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Bad Guy Ed Clark - Scammer, Liar, and Sells Sick Dragons

Jason & Dean

I have nothing to hide over the verbal contract but the verbal contract was over when he Gave Prince to me as my own Dragon. I know some say keep him some say give him back and I have made my mind up Prince is staying with me I have had him for a long time as my own dragon (after Ed gave him to me) I only brought up the possible trade because I really don't want a headache over this but I can not live with myself knowingly sending a dragon to someone who is not going to give a rats *** about the dragons wellfare.

You guys can keep throwing that you think I am in it for money at me all you want the reason it dose not upset me is because I KNOW I am NOT in it for money each person is allowed to form their opinion I am not going to try to stop anyone from that. But I can tell you that I LOVE my dragons I have lost a few dragons almost all of them rescues that where beyond rehabbing fully and each and every one broke my heart. I can not stand seeing an animal mistreated and suffering to me animals are the only truly innocent creature on this planet.

If the dragon was Ed's he would have gotten back I am not a theif but the dragon is not Prince belongs to me and I am not going to play into Ed's little games and let him push me around and get what he wants. I am going to fight back and stand for what I know is right in this situation I know most of you aren't 100% sure who is right and who is wrong I don't expect you to ever be but I know what happened I was there.


Here is prood Ed was at the show with me; I took this picture sorry it's a bit dark the room wasn't well lit.



ReptileJay
I might be putting you on the spot but could you atleast post what you thought of my facility and how my dragons are cared for.
 
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Mark I am not taking pot shots at Tom actually I have been defending him I think Ed lied threw his teeth about Tom I spoke to Tom on the phone the other night and to me he seems like a good guy he dose not seem to bare any ill will towards me and I apologized to him for taking what Ed said seriously before finding out for myself.
 
HowlinGaleDragons said:
I only brought up the possible trade because I really don't want a headache over this
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You were going to send that very dragon back as a barter item so you would not have a headache over the situation.

You changed your mind within one day.

You want us to choose the afternoon Nicole who decided to keep the dragon because to overwhelming attachment and responsibility, instead of the morning Nicole who posted in writing that this dragon would be sent back in return for another.


I just am having a hard time with you professing your love for your dragons. In the afternoon.
 
HowlinGaleDragons said:
Mark I am not taking pot shots at Tom actually I have been defending him I think Ed lied threw his teeth about Tom I spoke to Tom on the phone the other night and to me he seems like a good guy he dose not seem to bare any ill will towards me and I apologized to him for taking what Ed said seriously before finding out for myself.
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Yeah, she's calling the men.:rofl: :NoNo:

Played: Sympathy card (Ed doesn't CARE about dragons)
Played: Woman card (I'm not gonna let him push me around)
Played: Naive (I trusted Ed)
Played: Damstel in distress (See what he's doing..y'all post in my behalf)

I am beginning to think that this is a game they are playing: "Let's see who Fauna likes LEAST.":rofl::NoNo:
 
deborahbroadus said:
I am beginning to think that this is a game they are playing: "Let's see who Fauna likes LEAST.":rofl::NoNo:
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It really does almost feel like that game... I don't entirely see how a statement from me about how her dragons are housed has ANY bearing on this thread whatsoever... Yes, the dragons are well kept, proper heat, UV, adaquate enclosure size, substantial diversity in diet, etc... But the husbandry of the dragons means nothing to this thread.

Just because the animals are apparently healthy, well kept, and "loved", gives no indication whatsoever of the business practices, ethics, etc of the person keeping the animals, just as it gives no proof of ownership...

I cannot speak on the business practices, ethics, etc since I have not ever had any business transactions with either party, but yes Nicole, your dragons were well taken care of when I last saw them...
 
Thanks Jay


Deborah,
I played no Cards I am over Ed already why cry over it when it was the best thing to happen. I am already alot less stressed and happier I don't have to listen to him picking on my dragons because they aren't leather backs; several times Ed tried to force me to sell dragons I never gave in in other words I told him to stuff it.

Yes Lucille I was going to at first because I wasn't thinking of what could go wrong IE getting a dragon sick and diseased from Ed....no thanks and money really dosen't matter to me. Prince is a very happy well cared for dragon and he will always get that if I must I will make it more clear


I will not take anything from Ed to get a dragon back "Prince" that he has no say or ownership over. So in other words Ed don't try sending Medussa here I don't need my dragons getting sick from something your dragons have I gave Medussa to you as a gift shes yours the same way prince is mine I already know you will sell her because you call her ugly and to try to upset me It won't bother me because she will be going to a good home I just hope whoever buys her knows there is a high chance she has what the others dragons from you had.
 
