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Do these collards look liek they might breed?

Ooohhh...he's very pretty! And what a fattie...very, very nice. I'm not sure about Collareds and size, but I know with some species (like our Frillies) the male is much larger than the female...and they should be just fine, as long as they are both healthy and well taken care of.

One question, though. It looks to me like you have them outside in a glass aquarium. Is that how they are set up?
 
yeah, i dont have a heat lamp and i had a snake in there and my mom was like NOOO WAAAY! i couldt keep them inside yet, i need to make a trip to petsmart anyways, then im gunna get a heat lamp and some good sand, and a waterdish and other crap. it was just my birthday so im spending some of my money on that.
 
moms rely phobic about reptiles so, but shes let me keep them inside before, i even bought a reptile leash for one of my other collards. im gunna try to go today, when my mom gos to pick up there girls from school(im homeschooled) and also my sister gos to dance, so i can get some in that time because my mom will be out.
 
i just talked to my mom and she acted like she might let me bring them inside because my snake got out of HIS cage somehow...i have a 20 gallon aquarium, do you think thats enough for these?
 
Totally understood. I'm sure you've already thought of this, but they will need a spot to get out of the heat, as the sun shining through the glass has the potential to just bake them. Also, the glass will filter out the UVB that they need to metabolize their vitamins. So you may want to have part of the enclosure out of the sun so they have a place to retreat to for now. And when you get your bulbs, make sure you get them both a heat lamp AND a UVB bulb...or one of the all-in-one bulbs, like Zoo Med Active Heat. The all-in-one bulbs are very powerful and should only be used in larger sized enclosures (like a 40 gallon up). If you are going to give them UVB by a fluorescent tube, Reptisun 10.0 is a fantastic bulb...and a standard household light bulb works just fine for heat...no need to spend a fortune on the "reptile bulbs" from the pet store.

For the sand, you can get a really nice washed and sifted playsand from Home Depot for about $5-6 for a 50 pound bag. This sand is much safer and much less expensive than any CalciSand or any of the other "reptile sands".

Have you been able to find a reliable feeder insect place yet? I know I gave you one link...but there are many feeder insect companies that you can look into. You're going to need a really reliable, clean supplier for feeders as all of these Collareds look like they've been eating a LOT!

Again, I'm sure these are all things you've thought of...so forgive me if I'm repeating stuff you already know.
 
Saladragon said:
Totally understood. I'm sure you've already thought of this, but they will need a spot to get out of the heat, as the sun shining through the glass has the potential to just bake them. Also, the glass will filter out the UVB that they need to metabolize their vitamins. So you may want to have part of the enclosure out of the sun so they have a place to retreat to for now. And when you get your bulbs, make sure you get them both a heat lamp AND a UVB bulb...or one of the all-in-one bulbs, like Zoo Med Active Heat. The all-in-one bulbs are very powerful and should only be used in larger sized enclosures (like a 40 gallon up). If you are going to give them UVB by a fluorescent tube, Reptisun 10.0 is a fantastic bulb...and a standard household light bulb works just fine for heat...no need to spend a fortune on the "reptile bulbs" from the pet store.

For the sand, you can get a really nice washed and sifted playsand from Home Depot for about $5-6 for a 50 pound bag. This sand is much safer and much less expensive than any CalciSand or any of the other "reptile sands".

Have you been able to find a reliable feeder insect place yet? I know I gave you one link...but there are many feeder insect companies that you can look into. You're going to need a really reliable, clean supplier for feeders as all of these Collareds look like they've been eating a LOT!

Again, I'm sure these are all things you've thought of...so forgive me if I'm repeating stuff you already know.
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when i go to petsmart, im gunna buy a bag of crickets, but also i think ill start buying from that online store you gave me. and im on petsmart.com adding up prices, terrariums and such. im thinking i need a bigger one because they sometimes dig at the sides when i come near the cage, but looking out the window now there just sittin on there rocks. and yes part of the cage is out of the sun.
 
Good for you! I really do think it would be better for the Collareds to be indoors since they are enclosed.

As for the enclosure size, how big are they right now? I would think a 20 gallon would work while they are baby to juvie size...but then they'll need something larger once they're full grown. I'm not sure what size enclosure they would need when they're full grown, as that wasn't specified on the care sheets that I looked at. All they said was that Collareds need "a large enclosure". Great description, huh? I know with beardies, a 4' long x 2' wide x 2' tall enclosure is what's recommended for a pair of adults. If the Collareds are comparable sized as adults, I would think the same sized enclosure would work for them.

Robotchicken09 said:
i just talked to my mom and she acted like she might let me bring them inside because my snake got out of HIS cage somehow...i have a 20 gallon aquarium, do you think thats enough for these?
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I've looked at the same terrariums, and they are really, really nice. I do think that they would be better to use for a very small animal, though. The largest size these terrariums come in is kind of cost prohibitive, when compared to just a plain glass tank. You might want to do some calling around and see if you can find some decent prices on a 40-60 gallon breeder tank. I know from our local petstore, we can get a 60 gallon for about $75. It's the type with the locking screen lid...no escapees there! You might also try fish stores, as that's what our petstore is that sells the really good priced tanks.

