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Ronald what you say may be true but we are unlikely to make his acquaintance so must judge him on what we see here. If you never met the guy I'd bet you'd feel like most here that he's a blow hard and not worth doing business with. But then you say he's a jerk but gives you free animals I guess that is a way to keep friends and supporters.

He goes on and on about how he doesn't care but I wonder how he'll feel when one day he wants to buy from someone that has viewed this thread full of the crap he spews and says nope look elsewhere I don't do business with people like you!! May or may not happen but why make it a possibility? Why does Peter take the chance that he may not be able to get an animal he really wants?? Maybe he never thought of it that way??He has personal issues oh well why drag them out for all to see?? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot he's blown them off up to his waist...Randy
 
I only read the first few pages of this thread so I'm not sure if this issue has been resolved but I thought I'd add a few of my thoughts.

First off Peter you need to apologize. This guy asked a simple and polite question and you treated him like trash. There is nothing funny about this and I don't see how anyone could find humor in this. If you didn't want to take his offer all you had to say was no thanks and none of these problems would have arisen. Treat others how you would like to be treated.

-Matt
 
Ahhh, so many enemies. All it took was telling one guy that wanted to lowball me to go somewhere else and leave me alone. We did not even do any business - so why in the BOI?

Oh well, I like seeing all of your true colors. Can't wait to pile on the guy in the middle. Mob mentality at its best. I can take it. Some of you are even reading my "About Us" page to learn more about me to take personal shots at me (mentioning the Marines and calling me Gomer).

Here it is - http://www.eastcoastcolubrids.com/Main/ABOUT_US/ECC ABOUT us.htm. Maybe you can get a few more tidbits about me to dredge up in here.

Please - bring MORE AND MORE. I have not even started and will not leave.

The good news is that no one cares about you or the BOI. As stated before - this will have zero effect on anything I do.

N O N E.

John Scmidt - you call me arrogant? How about you? At first you almost defended me in here and then when the winds shifted - so did you. You coward.

Let's discuss our deal Mr. Schmidt for everyone to see how I treat people in the hobby, which I think is exceptionally fair - I bought 1.1 Northern Pine Snakes from you last Summer. You sent me 2.0. You would not agree that you sent me 2.0 until I proved it to you. Stop me if I am wrong. Once I proved it to you - then you agreed to send me a replacement female at your expense - but only after you tracked down where the extra female went. That took about a week. We talked about the replacement and I asked you what to do with the extra male. You told me to keep it. I asked you if you were going to be in Daytona - snd you were - so I told you to save the shipping money and bring the female to Daytona. I also offered (and delivered) the extra male back to you. That's how I operate - No B.S. You were very quick to make the deal better and I was very quick to give you a break.

Please correct the story if it is wrong John. This really does not have any bearing on my telling the emailer to go away - but it is an example of how I actually operate and deal with people.

Anyone else in here that likes to pile on (Randall Berry for instance) - you are really amusing me. You don't like the way I treated the guy in the email and then you don't like that I am not CRINGING IN FEAR because my reputation on the BOI will suffer.

You are making me laugh.

PETER JOLLES
 
Peter

Peter I give you a good guy post even though I don't know you. Being in retail and internet sales for a few years myself I very much know how you are feeling when you type that email. As far as your about me page I am a eagle scout so Props to your dad, like you my dad was also a scout master and encouraged me to do what I wanted. You seem like a cool straight forward guy. Go get em :reddevil:
 
reptileboy1122 said:
Peter I give you a good guy post even though I don't know you. Being in retail and internet sales for a few years myself I very much know how you are feeling when you type that email.
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There is a HUGE difference between feeling that way and actually responding in that way to a potential customer. I might expect that sort of response from someone who is only 19 (though I do know some 19 year olds that are more mature than most actual adults I know), but not from a real "grown up". :shrug01:
 
Cat-72

Cat 1 get a life please, 2 I really hate people like you that have nothing better to do than give someone a problem due to there age. Age has very little do with things. In fact I bet that at 19 I have more experience, kn owlage, and business experience then you could gain in a life time. Thanks for your 2 cents. It was very helpful :rofl:
 
Cat-72

On Second though I don't know you and maybe that post isn't true but its just How I fell, but then again who cares I'm only 19 I dint know what I'm talking about. Anyways being that your someone who would make a age comment I bet your also someone that thinks because you have 3000 posts you have the upper hand. Just means that you have more time to waste then most people.
 