Stuff it! You're 23 and he's an old grey haired man..I can add two plus two. It likely wasn't all a one way street of bad stuff. You have done enough on your own without trying to say you were the way you were "because of Ed."

Just like he's being told to man up and let go..the same thing goes for you. GIVE him back his dragon, or I know a lot of us will not think you are so innocent, and it is thievery. Your first words when he asked for Prince back was to taunt him about possession being 9/10ths of the law... you said nothing about you aren't giving a "gift" back, because you KNEW it wasn't a gift, and until I see evidence to the contrary, that is what I will go by.

Ed didn't make you manipulate photos, and he didn't make you lie about your knowledge of computers..that was aaaallll you. You can have the most healthy dragons in the world, but if you lie, manipulate and provide unethical customer service..you will STILL be someone that a lot of people would/should avoid...and I, for one, would suggest that they did avoid you because your customer service skills remind me of a "crap shoot" with the dice numbers being: "what are the odds that you will get your money back if you aren't satisfied or the photos have been doctored?".
 
tinmantribe5 said:
Whats really sad is that when I got into reptiles ED was kinda a folk hero to me,with Reptiles
All Heros Die some faster and Uglier than others!
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You've only seen Ed as a folk hero because you haven't been around long enough or researched his past. He's had a poor reputation for a very long time.

It's amazing he's been able to run a business on BS and robbing, beating and cheating people.

It's cool that Nicole posted a picture of Ed so people can steer clear away from unknowingly doing business with him at a show. :thumbsup:
 
I want everyone aware that Ed Clark has been trying to call me he keeps crying about how he is sorry and dose not want to argue like this blah blah blah. For whenever you get back on Ed I can not and will not forgive you for the lies you have posted all over the BOI please leave me alone.
 
HowlinGaleDragons said:
I want everyone aware that Ed Clark has been trying to call me he keeps crying about how he is sorry and dose not want to argue like this blah blah blah. For whenever you get back on Ed I can not and will not forgive you for the lies you have posted all over the BOI please leave me alone.
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Why in the world, don't you just CALL him and tell him that???? There is no difference between shouting it on the BOI or a phone (except here you may be hoping it helps your reputation :ack2: ).

Someone help me to look awaaaay...this is like a bad remake of THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS.:rolleyes:
 
HowlinGaleDragons said:
Because when I tell him that on the phone it dose not get threw to him he just keeps trying i even told him I would call the police :shrug01:
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If you have a cell phone you can see it is him calling. If you have a land line with no caller ID it would take you about a second to realize it was him before hanging up. It is YOUR fault for listening, why come crying here and feed your drama when you can just hang up and be done with it?
 
Actually for some reason it comes up "RESTRICTED" on my cell it never did before and I do not know if it is him or my mother as her number comes up the same.

And no we aren't a perfect couple he is the exact opposite of me he loves money and everything to do with it; I could care less about the money I just love working with my dragons and people. I won't go any deeper into that as I am un sure what could be seen as out of line.
 
HowlinGaleDragons said:
Actually for some reason it comes up "RESTRICTED" on my cell it never did before and I do not know if it is him or my mother as her number comes up the same.
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Nice try at a save. When WHOEVER starts talking on the other end, surely you can tell the difference between your mama and Ed with a few seconds, and hang up on Ed? But no, you are obviously having conversations with him.

Your bad.
 
Actually no I am not having conversations and stop trying to antagonize me it won't work I am bigger than that

Only ONCE did I let him talk because I was tired of being called every two minutes - That is when he started his little cry fit and I hung up - Everytime before and after when I answer and I hear him I tell him to "Stop Calling me Or I wall call the police"

Clearly you have lost sight of the issue at hind - his sick dragons, lieing, scamming, and rumor spreading I will reply to those who have questions true to the BOI not those that are of such to try to upset me or those that are off topic.
 
HowlinGaleDragons said:
I will reply to those who have questions true to the BOI
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You have not replied to the other thread calling you out on your alleged misrepresentations. All I am hearing is whining and excuses. Your game plan is to only address Ed's shortcomings and not your own, diverting attention from your own misdeeds, not that I would EVER do business with you......
 
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