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Info Dustin Draper

proof is exactly what we've been asking for. nobody has stepped up to vouch for your reparations to what you've done. nobody found any police reports. we have no PROOF of your claims to be on the road to becoming a good, honest, contributing member.

you want to prove us wrong? Prove it.

You did notice that he's banned, per Rich's posts above, right? He can't post anything.
 
Ole Dustin is back at it AGAIN!
 

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So in April, they just moved o a new house and couldn't pay the bills. Car being repossessed and no work. Please send 2,000 and everything will be great.

September, kids are taken because they keep snakes and build a snake room attached to the house. Please send 10,000.

I never thought id see the day when my children were taken from me. How has our country come to this? Not long ago our family was remodeling our home we had just purchased when children and family services were called on us. They took our 3 children. We are in need of attorney to get our babies back. Since this happened our family is falling apart...the pain and agony is unbearable.
we call upon the people of our great nation to help us reunite our family once again. We are asking for enough donations to cover attorney expenses . Bless you all!


Rockdale County Jail Log 2009

Dustin Allen Draper, 23, 2952 Valley Court, Conyers, Nov. 14. Battery - Family Violence

Just a reminder about this person.
Dennis Hultman said:
Brad,
What is your real name?

I can answer this for you.

He first used Justin Draper and the user profile "georgiaherper"

His real name is Dustin Allen Draper.

Here is some of his User Names he created on this site.

Iknowu
Hardlined
Groundpounder
thrandomhero
nomansland
gocartmadness
bakcountry09
georgiaherper
akia_ga
claystate
snakes_r_us

email addresses

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Aliases

Jeff Schoep
Chris Anderson
Allen Draper
Donny Handler
j.j price
Justin Draper
Christina Davis
Christina Davis-Leverette
Christina Lopez Davis
Bonnie Hagan
Dustin Drant
Eddie Lopez
Josh Anderson
Joshua Anderson
Dustin Allen Draper
Bonnie Hagen (mothers name)
Craig Davis
Bradley Chaney

User names on other sites
Stockbridge Herper
Southern Herper

Bad Guy threads under his name and under the aliases he used.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148582
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286319
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186424
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201610
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217496
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263636
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219547
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182640

Here is one where he tried to create a false good guy thread for himself on the BOI under one of his aliases.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138616

Before he became the "georgiaherper" here is a nice little associated press article on him.


Dustin A. Draper of Muncie, Indiana picked up a box of venomous baby timber rattlesnakes at a post office and transported them on a city bus to his apartment.

Postal inspectors notified authorities about the shipment, and the Indiana Department of Natural Resources and the county police arrested Draper at his home. He was jailed under charges of "possession of an endangered species and transportation of a dangerous reptile without a permit," reported The Associated Press.

This is not the first "snake charge" for Draper. He was convicted a year ago for attempting to sell an eastern diamondback rattlesnake. He also faces charges from this past August for the possession of a cobra.

There are more user names, emails and aliases but I think that gives everyone enough information.

If you search the current phone number you will find posts on www.venomousreptiles.org and he is using "[email protected]" email address.

From other users

GROUNDPOUNDER (Bradley Chaney) aka: SCAMMER: DUSTIN ALLEN DRAPER (names he also uses in his scams: Craig Davis, Chris Anderson, Eddie Lopez, Joshua Anderson, Brad Hagen, JJ Price, his wife is Christina Draper, who also goes by the names Christina Lopez Davis, Christina Davis, and his mother is also involved, Bonnie Hagan.) ADDRESS: 2952 Valloey Court, Conyers, GA 30012 Phone numbers he uses: 601-434-5683, 601-329-3533, 601-329-3532, 678-481-0802, and 770-274-8399.

There's more but I don't have all morning to list them.
 
Good work, Dennis, re: the 2 separate GoFundMe accounts and bogus stories.
Those accounts have been reported to GFM, with links to support his multiple scams.

I also believe (and hope) he has been removed from that closed FB group, "Georgia Online Reptile Trader".

I have to admit, I got a good chuckle from the photo that he posted on the GFM "Reunite the Draper Family" account. Looks like it was taken 20-something years ago.
 
Thats not him. The Dustin Draper here was 20 back in 2006 not 34. He was busy breaking the law in Indiana back in that time period.
 

Did he really say he hasn't had time to find a job? If you don't have a job how do you not have time to look for a job? I'm not sure I believe the kids were really taken, it may just be a story to make people feel bad, but I really hope they did take them, they are better off in someone else's care!
 
