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Im looking to get info and maybe a website for Hary Eisman or H.C.E. i am thinking about buying some het pieds that were produced by H.C.E and would like to verify them. any help would be great thanks so much

ALL THINGS REPTILES
 
aahh
Good old Harry of Digital Reptiles otherwise knows as HCE
With his fake receipt from the people he supposedly bought his pied from.

Do a search on his last name. There are TONS of information.
 
Here is a little information on the guy doing business as harry of HCE


He is DEAD.

He died over four years ago.

So the guy posting as him around here is probably his SON BRUCE

Again I will say this HE IS DEAD

harry eisenmann fort mill - mr. harry c. eisenmann, 79, of 147 cedar hollow south in heritage usa died friday, may 28, 1999, at home. a memorial service will be 3 p.m. today at lifespring ministries church, with pastor randy worley officiating. a native of cleveland, ohio.......
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GO read the thread below this one about Caroilina Reptile Exchange being broke into.

Then go read the thread about the HCE ad on KS and how it is 'fishy'.
Pay close attention to the details coming out on the last couple pages about the theft.
 
All the highly fishy and suspicious stuff aside, there's nothing wrong with naming a business after your dad who is deceased.

There would definitely be something wrong if somebody was actually claiming to BE this deceased individual. Shades of Norman Bates and Psycho there.
 
This was "supposedly" posted by Harry last year:

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our original name was digital reptiles,that partner and I split in sept 02,he kept the name ,I became HCE
my SON,Bruce,helped with phone calls and shipping till jan 03,he is now on his own.
he does have some of my animals.Bruce is no longer associated with me in any way
our original hets were purchased localy from a broker known as Rattley reptiles.
we have since purchased 4 pieds,ands 3 other hets
we produced 3 cluches of 66s last year ,from our 1.4 hets,resulting in 4 pieds,as well as 1 cluch of 100%s from our male visual to a normal female(late in the year)
this year we produced the same so far exept on 2 pieds,and 2 cluches of pied to pied
WE WILL NOT REPOND TO ENTRAPMENT EMAILS,WHICH ARE ONES WE FIND BEING 2 FACED AND RUNNING TO THE BOI WITH WHATEVER IS SAID
it is my policy to only post and give pictures of animals which have eaten
we will not ship to ANYONE,regardless of who they think they are,without payment!
we cover genetics for life,
these statments do NOT hold true for either of my 2 sons who are currently in the business
why is my sons record having bearing on me?
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Regards.
 
I agree, there is nothing wrong with continuing a business in your dad's memory or whatever. I remember the post from last year that Alvaro just copied and put in this thread. It speaks as HARRY and referring to HIS son, Bruce. How can that be when he has been dead for nearly 4 years? THis guy is FULL of scam and deception.
 
Damn. Kinda makes you wonder if he also puts on his mother's clothes and sits in her rocking chair, doesn't it? :eek2:
 
He has claimed to be Harry to me on several occasions so I guess the Norman Bates label sticks. My personal opinion is any balls you buy from the guy are going to be triple het for not a damn thing.
 
Bill,
That is just crazy! I am not even sure how one would respond to that?!?!

I would strongly suggest everyone watch their funds and don't buy from them...........at least until:
1. You know who you are dealilng with
2. Some of these people prove (or disprove) the 'hets' that are already out there from them.
 
I would beware of these two!!!

I sent payment to Harry & Bruce E. last year for a male argentine sideneck turtle. It took four months of emailing & calling on a daily basis just to get a refund- and we were given over a dozen "guaranteed" ship dates, as well as tracking #'s when the animal was never even in their possession, much less shipped or even boxed!
They told me that there was Grandpa aka Harry Sr., Dad aka Harry Jr., and Son- Bruce(who was the worst of the bunch to deal with, creating fake tracking #'s and pretending that the animal had shipped...)
Finally, after talking with Harry Sr., we were able to get a full refund, but way too much hassel and drama to ever have to deal with. He finally claimed that they had never had the turtle & not been able to obtain it, and that Bruce was a minor & should have never sold it in the first place?????

