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Dave,
I see what your saying, however, if Dan represents wc animals or tells the prospective customer that they are not eating, and the customer wants it anyway (might be a challenge for them to get them eating) then I have no problem with Dan selling them.
I buy a lot of wc venomous snakes and like the challenge of getting them to eat and breed, I know before hand if the snake is wc, and has not eaten since it's been in captivity, I usually accept that risk, and if it dies outside of the sellers terms, I take the loss. I know this going in.

Randal
 
Dave: What losses? Sold thousands and one dude burns 2 on a heat pad so 99.9999 precent of the sales have been outstanding. I've been keeping, trading, and selling reptiles for almost 30 years and all as a dealer now all the wild caughts are provided with 3 doses of pancur/flagyl before being offered for sale and their health is examined head to toe and that is a tremendous effort most seller's don't do with their wild caught animals. Doubt they are being treated, then you can speak to my vet who supplies me with the bottles of meds every few months or else of course you would hear about diseased animals from sales - but you don't. They are guaranteed to be healthy and feeding on arrival and there is a 2 week unconditional guarantee for cb animals and if something happens with a wild caught I usually work with the buyer and get another and often throw in another free if something goofy happens. Frog and lizard feeding snakes are sold sometimes and I send the feeders along at no cost because I am a sweet dude. You have this make it or not approach but I run about 50 ads and cannot keep up with the orders much less supply about a dozen or so pet shops and have to often throw in free animals just because its easier to make the customer extra happy then asking a dime exta later. I do this for relaxation after retirement of a long military career. Never sold a non eater so don't know what that comment was about.





Dan, I would be interested to see how many WC animals that you shipped, are still alive and thriving? Not picking on you, but WC animals are very fragile, and most people that buy WC, not all, but MOST, are probably new to reptiles, and might read up on a Boa, Columbian, see you have a Boa, Viper, and assume they need the same caging and all. I dont know man, I would say, make it abundantly clear that any WC animal is probably going to need meds, might have ticks, etc. Viper boas are known for not eating, and it SHOULD be your job to keep a non eater, and let anyone getting them know they eat, what they eat, etc. If you sell off a non eater as an eater, just to make a buck, that is shitty! If you decide to buy a group of wc vipers, you should sell only feeders. Make the price high enough on feeders to pay yourself back for all the non feeders you need to keep, and that might not make it. Selling wc that you pay cash for, it can be tempting to sell less than stellar animals to make some of your money back, or cut your losses.

Dave
 
Well mostly finished packing today.

Where's Chuck to help me lift this order?
 

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There is no competiton in the reptile industry. Most folks have the common sense to know they get what they pay for. And 99.99999999 percent of people will buy whatever reptile they need despite the worst reputation on any very bad dealers reputation.

If you think refusing to buy something from a dealer what you need in your collection/project is going to prove something to the world, then you are an idiot because the guy down the block will get it and breed it and you will be feeling soar about it later.
 
Frank, not a single legitimate complaint there my boy. You got a refund months after the frog you got from me so your still upset? LOL.

I'd have to be pretty stupid to do this, wouldn't I, if this is how it in fact went down? But no, I link to the other threads because the BOI works and is an information highway. As I said before, I post on Dan's threads not because of a botched past deal, but because I think he is scum and senile and handles things poorly with lying and repeating things over and over until people forget his past problems and believe what he's saying now.

Interesting to note once again, for someone who doesn't care about what people say about him on the BOI, Dan sure did spend a good amount of time looking at his threads today and responding.
 
People refers to your small daft group of friends - you know the usual pile of horse crap morons that lack common sense, character, tack, experience in life, and many other qualities necessary for an intelligent conversation but does not include some of the friendly and helpful folks that participate on this forum. And it does not matter what you and your friends say because everyone knows you're idiots.

And yea, the BOI works as I got an offer on the purple albino retic to consider and sold around 6 snakes this weekend. Thanks.

And your complaint was not legit. Those frogs were wild caught frogs that arrived alive per the terms of sale and the guarantee was fulfilled. Further, your report was that they appeared great and your further added they appeared in good heath and were happy with the sales and service. Days later you cry about one of them and I made a mistake and extended the companies guarantee just to not read your 2 page history on how great you think you are and issued a refund for one of them just to move onto bigger and better things so your scam worked so be a proud conman you thief.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Where's Chuck to help me lift this order?

Answer:
It would seem I was busy proving myself right again about Dan Scumlardo.

2,879 thread views.

I think I said (since my last count of 1,600 thread views) that indeed the number would surely climb. Yes indeedio I did say that.

I like being right, but you make it really easy, so its no fun anymore. I like a challenge but you're not like...a challenge or anything anymore. Everything about you is soooo predictable. You sell something and then that someone complains. They complain and then you deny it. You lose sales and you say sales are just great.

Its just...old. Its no fun.
 
