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I meant your phone number, How am I openly poisting it because your phone number is on your website. Plus, I don't see what it matters posting a number to a phone that doesn't work anyways, as you've stated. So I don't see what you're getting at, and yeah, I know your camera doesnt work, You've told me before in an e-mail. As for your website, it works just fine. As for your business skills of calling/e-mailing people to inform them that your phone isn't working...they are really lacking.
 
Lynn said:
I THINK THOSE BABIES WERE TO YOUNG TO BE SHIPPED PERIOD. :(
I will not sell my dragons until they are 2 1/2 inches from nose to vent. This puts then around 2 months old. They are well started then.
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i haven't even heard of shipping dragons Less then that Lynn. I agree, the babies were WAY to young to ship them. But i was told I was being rude by telling the seller so, it must be true and I must not know what i'm talking about. I guess maybe I was high on Viccodin and Percs that day. Guess John and Cheryl must've been high on something too :p
 
Size of Babies

Well....i don't see how they are 2" Nose to Vent...Here's some Pictures...anyone else see how they are??? Just took them to disprove this theory!
 

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(your just diiging a deeper hole..)
It should be digging.. Sorry this just ticks me off. its all about money and not the well being of the dragons in this case....
 
I haven't been on here long, but I know Jess (HecticLifeReptiles) and I know that she wouldn't lie.

You, dragonsandtails, should get your facts straight and apologize to Jess. When you keep digging that hole, no one is going to help you out. Seriously.

You should be re-thinking the care of your bearded dragons, and get money off of your mind.
 
Pictures Clarification!

Yes and Tawny (second Dragon) is my Biggest the first picture is Blue Boy, as you who know me, he is my "runt" and the one i stayed up with many nights to make sure he'd make it! Oh you want me to scoot her up, okay let me go take that pic for you....here it is! The first picture is of Tawny, the Second is of Fire and the Third of "the runt" Blue Boy. I also Decided to use my designers ruler which is flat and easier to measure dragons with, still not there...sorry.
 

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Sorry Brenda, first we don't edited or delete BOI posts if they don't violate the site rules. So no, we have no interest in addressing this.

Secondly, the number is a matter of public record. There is nothing private about it. You have used it in multiple places.

You have made it public in association with your business.

Not only that, you have used it here(on this site) in your ads as well.


EMAIL: [email protected]
CELL: (818)577-7367 call or text.
SITE: www.dragonsandtails.com [YOU can find more pictures on our website if you look at our dragons]
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Just like now you are using this phone in your current AD.
EMAIL: [email protected]
CELL: (661)904-0108 Ask for Brenda. Thankyou! You can text as well.
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If you don't want your information posted, I would suggest not posting it yourself.
 
I may breed boa and ball morphs instead of dragons, but I do have a dragon and I doubt that mine (I currently only have the one) is the only one with a vent NOT on the tail! The only way you can measure any of those dragons at 2-2 1/2 inches from nose to vent is IF their vent was halfway down the tail!!
 
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Matt2979 said:
I may breed boa and ball morphs instead of dragons, but I do have a dragon and I doubt that mine (I currently only have the one) is the only one with a vent NOT on the tail! The only way you can measure any of those dragons at 2-2 1/2 inches from nose to vent is IF their vent was halfway down the tail!!
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And thats why many measure Nose to Tail and state if there was a tail nip. lol
 
Look I made some irresponsible choices, I havent been breeding for that long. Right now I cant afford to take care of them so Im selling my whole collection so they can get the proper care and attention they deserve. Im not some animal abuser your making me out to be. Im a huge reptile and every single other kind of animal lover.
 
dragonsandtails said:
Look I made some irresponsible choices, I havent been breeding for that long. Right now I cant afford to take care of them so Im selling my whole collection so they can get the proper care and attention they deserve. Im not some animal abuser your making me out to be. Im a huge reptile and every single other kind of animal lover.
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Well, that's slightly better. You should still apologize to Jessy Jess, and maybe give her a refund.
 
dragonsandtails said:
Look I made some irresponsible choices, I havent been breeding for that long. Right now I cant afford to take care of them so Im selling my whole collection so they can get the proper care and attention they deserve. Im not some animal abuser your making me out to be. Im a huge reptile and every single other kind of animal lover.
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I find it commendable that you are willing to sell off your entire collection if you can not properly care for it. And it's just lovely that you love animals so much. But NONE of that excuses the way you treated those babies by shipping them so young....and the way you charged an exorbitant amount of money for baby dragons that were too young to ship anyhow.

If you're really the good person you claim to be, then you will refund the FULL price for the animal that died, and a significant portion for the babies that are still alive....and you'd offer up a sincere apology.
 
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I find it commendable that you are willing to sell off your entire collection if you can not properly care for it. And it's just lovely that you love animals so much. But NONE of that excuses the way you treated those babies by shipping them so young....and the way you charged an exorbitant amount of money for baby dragons that were too young to ship anyhow.

If you're really the good person you claim to be, then you will refund the FULL price for the animal that died, and a significant portion for the babies that are still alive....and you'd offer up a sincere apology.
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:iagree::iagree: Well said.:thumbsup:
 
If you guys read the other post I had posted, a pretty decent sized one, i gave her a sincere apology, and once again I am very sorry. Its not just that I cant take care of them, I can afford to feed them but I just dont have time to spend with them anymore like I use to, and its not right. My animals arent just for breeding. I breed dumbo rats as pets too and have to handle them daily so they are sociable, and I cant do both, its very difficult. The dragon was 3 weeks when i shipped and 2 in' snout to vent, I was told by a different breeder I was doing a trade with at a time that this was fine. Things were so crazy because of the runt had a yellow spot, which I have no clue what it is. The baby beardie did not die in a 24 hour time period, and I never agreed to a refund because she never asked BEFORE hand. Thanks all.
 
I never agreed to a refund because she never asked BEFORE hand.
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She should not HAVE to ask beforehand. YOU know those babies were too young and small to ship, YOU admitted to being irresponsible. YOU have admitted you are just too overwhelmed (?) to care for your animals properly.

Unfortunately, it's also obvious you really don't know how to properly care for and sell your animals if you have to depend upon someone else (the other breeder) to tell you that shipping at 2" STV is fine. It is not.

You get points for admitting to being irresponsible - you lose more points for making excuses, selling weak, tiny hatchlings and not caring about your animals, only the $ you can make off them.
Animals suffer and die because you are overwhelmed and can't do right by them?
You lose. Period.
 
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