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Info Eddie Markward

I understand that. I also understand that the little SOB's are pernicious and difficult to eradicate in large collections, especially if proper QT isn't observed.

From Sarah's last post it looks like Eddie admitted that he had mites before receiving the OP's snakes anyway so hers were not the source of the infestation in the combined collection.

Yes - that screenshot definitely verifies that Eddie already had mites. What form of quarantine did he use with the new collection coming in? It sounds like they just went directly into the existing collection. I have had anywhere between 75-250 snakes (back when I bred boas), and have just over 120 now. My snakes are all treated in QT prior to coming to my main collection. There is no excuse for mites existing once they have been noticed. Is it a pain to treat an entire collection of that size? Hell yes it is!! That's why you have QT measures in place, and plans for treating mites. Unacceptable
 
deplorable

My god those poor animals I'm sorry to see and hear what you are going through its horrible my grandfather told me a long time ago to never trust anyone with anything I have learned my lesson more than once that what he said is true I hope your animals get back to health soon and that you don't suffer anymore neither you nor the animals deserve the treatment that you and them have received
 
I wonder where the heck the $200 a month went. It obviously didn't go to feeding any of those snakes, or supplying them with water, or fixing the broken thermostat. This is sickening. Eddie should be ashamed.
 
If hes using cypress bedding and not his paper towels, that shows me right there that hes nit trying his hardest to treat for mites! Its way harder when theres wood bedding!
 
If hes using cypress bedding and not his paper towels, that shows me right there that hes nit trying his hardest to treat for mites! Its way harder when theres wood bedding!

This was my thought as well. Why have snakes on bedding that is hard to see the pesky little critters. If I knew I had mites, which I do now, I would have everyone on paper towels for as long as it took to get rid of them, which I am doing right now.
 
How many animals did you have in his care?

I have attached a word document that shows exactly what we dropped off at Eddie's. The ones that are highlighted in yellow are those that were lost in the overheat or are just unaccounted for. I saw unaccounted for because the animals I picked up didn't match what I should have been picking up. Either there were some there that I wasn't expecting and others that I was expecting but weren't there. I am also attaching two screen shots of the list Eddie sent me a few days after the overheat to inform us of what we lost.
 

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It's unacceptable to lose that many animals there are fail safes to prevent that sort of thing and if you have that many animals fail safes should be the first thing that you invest in damn that's a lot of animals gone needlessly
 
Sorry this is happening.

Has any proof been provided for the animals that are presumed dead? Your list of highlighted animals and "died before heater" are some of the nicer ones. At this point I would wonder if they were sold rather than passed away.
 
Not to beat a dead horse on the Mite issue, The screenie showed Eddie admitting he had the Mites prior, but when he started posting stuff about the situation he tried to claim otherwise, and also claim the conditions of the animals were pretty much in that shape when he received it, (that screenie may have been posted?, if not i will see if i can find it) trying to blame the OP for the poor care. that is just dirt bag low.
 
Maybe I am missing something but the ONLY way a tstat malfunction on the entire room could wipe out 118 animals total is if it was left unchecked for days!
I had a similar malfunction overnight last winter in my room ( so yes I know this can happen!) and it got quite hot, however as soon as I entered in the early am I obviously took care of it with the net result that I lost not one single animal out of 77 at the time.
I can only assume that regular checks were NOT done in the room where they were all housed, I am sorry but with that many animals they really would need checking up on at least three times a day
I just dont get it, something does NOT add up here........
 
Maybe I am missing something but the ONLY way a tstat malfunction on the entire room could wipe out 118 animals total is if it was left unchecked for days!
I had a similar malfunction overnight last winter in my room ( so yes I know this can happen!) and it got quite hot, however as soon as I entered in the early am I obviously took care of it with the net result that I lost not one single animal out of 77 at the time.
I can only assume that regular checks were NOT done in the room where they were all housed, I am sorry but with that many animals they really would need checking up on at least three times a day
I just dont get it, something does NOT add up here........

I use ambient heat as well. I had a similiar issue with a oil filled heater that went nuts and started overheating the room. I say started, because I caught it within a couple of hours. As the poster quoted above says. Check your animals!! Use a heat gun, a room thermometer and your own senses to check a couple of times a day!! If you can't do this then maybe reconsider your choice to care for these animals. I have always had respect for Eddie, have bought animals from him and followed his advice many times. Saying that I am appalled. I am using this as a learning experience on how not to get overwhelmed and continue to monitor my animals like crazy.
 
The condition of the animals and the losses are extremely sad. Tragic, really, and I have a very unpleasant feeling seeing their condition in the photos. I am relieved the survivors are now in the hands of caring and giving people.

My impression is that Eddie has entered some sort of anxiety-inaction cycle or some manner of breakdown characterized by anxiety that promotes inaction. As some may have mentioned, this can lead to being/feeling overwhelmed and a kind of looped "paralysis" of sorts. Just my impression. Not an excuse. The responsibility remains. More of a potential explanation for how this can occur.
 
The condition of the animals and the losses are extremely sad. Tragic, really, and I have a very unpleasant feeling seeing their condition in the photos. I am relieved the survivors are now in the hands of caring and giving people.

My impression is that Eddie has entered some sort of anxiety-inaction cycle or some manner of breakdown characterized by anxiety that promotes inaction. As some may have mentioned, this can lead to being/feeling overwhelmed and a kind of looped "paralysis" of sorts. Just my impression. Not an excuse. The responsibility remains. More of a potential explanation for how this can occur.
 
Does anyone know if the failure occurred when Eddie was on his recent vacation? I know he had posted that he had cut some eggs before leaving for a week. If the failure did happen during that time, it may explain why he didn't know the room heated up to unsafe levels.
 
Wow.. This is terrible. Sorry this happened to you. Positive vibes towards justice being served sent your way.

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UOTE=nickolasanastasiou;1852724]My impression is that Eddie has entered some sort of anxiety-inaction cycle or some manner of breakdown characterized by anxiety that promotes inaction. As some may have mentioned, this can lead to being/feeling overwhelmed and a kind of looped "paralysis" of sorts. Just my impression. Not an excuse. The responsibility remains. More of a potential explanation for how this can occur.[/QUOTE]

It is a real condition and it is plausible that Eddie suffered this.
It is a better reason than outright, purposeful, neglect.
However, as you stated, the responsibility remains. The condition, of the animals, occurred while in his possession/care and, obviously, not enough was done.

Saddens me to see the pics, that have been posted, etc.
Really feel for the snakes.
Also, wishing the best, for the owners and any others who may be helping, during the ordeal of getting these snakes into good condition & health.

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My impression is that Eddie has entered some sort of anxiety-inaction cycle or some manner of breakdown characterized by anxiety that promotes inaction.

Does anyone know if the failure occurred when Eddie was on his recent vacation? I know he had posted that he had cut some eggs before leaving for a week.

If he was active enough to go on vacation for a week, he should have been active enough to notify Charlene that he was not taking care of her snakes.

If he had money to vacation for a week, he should have money to make reparations here.

If there is (I don't know, we have no facts yet) some sort of psychiatric explanation involved, moving forward, the responsible action for him to take is to avoid being in a position where live critter's lives, both his own and other peoples critters, depend on him.
 
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