Chuck:

When did I ever deny or side step accoutability for anything? You're full of wind again and cannot provide evidence of such charges so why do you continue to make such charges without evidence. And what's this thread view issue you keep harping on like it matters to anyone? Do you think you gain some power by these views? Nothing you can do or say will bother sales and that is what yanks your chain. Lardo? I am in tip top shape my friend.

And from the emails I receive about you from total strangers, it seems you have more enemies then people viewing.

Why don't you take up nitting or glass blowing or do something useful with your time besides making a living at mocking other people you never bought reptiles from and do not know? I mean you are some wacked dude to be on some internet webpage every day of your life yelling at people you never met over an issue anyone can remedy with their common sense anyway.
 
And Chuck, keep in mind that you will be held accountable for your actions and I am still waiting for your apology for conspiring with that other person to post a report of IBD on a snake that I did not ship.

Just don the red dress and high-heels and apologize and explain why you were so dumbfounded to post a report without having verification that it was on a snake I shipped. You did get out of the handcuffs by now right?

Show your peers that you are not a sissy and apologize.
 
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Dan Scolaro said:
Chuck:

When did I ever deny or side step accoutability for anything? You're full of wind again and cannot provide evidence of such charges so why do you continue to make such charges without evidence. And what's this thread view issue you keep harping on like it matters to anyone? Do you think you gain some power by these views? Nothing you can do or say will bother sales and that is what yanks your chain. Lardo? I am in tip top shape my friend.

You had a customer buy some tree frogs from you, paying you for shipping when they did. You chose a shipping agent, packaged the animals and sent them out. The carrier you selected delayed the package for an additional day without making a delivery attempt. The frogs arrived over 24 hours later than they were scheduled to, with a DOA. You refused to provide a refund or replacement because the buyer sent you an email with a timestamp that was five hours off the timestamp listed as the time of delivery on the tracking website from the carrier (which may have been entirely a result of email servers being in different time zones). You took no responsibility for the delay in delivery, sidestepping the accountibility you had to deliver live frogs. The buyer was four hours late in emailing you. Your frogs were something like thirty one hours late in arriving. You were culpable and you left the issue unresolved.

With regards to the necropsy that indicated inclusion bodies- you blew that one as well. YOUR buyer stated it was a report from the snake you sent, they did not understand the attachment system here and forwarded the report to other members to post. No other member besides your buyer is responsible for the claim that the report is associated with a snake you shipped. If you felt they were being dishonest, they were the person to take it up with- not the people who relayed the report for them and not the people who believed it's validity. This is made especially true by the simple fact that you did not question the validity of the report for days, instead trying to argue that inclusion bodies in the liver were "bone cells" caused by strangulation. An argument which is, I may add, complete and utter nonsensical crap.

You have had numerous people report that their transactions with you have taken a negative turn. Your pattern of behavior is to turn it back on the buyer and refuse to provide them with anything resembling an appropriate resolution. The customers you have who are pleased with you had transactions which went smoothly. I have long maintained that the measure of a person's honesty and integrity is not taken when they have a flawless transaction, but rather in how they handle themselves when something goes wrong. Dan's method of dealing with problems that stemmed from the quality of his stock or the actions of his shipping agent is a blanket denial of any culpability and a refusal to provide his customers with what they paid for.

Anyone looking to deal with him should just be aware of the risk they are taking- if *anything* goes wrong, the customer is the one who will be forced to eat the loss, because Dan will never... ever... make things right.
 
Seamus Haley said:
Anyone looking to deal with him should just be aware of the risk they are taking- if *anything* goes wrong, the customer is the one who will be forced to eat the loss, because Dan will never... ever... make things right.

Oh and... as far as that is concerned; every individual is going to make their own decisions and come to their own conclusions about who they decide to give their money to and what is or is not acceptable behavior on the part of a dealer.

Personally, I feel there are enough quality dealers who have integrity and will take care of their customers that there's no need whatsoever to enlarge the lot of someone who's standards are questionable at absolute best in that area.

Dan doesn't sell anything rare enough or unique enough to make the potential for things to go sideways worth the effort of dealing with him. Plenty of other people around who can provide the same species of the same or better quality for similar or better prices that won't screw you if the shipping agent they contracted to deliver something kills an animal.
 
Seamus Haley said:
You had a customer buy some tree frogs from you, paying you for shipping when they did. You chose a shipping agent, packaged the animals and sent them out. The carrier you selected delayed the package for an additional day without making a delivery attempt. The frogs arrived over 24 hours later than they were scheduled to, with a DOA. You refused to provide a refund or replacement because the buyer sent you an email with a timestamp that was five hours off the timestamp listed as the time of delivery on the tracking website from the carrier (which may have been entirely a result of email servers being in different time zones). You took no responsibility for the delay in delivery, sidestepping the accountibility you had to deliver live frogs. The buyer was four hours late in emailing you. Your frogs were something like thirty one hours late in arriving. You were culpable and you left the issue unresolved.