Randy, I did not hang out with Peter because he gave me free animals. In fact, I met Peter at a show in VA by purchasing a few of his awesome okeetee corns. I was stationed at the Pentagon at the time and was new to the area. I had no friends or family there and Peter introduced me to a lot of the reptile hobbyist in the area. I am not a "hanger-on" to people because they give me free animals and Peter is not the type of person who needs to do this in order to have friends.
Do I agree with Peter on every move he makes? Of course not. I cant think of a single person in this world that I don't have some differences with.
The point I am trying to make is, he doesn't care if you like him or not. He speaks his mind no matter what is on it. I know he is this way and I accept it. If people don't like him and his attitude, stay away. He isn't going to change because of some post on a website.
Will he lose business because of this? Maybe from people who post here or want to buy through the internet but he has a large population of people to sell to right in his own neighborhood.
Again, I am not condoning what Peter does. He is his own person. He makes his own decisions in how to relate to people as we all do.

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Ronald what you say may be true but we are unlikely to make his acquaintance so must judge him on what we see here. If you never met the guy I'd bet you'd feel like most here that he's a blow hard and not worth doing business with. But then you say he's a jerk but gives you free animals I guess that is a way to keep friends and supporters.
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reptileboy1122 said:
On Second though I don't know you and maybe that post isn't true but its just How I fell, but then again who cares I'm only 19 I dint know what I'm talking about. Anyways being that your someone who would make a age comment I bet your also someone that thinks because you have 3000 posts you have the upper hand. Just means that you have more time to waste then most people.
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Did I, or did I not say that I do know 19 year olds that were more mature than many adults? Please point out to me where I said that because you are 19, you don't know what you are talking about, and I will gladly retract it. I simply stated that I would expect that kind of response more from someone who is 19 than someone who is a "grown up". I know adults whom I would not consider "grownups", for that matter.

The number of posts anyone has here really has nothing to do with anything, however I happen to enjoy spending some time here helping out newbies, discussing herps, learning about herps, and doing what I can to contribute to the hobby. Reading posts like some of those on this thread is the only time I consider it a "waste of time".

And FYI, I've been involved with retail sales since growing up with my parents' business, and having something of my own since I was a teen....so I'd wager to guess I've had more years of retail experience than you've been on this earth. ;)
 
Cat-72

Maybe I did misjudged your post and I apologize. I am just very tired of people that make judgements based on age. Thanks Chris
 
reptileboy1122 said:
Cat 1 get a life please, 2 I really hate people like you that have nothing better to do than give someone a problem due to there age. Age has very little do with things. In fact I bet that at 19 I have more experience, kn owlage, and business experience then you could gain in a life time. Thanks for your 2 cents. It was very helpful
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I bet you don't. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


The above is a perfect example of why the drinking age is 21. Age may not have everything "to do with things" but there is a reason that society still deems you not mature enough to handle alcohol, and 34 year olds not wise enough to be President. Knowledge can sometimes be acquired quickly, but experience and wisdom take time, time that you simply have not yet had in life young man.


When you're 30 see how you respond to some 19 year old kid saying something akin to what you just said.
 
Jim o

:rofl: thanks your opinion is noted, yet I do not care what you think!, and as as note there will be no same 19 year old. Although when another 19 year old comes along and I am 30 I will support them with all I have and help them out in any way possible. As I will remember people like you and others that felt the way you do
 
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:rofl: thanks your opinion is noted, yet I do not care what you think!, and as as note there will be no same 19 year old. Although when another 19 year old comes along and I am 30 I will support them with all I have and help them out in any way possible. As I will remember people like you and others that felt the way you do
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When you're 30, sooner if you're smart at all, you'll be eating those words.

You won't believe it now because you are simply too young and inexperianced to know what you'll think a decade down the road BUT, some of us who have been in the shoes you're wearing now, the ones you'll be wearing in 10 years and the ones you'll be wishing you weren't wearing 10 years after than, are laughing right now at you because you are parroting what has been said by so many so often.

Hopefully you'll be one of the smart ones, one of the ones who actually can help out the ones coming up, and not just a bitter old idiot who regrets his lost youth.
 
Man this has blown up.
First the guy didn't do ANYTHING but send an exasperated reply back to ONE person. Then you guys come in and taunt and bully until this entire thread has erupted. It is part and parcel of how immature people on the internet can be. First it isn't any of your business whether or not he sent a rude email to a guy. He shouldn't have posted it here, since it wasn't a deal gone bad in any way.
Now that the guy comes on and says "Hey I don't care what you think of me" everyone will jump on him about that? That's ridiculous. He doesn't care about your opinions and that must mean he is a horrible person. How stupid is that? Stop trying to bully people through your "massive influence on the net" and take care of your own sales. If you don't like that he sent a flipping rude reply, then don't send people his way. From everything I've read on this thread, I'd still buy from him, but I don't know that I'd buy from some of you, if you are so terribly concerned over what I think, or what attitude I have. I'm also not concerned with other's opinions. I guess now I'll get screamed at, called names, and have nasty stuff said about me. I sell occasional animals, and like I stated once before, I've gotten the same types of bargaining haggling emails. I am usually more polite than his email, but I am not about to tell him how to run his business.
You guys are immature, and should have dropped all of this way back on page one. It's stupid. What's your REAL beef? It can't possibly be that you are SOOOO horribly upset that he sent a rude email. So why are you upset? You are all upset because he stated he doesn't care about your opinion.
Not everyone cares about what you think. No one cares about what I think. I don't care about what a lot of people think. You don't care about what a lot of OTHER people think. So what's the REAL beef?
Thinking is,
Theresa
 
