Info Drew Elliot - ReptileOfConcernInc/Andrew Biddle - MajorLeagueConstrictors Same Person

[FosterHerpetological]

Did you ship the animal or give it to him in person?

Im no way back Drew up or anything, but I can say he does at least visit VA frequently or has family there. I met up with him and did a trade in VA.

No I dont know if he recently moved to Florida or what-not, just throwing that information in there...

 

[ShadowAceD]

PMs between Drew Elliot and I. He does not seem to want to clear his name with the BOI.

Aren't you Andrew Biddle?

Nope sorry

I had a feeling you'd say that.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1309925#post1309925

Would you like a picture of my dl?
I know andrew but usually avoid that subject because of his rep. So before you post you need to get your facts straight. Those pics of the servals are actually mine. If you notice in his post it says there belong to a friend. Smart guy

So ... what, Andrew just happens to be sitting in that pic with that Croc Monitor? He also just happens to be posting under a new name on RepticZone with that Croco Monitor trying to claim he is a new member?

You are in VA, but your photo's EXIF data just happen to be showing that you are in FL and have been since the beginning of the year?

Your account popped up two months after Andrew last logged into this site.

So many coincidences and yet, a lack of willingness to address them publicly. One has to wonder.

 

[hhmoore]

The coati ad/pics bring something else to mind....I'm sure I've deleted the relevant PMs by now, but I can probably piece the rest of it back together (later, when I get to a real computer).

 

[jrbannister0726]

Bravo Zulu pretty impressive i gotta say. what kind of fool posts the same pics on multiple sites under different names and expects that no one will catch on. my conclusion is he has U.D.S(undercover down syndrome)

 

[bobtard]

I love how these "possible evidence" threads turn into "concrete evidence" threads (without 100% conclusive evidence), and then evolve into bashing and personal attacks.

 

[sally-dog]

I love how these "possible evidence" threads turn into "concrete evidence" threads (without 100% conclusive evidence), and then evolve into bashing and personal attacks.

I don't know... I would have to wonder why two different people look exactly alike and have the exact same animals and pictures. It smells fishy to say the least.

 

[bobtard]

I don't know... I would have to wonder why two different people look exactly alike and have the exact same animals and pictures. It smells fishy to say the least.

I'm not saying that's the case with this thread (I'll leave my opinion out, for my infraction point counts sake), but the whole "X is actually Y, here's some potential evidence I scoured up, bash him, he's terrible!" deal.

 

[ShadowAceD]

This isn't enough evidence either, eh, Rick?

Im no way back Drew up or anything, but I can say he does at least visit VA frequently or has family there. I met up with him and did a trade in VA.

No I dont know if he recently moved to Florida or what-not, just throwing that information in there...

Is he the guy in the photos?

Yep, same exact person in the photos. There's no doubt in my mind that they are the same person.

Stephen

Can I post this?

Of course.

Stephen

Thank you, Stephen.

 

[FosterHerpetological]

This isn't enough evidence either, eh, Rick?





Thank you, Stephen.

Anytime.

 

[jrbannister0726]

I'm pretty sure satilites and gps don't lie. the evidence is undeniable. you seriously have to be lacking in the brain department to use full body photos and pics of your face with one name and then attach the same photos to another name. A picture is worth a thousand words.. I mean common man really..... how is that not concrete evidence? if you can find a reasonable and legitamite explanation I'd love to hear it.

 

[bobtard]

I'm pretty sure satilites and gps don't lie. the evidence is undeniable. you seriously have to be lacking in the brain department to use full body photos and pics of your face with one name and then attach the same photos to another name. A picture is worth a thousand words.. I mean common man really..... how is that not concrete evidence? if you can find a reasonable and legitamite explanation I'd love to hear it.

Nice to see you resorting to petty personal attacks, high five!

Maybe it is the same person, maybe he's trying to start fresh. He had a bad deal, does that make him a bad guy foreverz? Not to me. I've had a few bad deals, am I a bad guy foreverz? Maybe.

 

[jrbannister0726]

the problem is when he lies about his identity. that does make him a bad guy, trying to run from your past and trying to decieve people lacks integrity bottom line. why are you defending a liar.

 

[ShadowAceD]

Nice to see you resorting to petty personal attacks, high five!

Maybe it is the same person, maybe he's trying to start fresh. He had a bad deal, does that make him a bad guy foreverz? Not to me. I've had a few bad deals, am I a bad guy foreverz? Maybe.

Rick, starting fresh is not lying about your idenity and where you are based out of.

