your decision to trade them in the first place.

And lastly, Damian, I was critical of you in my first post, and doubtful that you would even make an attempt to rectify the situation, so I do apologize for that....but, in a situation like this, you would be far better off addressing concerns when brought up, not when you eventually get around to it.
 
THANK YOU mikoh4792 :)

rob,
i have every right to be pissed and let others aware of damians wrongdoings, but there is a difference between being pissed and vindictive

pissed off ........ chiefly US, informal + impolite : very angry or annoyed at someone


vindictive - showing malicious ill will and a desire to hurt; motivated by spite

vin·dic·tive (vn-dktv)
1. Disposed to seek revenge; revengeful.
2. Marked by or resulting from a desire to hurt; spiteful.

traders remorse????? when i got the snakes DAMIAN was notified imediately.....i was justifyably pissed because i got 2 injured/sick snakes and he was making it out to be normal and not a big deal...
he did not give me what he was supposed to which was 5 healthy snakes ../.. remember he said "your (me) getting such a bad ass deal". i expected to get healthy snakes like i gave to him.
getting nowhere with him on dec 6 we asked for our snakes back so i wouldnt have to incur vet bills and possibly infect my other animals.... at that point IMO he shoulkd have sent my 2 girls back and taken his 5 back... that in my opinion would have been what a real and reputable breeder would have done... not giving me BS, lies and a headache for 2 months...
what irratates me the most is that i had to chase the money for the 1st 2 vet bills and he made 4-5 excuses, he ignored me and only when i brought the issue to the fb and fauna boi did he partially stepped up. on dec 17/18 on fb boi he publicly said he was going to pay for the vet BILLSSS AND send replacements!!!!!!!!! no i dont want to get more shit (replacements) from damian, you are right there is a very high chance that the relacements could be sick because of his husbandry issues.........
DAMIAN WALEGA and the trade we did made me very discouraged and unenthusiastic with ball python trades, my mom is upset and is probably not going to let me trade again with anyone (which i am going to be veryyyy careful if i even do it again). its to bad that people like damian ruin it for us new herpers, and this is why i said i just want my snakes back and i will send his back.... not really hypicritical just dont want the reminders (his 5 snakes) of the scetchy trade with DAMIAN WALEGA.

i hope you can try to see it from my poit of view. this was my first trade... and it was and has been AWEFUL. he has been very unprofessional and rude and i want to be done with him, but want him to be fair also... he should make this right!!!!!!!!
 
this is how professional damian walega is....... just on fb boi
and he has nothing to back his accusations because they are lies...


Damian Walega
"Stop with the spreading that I don't take care of my animals Andrew Cutler Claiming how if the BEL was still in my possession it would not grow. Here is the sibling to the bell I have sent andrew, which was the same weight, who is doing a better job? I feed, I clean, I take care of my animals, I'am not going to let a problem I tried resolving bring me down. I also will not deal with children."

Andrew Cutler
" i never said it wouldnt grow.... that sibling didnt have an absessed and infected jaw like the one you sent me did it???"


Damian Walega
"You stated that all my animals are sick, dying, and lack husbandry."

Andrew Cutler
" whos doing a better job? really Damian Walega maybe you should have sent me that one instead of pawning the bel that has the absess on its jaw off to me..... i have had to give the bel and the albino antibiotics every 3 days for a month. both those snakes had rat bites and health issues, the bel is going for a recheck this week. i have taken veryyyy good care of them..... the girls i send you you didnt quarinteen them and started breeding them in ledd than 2 weeks of having them.... hmmmmm"


Drew Podietz
This debate is still going on ?? Dam just let a dead horse lay


Andrew Cutler
"where did i ever say all of your animals are sick and dying???? please show a screen shot or something to back that up.. i have never said that....."

Damian Walega
" cut your finger and see a doctor, you have a health issue, I mean head issues. I'am done with you".


Josh Hammons
" STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
 
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