With regards to the necropsy that indicated inclusion bodies- you blew that one as well. YOUR buyer stated it was a report from the snake you sent, they did not understand the attachment system here and forwarded the report to other members to post. No other member besides your buyer is responsible for the claim that the report is associated with a snake you shipped. If you felt they were being dishonest, they were the person to take it up with- not the people who relayed the report for them and not the people who believed it's validity. This is made especially true by the simple fact that you did not question the validity of the report for days, instead trying to argue that inclusion bodies in the liver were "bone cells" caused by strangulation. An argument which is, I may add, complete and utter nonsensical crap.

You have had numerous people report that their transactions with you have taken a negative turn. Your pattern of behavior is to turn it back on the buyer and refuse to provide them with anything resembling an appropriate resolution. The customers you have who are pleased with you had transactions which went smoothly. I have long maintained that the measure of a person's honesty and integrity is not taken when they have a flawless transaction, but rather in how they handle themselves when something goes wrong. Dan's method of dealing with problems that stemmed from the quality of his stock or the actions of his shipping agent is a blanket denial of any culpability and a refusal to provide his customers with what they paid for.

Anyone looking to deal with him should just be aware of the risk they are taking- if *anything* goes wrong, the customer is the one who will be forced to eat the loss, because Dan will never... ever... make things right.

That has to be the best post that I have ever read! Thanks Seamus!
 
Seamus Haley said:
Dan doesn't sell anything rare enough or unique enough to make the potential for things to go sideways worth the effort of dealing with him. Plenty of other people around who can provide the same species of the same or better quality for similar or better prices that won't screw you if the shipping agent they contracted to deliver something kills an animal.

I disagree, Dan usually has very rare venomous snakes that no one has here in the states. He gets a lot of his rarer stock from Germany. So, your above statement is wrong.

Randal Berry
 
Your blither and misintrepretation of the facts does not represent the instances in that matter.

The terms of the sale were one hour notification upon arrival and she did not notify for 5 hours so the frogs could have cooked on her door step.

Despite she did not ahere to the terms of the sale, I EXTENDED the guarantee and offered replacement frogs at a discount and to share the shipping and she refused the offer.

If you do not like my kind offer to extend the guarantee of live arrival, then tough ninny.

No evidence has been provided any IBD report was linked to any snake I shipped. Much less the dates of the shipment of snakes do not jive with the date of the report.

Another tough ninny for you to nimble on smart guy.
 
Yea, I am packing a 3000 dollar order for a Zoo this morning. Vipera albicornuta - only 6 in the country and I brought them in.

I own perhaps the largest collection of rare reptiles in the country and someone just published a book about it so another tough ninny for you David.
 
Well I have to run to Miami with this european shipment and guess I have to he aft the box myself as Chuck is too busy adding air to the tires on his Mobil home to make him feel taller.
 
lanceheads said:
I disagree, Dan usually has very rare venomous snakes that no one has here in the states. He gets a lot of his rarer stock from Germany. So, your above statement is wrong.

Randal Berry

Most of which he doesn't sell- certainly not to the general public anyway.

I spent a little while this morning reading through his old threads as a refresher course. Scolaro 101 and have to stand by the substance of my statements. I am one who was more than open to giving Dan the benefit of the doubt based on the credibility of a few folks who praised his stock. I kept nudging him towards what he would need to do to evidence his positions of innocence and he was unwilling or unable to do anything substantial to clear his name in regards to any of the issues that some of his buyers had presented.

It's great that some people have had p[ositive experiences with him and that the majority of his sales had positive outcomes. It's a lot less great that he chooses to conduct himself like a scumbag scam artist when something does go wrong. If he had even a single customer that he had screwed over it would have been one too many; there are about a half dozen reports of unhappy folks on these boards and there may be others who are unaware of this site. It's a small percentage compared to his total sales but it exists.

I would not reccomend Dan Scolaro as a dealer to anyone simply because IF something goes wrong; an animal isn't quite as represented, an illness becomes apparant shortly after shipping, carrier mishandling... He'll deny culpability and screw the buyer. If he just (voluntarily) took care of the people who trusted him enough to send him money, he'd reverse my opinion.
 
Seamus: I never denied or ducked any issue and never had any issue with an unhealthy animal to deny. Either provide the proof or dig a hole and stick your head in it. Who care's who or what you would recommend? You are a moron and am sure your friends know it. You claim these are unhappy folks that complained? You are FOS. They are bastards who tried to scam for monies and animals they were not entitled to as the terms of the sale were met with live arrival of healthy animals. And you are tired in life and fishing for a reason to be present here and wish to point the finger at people instead of looking in the mirror at your own faults.

Great Lakes: You are just another sissy mary throwing names behind your computer. You don't know me and never bought any reptile from me however you are welcomed to a full plate of my turds.
 
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