Anyway- buyer beware is the bottom line with these guys- whoever they are.

BK Baker
The Creature Company
 
Re: I would beware of these two!!!

Originally posted by The Creature Co
Finally, after talking with Harry Sr., we were able to get a full refund, but way too much hassel and drama to ever have to deal with. He finally claimed that they had never had the turtle & not been able to obtain it, and that Bruce was a minor & should have never sold it in the first place?????
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I think I get what is going on with this place. It's haunted. Dead people answer their phone. If you make any orders with this company that never show up, the only way you can talk to the customer complaint department is by using a Ouija board. Makes sense to me.

Maybe they were only going to sell you the ghost of the turtle. [plays Twilight Zone theme music in the background] Dee dee dee dee, dee dee dee dee....

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Re: Re: I would beware of these two!!!

snakegetters said:
the only way you can talk to the customer complaint department is by using a Ouija board. Makes sense to me.

Maybe they were only going to sell you the ghost of the turtle. [plays Twilight Zone theme music in the background] Dee dee dee dee, dee dee dee dee....

:scatter:
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I think I just sprained a rib! LOL!!! OMG That was funny. Hey, I know. Maybe if you say his name three times he will appear! Ready? Drumroll please........Beetleju....er-uhhh, sorry. Wrong ghost. O.K. Here we go.........Candyma.....oops, wrong again! Oh yeah. Harry! Harry! Harry! What the @#$%??? It's Bruce! How did he do that?

Goodnight.

Michael
 
Now that I read the other thread...

Now it all makes sense! Wow, if I had seen the other thread I never would have sent my paypal to a DEAD MAN. How could I have expected reasonable customer service or an animal to be shipped, a little hard to do if your no longer breathing. Seems like they should have let his paypal account EXPIRE TOO! LOL
Well, I should would like to know who the nice old man that I spoke to was that finally "resolved" our situation, seeing that it couldn't have been Harry....

What a Joke!

BK Baker
The Creature CO
 
the nice old man was probably bruce wearing his dad's clothes.
Crouching in the corner in the fetal position wishing his dad was still alive so he can have help running his scams.


Can we have a link to that obituary you found ?
 
Hey Guys. This is too confusing.... can we consider this thread ended now since we have the othe one. There is no information here that is not already widely visible on the other thread...

Thanks!
 
Wish I would have known about these guys before i did my deals with him. I could have got a 100% pied from a dealer that was gonna sell one of his males to me for 750.00, But I saw Bruce's post and he said he would go 500.00, so I took the 500.00 deal, He did have a picture of bellie photo guaranttee, and Harry and his signature so I figured he was on the up and up, so I did the deal, I even saw the ADULT PIEDS and Albino in South Carolina only then did I do the deal. It looked to be a Het pied since it did have all of the looks that some of the big breeders look for in POSS hets. So it looked to be for real. I did see the adult PIEDs, I even snapped a few pictures of them. Ever thing was OK until I got the next shippment of 1.3 HET pieds with the ticks to boot. That is when I started getting uneasy about the original 2 males purchased for 500.00 for the one and a wamena Green tree python for the other. I also got 1.2 100% het albinos in a different trade at the South Carolina show. It was only after I got the bad shippment of Tick BALLS, He gave them to me and sent me 1.4 more with letter from his dad signed by Harry C. Eisenman. I have copy's of all the e-mails Harry/Bruce, NOAH, ETC. sent me. I will raise my snake up if they don't prove out I will just be screwed, But I will do everything that I can to get my $$$$ back, since I have documented everything down and have copy's of every E-mail Noah or BRUCE have sent to me. May help may not. I was told by NOAH that harry/Bruce was in Ohio and sick on 10/12/03. He told me that Harry was Bruce and that Bruce helped him out but he was the owner of Carolina Reptile Exchange. I may have them E-mails also. Any more info would help. Thanks DAVID
 
snakebstr,

I did see the adult PIEDs, I even snapped a few pictures of them.
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Do you still have the pics of the pieds?
If so, can you post them here?
 
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