Christina Draper - [email protected]
Christina Davis - [email protected] (used for PayPal)
Dustin/Darrin Draper - (678) 368-9222
southernherper - Augusta, GA - Sand Hill Reptiles


My name is Sarah Williams, I am a member of the BP.net forums, and I responded to an ad posted for a lot of 14 pied yearlings (thread has been deleted by admins). I began contacting the seller, new BP.net member "southernherper" by private messaging on the forum.

Hi SH!
My husband and I are interested in your 14 pied yearling lot - however, since you're a brand new member of the forum and we don't have any information about you, we have a bunch of questions.
Are all of the animals visual Pied? No hets?
How many males, how many females?
Can you provide pictures of each individual animal? Can you provide pictures of their parents?
We assume these are from multiple clutches - are they all related (by Sire) or different bloodlines?
Why are you trying to move 14 animals at below-market price?
Does your lot price of 2000$ include shipping?
Looking forward to hearing back from you!
Sarah Williams

I recieved two messages back:

I appreciate the questions! We re asking below market price due to failing at our project that we were working on. And since failing to produce what we were aiming for, we have no need or space for the animals. Therefore we need them gone.
I can provide pictures. The animals are from old Bob Clark stock.

We do not have the time nor space to deal with 14 pieds when we have other stuff to work on. The are from different females but same sire. The price does not include shipping. Shipping will be an additional $60.00 for fed ex overnight. There is an alive arrival guarantee. Furthermore I do accept refunds of requested within 7 days of purchase on the condition that purchaser pays for the return and animals arrive back to us in the same condition that you received them in.

We continued a dialogue, in which I continued to try and gain clarity and hammer down the deal. Whilst we communicated, I became what my husband likes to call "cyberstalker Sarah" trying to hunt down any information on the seller online. I was unable to locate any information on the store Sand Hill Reptiles in Augusta, GA (location provided by seller on BP.net profile) or locate a facebook presence. I found nothing.

Hi SH,
I am interested and serious about picking up this lot, I just want to be clear on a couple of things. First, my understanding is that these are all visual animals - please confirm. Secondly, the lot total, including shipping, would be 2060$ - please confirm. Finally, I do want pictures of each animal and of the parents, and can you verify the sex ratio of the animals?
Thanks again
Sarah Williams

They are 100% visual. No hets. I do know the sexes of the animals. They are on the female heavy side with 5 males and 9 females. I hope that's not a problem. I'd have to either text or email pictures.
The total amount will be, if purchased $2060.00 US. I will need your local information on temperatures day and night as to have the box prepared for the current temperatures.

Hi SH,
We are in Gilbert, AZ (xxxxx) - next Tuesday's high will be 72 F, that would be an ideal day for delivery. Please email pictures to [email protected] - this is my personal email address.
The sex ratio is not a problem, I just wanted to confirm what we are looking at. What is the average weight of the animals? This doesn't affect my desire to purchase, again just want to know what we are getting.
Do you accept PayPal for payment?
Also, do you have a website or Facebook page so we can look for animals in the future? I wasn't able to pull up anything under Sand Hill Reptiles, listed on your profile.
Thanks,
Sarah

We do not have a website or anything as we are relatively new and are still in the organizational stage, as I'm sure you can understand. We strive to give first class service in every aspect of our customers experience.
I cannot give you specific weights currently as they have not been recently weighed. I will send you pictures that I have stored on my phone. The mother is the largest one. Let me know when you receive them ��

I recieved an email from Christina Draper <[email protected]> with 9 attachments - one picture of hatchlings in eggs, one picture of the Dam, and 7 pictures of the same animal in different poses.

I did not think about doing search for the email address, and I assumed that more pictures would be forthcoming - they were not.

Hi SH/Christina,
I got the pictures, they are beautiful little things. :) How would you like to be paid? If we can do payment by PayPal, I can send payment tonight - if so, would you be able to send them out on Monday night so my husband can be available to receive them on Tuesday?
Thanks,
Sarah

Will he be available to sign for them? Yes I have PayPal.

Yes, he will be available to sign for them - he will be home all day, so there shouldn't be any problems.
What is your PayPal address, and would you like me to send payment tonight, or nearer to the send-date?
Thanks,
Sarah

Send tonight so that they will be considered sold and off the market.
[email protected]
As long as he will be there to sign all of my worries will be gone.