Starting fresh is manning up, admitting you did wrong and working your backside off to prove it. You pull your name from the mud, not bury it for eternity and create a new one.

If someone who had a bad deal wants to reclaim their name with hard work and effort, I am all for that. Turning a new leaf? Great. Lying about who you are to fool people into thinking you are someone else? Negative.

 

[jrbannister0726]

he didnt just change his screen name but tried to pass himself off as a different person which i would imagine is illegal in some way, shape, or form.

 

[bobtard]

the problem is when he lies about his identity. that does make him a bad guy, trying to run from your past and trying to decieve people lacks integrity bottom line. why are you defending a liar.

I'm "defending a liar" because I'm obviously his friend, and a bad guy myself.

 

[ShadowAceD]

Rick, Jon, knock it off. Let's not derail the thread. No need for personl insults or for provoking people about irrelevant things.

 

[hhmoore]

Something about this account caught my eye a while back, and I did some looking....I had totally forgotten about it when Diem contacted me regarding her suspicions. Seeing the coati ad brought it back.

ReadyExotics 65.35.9.10
ReptileOfConcernInc 65.35.9.10

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/member.php?u=75095

I contacted one of them (probably ROC, as the Ready account hadn't been used since a few days before ROC was registered) and asked if there was a relationship (both Elliotts, both with ads for coatis). The response was that the other account was his ex, so I let it go.

Now, though, I took a closer look at ROCs IP addresses - there are about 30, most of them unique to him. I did, however, find another interesting match:

joecoool2003 24.156.19.231
ReptileOfConcernInc 24.156.19.231

joecoool2003 206.29.188.189
ReptileOfConcernInc 206.29.188.189

(joecoool2003 being one of Andrew's friends, and former roommates - http://repticzone.com/forums/Pythons-Reticulated/messages/2047760.html - though he denied any partnership in the BOI thread, claiming that he was simply a "costumer" of Andrew's - http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=885654&postcount=28)

 

[ShadowAceD]

Something about this account caught my eye a while back, and I did some looking....I had totally forgotten about it when Diem contacted me regarding her suspicions. Seeing the coati ad brought it back.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/member.php?u=75095

I contacted one of them (probably ROC, as the Ready account hadn't been used since a few days before ROC was registered) and asked if there was a relationship (both Elliotts, both with ads for coatis). The response was that the other account was his ex, so I let it go.

Now, though, I took a closer look at ROCs IP addresses - there are about 30, most of them unique to him. I did, however, find another interesting match:

(joecoool2003 being one of Andrew's friends, and former roommates - http://repticzone.com/forums/Pythons-Reticulated/messages/2047760.html - though he denied any partnership in the BOI thread, claiming that he was simply a "costumer" of Andrew's - http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=885654&postcount=28)

And once again, thank you Mr. Moore.

 

[Wolfy-hound]

I'm not sure what out of the evidence is "possible" evidence instead of evidence. The pictures and exif data and the link to his BOI thread whre he stole $2K from a guy... that's pretty well evidence against him.

Just like others before him, if you want to start fresh, you fix your problems and move on with life. When you "start out fresh" with a ton of lies, it's not a very good start.

I'm just thankful some quick eyed folks caught the deception to warn people before he stole another few grand out of new people under his new name. Perhaps his "friends" won't think it's perfectly fine when it's them out a couple thousand dollars or they receive a dead animal without any refund. A scammer is a scammer right up until they make the deals right and fix the problems they caused. When Andrew wants to make a fresh start, he knows how to begin. Creating a new persona and trying to lie all over again isn't a fresh start.. it's continueing his trend.

 

[pythonjim]

I'm not sure what out of the evidence is "possible" evidence instead of evidence. The pictures and exif data and the link to his BOI thread whre he stole $2K from a guy... that's pretty well evidence against him.

Just like others before him, if you want to start fresh, you fix your problems and move on with life. When you "start out fresh" with a ton of lies, it's not a very good start.

I'm just thankful some quick eyed folks caught the deception to warn people before he stole another few grand out of new people under his new name. Perhaps his "friends" won't think it's perfectly fine when it's them out a couple thousand dollars or they receive a dead animal without any refund. A scammer is a scammer right up until they make the deals right and fix the problems they caused. When Andrew wants to make a fresh start, he knows how to begin. Creating a new persona and trying to lie all over again isn't a fresh start.. it's continueing his trend.

But from what I've read, there is no fresh start for a sociopath.

Jim MacDonald aka pythonjim