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well good for you theresa...
From everything I've read on this thread, I'd still buy from him, but I don't know that I'd buy from some of you, if you are so terribly concerned over what I think, or what attitude I have...end quote...
its nice to see that no matter how you talk to people,cocky,abusive,arrogant you get that some people will still buy from you :slamit: , good for you .......WOW is all i can say :confused: ,,,,,,,thomas davis
 
Theresa if he didn't care he wouldn't bother to respond to everyone who has taken a shot at him.. Everyone cares what people think of them you me even Peter,, you can say you don't care but ya do....

Chris AKA reptileboy What has been brought up is a real problem with people.. Most of us felt just like you when we were 19. Tired of older people saying we didn't know anything ETC ETC Then one day it sort of happens you realise you don't know much and that you knew a lot less when you were 19. You think wow I wish I had known this when I was 19 so you try to warn the younger people that this will happen !!! And here we are trying to give you some insight and talking to someone who is just like we were and doesn't want to hear what we are saying.. LOL and it goes on and on and on... A real quandary
 
What purpose does this whole mess serve on the BOI? When did the BOI turn into a popularity/character judging contest? Why was this even posted on the BOI, as far as I can tell thier was no business transaction made? Answer these questions however you like, but IMO this thread is a farce and hasn't done a thing for the "community" as a whole, which is what I thought the BOI was intended for?
 
Jim-o Tax Time.....

Man your numbers are confusing.......You need a C-P-A with a M-B-D for your
B-U-T......HaHa......You haven't persecuted me for being a Jew yet....Or is
that subject off limits....Sexual preference maybe? I really can give you some Tax-Tips........I'll trade for a picture of your posterior.....
 
I think that late teen boys naturally are confidant in themselves. It is usually a good thing, as long as they still acquire knowledge. I know some older people that could benefit from some of the teens I know.
I would still buy from the guy, because I have yet to see ANYONE post any bad customer service. He sent a rude email to someone lowballing his offer. Not a customer, and most likely not even a potential customer. All the people who have said they actually have had a DEAL have said he did well by them.
I'm much more concerned about the quality of animals, and the honesty of the deal, rather than pretty phrases. TSE was really nice and helpful in emails. So was the guy who sold me my wobble-headed spider. I'd rather have an honest grumpy person thank you very much. His website is well set up, good TOS and good clear shots of animals for sale. I would buy from him, since I haven't seen any bad deals yet.
Even one of the gripers here said he agreed to try to get the snakes he wanted to feed on mouse pinks. How many of you are going to try to change what the snakes are feeding on, all for a POTENTIAL customer, who hasn't made a deposit or even guaranteed that he'd buy them? The fact that he couldn't get them to feed on pinks, is irrelevant. The fact that he TRIED to, in order to please the potential customer makes me go "Hey, that was nice of him."
Who here can say they've NEVER been rude to anyone. How about the telemarketer you cursed and hung up on? How about the clerk who worked in the pet store that had sold the last feeders ten minutes before you arrived? Do they deserve rude behavior since they are not going to give you money? Pretty false behavior. Being nice to people is great. Not everyone has the personality to be super nice and polite to everyone. And again... I've seen ONE person he sent a rude email to. Other than this fiasco of a thread, I don't see any problems with him or his service.
And its a pretty whiney baby thing to do ... come to the BOI to post that you got a rude email. I've gotten tons of rude emails, and I never came crying up here. I just moved on to another seller. Every person on here has gotten rude emails, and problay sent some, or POSTED some. None of them have come running to the BOI and posted a thread.
Look at the start of this thing, where people told the original thread starter that he should not have sent a low-ball offer, and he should just move on. How does that translate to bash someone for sending a rude email? I don't understand it at all.
People mystify me.
Wolfy
 
Wolfy Hound writes:
You guys are immature, and should have dropped all of this way back on page one. It's stupid. What's your REAL beef? It can't possibly be that you are SOOOO horribly upset that he sent a rude email. So why are you upset? You are all upset because he stated he doesn't care about your opinion.
Not everyone cares about what you think. No one cares about what I think. I don't care about what a lot of people think. You don't care about what a lot of OTHER people think. So what's the REAL beef?
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Me Thinks, and just speaking as "Me Thinks" ...... too much time on one's hands. Now, if all animals bought from Pete came with an attitude such that every time you looked at one, it looked back and said "What the frick are you looking at ? " ... we'd have something ...... rude talking reptiles :D
 
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