Alright, payment has been sent!
Dan Williams (<-- husband)
xxxxx
Gilbert, AZ xxxxx
Cell # xxxxx
He works from home so he will definitely be here to receive the delivery.
Please send the shipping label/confirmation to my email when it is printed up and ready to go. If you need anything further from us please let me know! If you have any records (hatch dates, shed/feeding) I would appreciate if they could be sent as well.
Thanks again,
Sarah

There were a couple of pleasantries messages exchanged, and then my husband and I went to bed. My husband recieved a call a few minutes later, from someone he heard as "Darren" - no correction was ever given when my husband used this name on the phone with him, several times. The seller said that he had refunded the payment because a 21 day hold had been placed on it, and asked whether we could re-send it as a gift (NO). He went on to explain that a 2.7% transaction fee had eaten up the cost of the shipping - whether or not the 21 day hold was a real issue, we'll never know, but losing out on aprox 47$ on a 2000$ deal was a no-go for the seller, so the payment was refunded in full. My bank did not update with the refund immediately, so we made plans to be back in touch and try repayment the next day.

I recieved another email, from Christina Davis <[email protected]>, with an "example picture" of a fire lucy:

This is NOT a picture of our snake. But the one we have is a bonus that I'm going to throw in for you guys since you are just starting out. Everyone needs some help to mae a prized collection. Take very good care of this female. the eyes are black With a red pupil.
This picture is just an example.

Additional messages were exchanged over the BP.net forum private messaging, but the seller preferred contact by phone, so my husband spoke to him multiple times - sometimes also by text. The phone number used by the seller was (678) 368-9222.

My bank account did not update with the refund for 2 days. The seller continued to try and speak to my husband on the phone and by text during this time, but did not message me on the BP.net forums. The first day, my husband eventually determined that the seller was probably legit due to the consistancy of his story about being a member of a burgeoning coalition for veteran christians with families in the herping business - small inconsistancies and curiosities were passed off as "old timer internet wonder". On the second day, my husband messaged me while I was at work, and told me that he'd changed his mind, the seller was sounding awfully scammy, and he had dug up a previous FaunaClassifieds thread with information about the seller consistant with the contact details we had.

We dropped the deal without alerting the seller, and I posted a warning thread on BP.net, to which the seller baulked and stated that:

"That's false information."
"I have the shipping label, snakes and everything ready to ship as we discussed."
"The OP failed to express their concerns to me or my co workers prior to this thread. It's quite sad as we were shipping the animals in question today just as we had discussed. They were ready to ship through FedEx with the tracking number and everything in order.
However my prior employment with a bad business before my split seems to discourage them. This was never brought to my attention as it very well should have been. And the use of PayPal protects us both and is linked to our bank account.
If the OP had concerns, then we are just a phone call away."

During the most recent phone conversation with the seller, my husband had discussed having the seller hold the animals for 21 days if another hold was placed on the payment(s) sent. A second payment attempt had not been made, so there would be no reason for the seller to have the animals ready to ship out and a label for an uppaid shipment ready to go.

This entire ordeal smacks of some of the worst decision making I have ever been a part of, and I am both extremely angry and extremely relieved to have not been taken for 2060$.
 
Coalition for Veteran Christians with families in the herp community. Talk about a specific focus group, lmao. Glad you didn't lose your money!
 
Sorry you had to go though this Sarah at least you went with your gut. I guess Dustin (who only a few months ago claimed was a changed man :ack2:) had to look for a new scamming ground.

Well it won't be on BP.net, he has been banned.

Apparently he is not even hiding he admitted who he was. :shootfoot
 

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Thanks - this is why I prefer to do any kind of business over a written medium - everything is documented. With so much of this happening by phone with my husband (I gave his cell # because I am phone-shy) I was getting secondhand information relayed back to me after each conversation, if I was not around to listen into the conversation as it was happening. I'm grateful my husband's gut feelings are pretty sharp too.
 
Interesting … I have family in Augusta, as that is where I grew up. I will look into this Sandhill reptiles "store" & may pay a visit the next time I'm there.


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But if you do weaken and create yet another bogus account, then your game is over with here. For good. As far as I will be concerned, you are what you are, and you cannot change that, so begone. I don't want you around.

So that is the deal. Are you up to it?

I was not making my own terms. I was simply asking if that would be alright. If you feel thats the best route then so be it. Ban me for a year.

Excellent choice!

Perhaps we will see you back here a year from today.

I guess Dustin could not even go cold turkey for a year :shrug01:
 
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