For your other supplies (like light fixtures, bulbs, etc.) a really good place is www.reptiledirect.com. You'll see a very large price difference between them and Petsmart.

Robotchicken09 said:
http://www.petsmart.com/global/prod...4692056142&itemNo=9&In=Reptile&N=2030170&Ne=2
im think i might buy a new terrarium, tell me what you think about these that i post
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hey, ah were do i mount the bulbs? what do i use to put them over the cage and have them light up? or does that come with the bulbs?
 
Ummm...I hate to say it, but you're probably going to need more than one bag of crickets. If these guys are anything like my beardies, they'll eat upwards of 50 crickets a day...EACH. You may want to talk to Petsmart and see if you can buy a box of crickets (which should be 1000). That way you'll have enough to get you through until your order comes in. Also, if you get them some good greens, like turnip or mustard...and some veggies and fruits, all of which are very inexpensive...that would be good. They need to be offered a varied diet, and not just all crickets.

Robotchicken09 said:
when i go to petsmart, im gunna buy a bag of crickets, but also i think ill start buying from that online store you gave me. and im on petsmart.com adding up prices, terrariums and such. im thinking i need a bigger one because they sometimes dig at the sides when i come near the cage, but looking out the window now there just sittin on there rocks. and yes part of the cage is out of the sun.
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Saladragon said:
I've looked at the same terrariums, and they are really, really nice. I do think that they would be better to use for a very small animal, though. The largest size these terrariums come in is kind of cost prohibitive, when compared to just a plain glass tank. You might want to do some calling around and see if you can find some decent prices on a 40-60 gallon breeder tank. I know from our local petstore, we can get a 60 gallon for about $75. It's the type with the locking screen lid...no escapees there! You might also try fish stores, as that's what our petstore is that sells the really good priced tanks.

For your other supplies (like light fixtures, bulbs, etc.) a really good place is www.reptiledirect.com. You'll see a very large price difference between them and Petsmart.
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well 60 gallons are...well...ehhh...hmm...you dunt know how my mom and dad work, my dads a grump 24/7 and always tells me the lizards are gunna die, and my mom says it HAS to look good, also i only have 100$ to spend so.
 
Saladragon said:
Ummm...I hate to say it, but you're probably going to need more than one bag of crickets. If these guys are anything like my beardies, they'll eat upwards of 50 crickets a day...EACH. You may want to talk to Petsmart and see if you can buy a box of crickets (which should be 1000). That way you'll have enough to get you through until your order comes in. Also, if you get them some good greens, like turnip or mustard...and some veggies and fruits, all of which are very inexpensive...that would be good. They need to be offered a varied diet, and not just all crickets.
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ive read that they dont need that much crickets, only about 3 a day and any they dont eat should be taken out for the night
 
Well...if you're planning on going with the UVB fluorescent tube and a heat lamp, you'll need a fluorescent fixture and a reflector dome. Retile Direct carries a bulb/fixture combo here...

http://www.reptiledirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=696

And you can get a reflector dome at Home Depot for about $6 or so. It comes with a clamp. If you get them a 40-60 gallon tank with the locking screen top, you can just lay the fluorescent fixture directly on the screen...and same thing with the reflector dome. You could also just clamp the reflector dome to the side of the tank, but you may not be able to create as much of a hot spot as they'll need.

Oh...forgot to mention that you'll probably need a digital thermometer with a probe. I know they have them at Petsmart, and they should run about $8-10. You can also get them online at Reptile Direct. The stick on thermometers ARE NOT accurate...and are not recommended.

Robotchicken09 said:
hey, ah were do i mount the bulbs? what do i use to put them over the cage and have them light up? or does that come with the bulbs?
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ide realy love tyo give them a 60 gallon aqauarium, but i just cant afford it, nor will my mom go for it...she will probably let me keep them in that 20 gallon i have, but idk if thats enough. gah, never knew reptiles were so expensive to take care of!!
 
there bodys are only like 4 or so inches long, there tails are about 8 or so, idk if a 20 is big enough, you think they would still mate in it?
 
A 40 gallon is about 36" long, 15 1/2" deep, and 18 or so high. I believe we paid about $50 or so for our 40 gallon. I know our local Petsmart has tanks, but they are pretty expensive compared to what we get them for at the fish store. If you have any reptile shows in your area, you could probably get a good priced tank there, too.

Really, I do understand your predicament...but I'm also trying to help you. No animal, whether reptilian or mammal is cheap to keep. And if you're going to keep them, you really need to do your best to offer them what they need to be happy and healthy.

I don't know where you read that they only need 3 crickets a day, but I don't believe that's very accurate. I know any lizard in captivity should be fed as much as it can eat in a 15 minute period, at least once a day (depending on whether it's an adult or growing baby/juvie). I can assure you that if these lizards are fed the way they should be fed, they will eat much more than 3 crickets a day.
 
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