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ETBs or GTP? Help

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Currently intrested in owning areboreals, either a ETB or GTP. I heard ETBs(what i really want) go off feed and are finicky eaters and die easly, also heard there personality isnt the best. GTP i hear eat like pigs and are more freindly, although i dont intend to touch them that much. a little help pleasE? thank you
 
I have a juvenile GTP and he's very friendly and eats well. I have no experience with any other arboreals but this is my favorite snake. Why do you like ETBs?
 
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have you kept other snakes before and if so what? GTP's once started eat well but if you get a baby you have to be careful not to feed it alot... i go with the poo and feed method (or they will prolaps) once they are aover 1 year -18 months they can go on to a 7-10 or 10-12 days feeding routeen. if you have not kept any snakes or if this would be your first arboreal i would suggest either a LTC ABT or cbb atb... and not all green trees are nice ALOT of them are wicked and nastey just like ETB's can get and ATB's are... seems like atbs are much more giving or hardy if you will and it beasts spending 300+ (base price) dollars for a GTP or $500+ (base price for an ETB... you can get some ophases of the ATB for$100 sometimes less depending on what color phase they are... but dont to fresh import.... get a well establushed animal no matter what you get
 
check out some of the animals I have for sale on this page. I would recommend that ETB as a starter one, it is rock-solid all the way, no problems what so ever. Id also recommend any of those gtps for a starter also.

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Tim Coplan
 
I don't think Chondros are difficult at all. I got my baby before he even ate( discount) and it only took me two tries and now he an established feeder. With feeding you just have to be persistent. Chondros have very specific care guidelines but if you get them down they are easy as cake. I think it is stupid to go out and get an ATB if what you really want is a GTP because then you might not be as devoted to it and get an innacurate perception. I'm 15 and have only been in the hobby for a few years and my chondro is thriving. The only snakes I had kept before my GTP were hognoses, ball pythons, and bull snakes. If you get a CB baby Aru and handle it weekly you should end up with a FAIRLY "tame" snake. They are really individuals when it comes to temperement. If you can provide their care then I highly reccomend reading up on the COMPLETE CHONDRO and getting one. They are absolutley fun and fascinating!!!
 
I wouldnt say all chondros are that easy to get feeding, nor would I recomend a non-feeding snake to any beginner. I also disagree with that handling idea. Most arus are going to be placid no matter how much you handle them. Now lets say you have a nasty biak or other locality, handling them every week is going to be a waste of time. You also should not be handling babies, because once off their perch some can go crazy and accidents can happen. I would just recommend reading up a lot on them before you purchase one and have the correct set-up before you buy the snake.
 
:dunce: ahh what do i know

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ok....

everytime i post on here with a question, i never get a straight anserew or people start there own conversations in my orginal post. I dont care cause this is a forum ment for that purpose.
To anserew the first persons question, i prefer ETB's for there prestige and like there paterns more so then GTP. I just want to know what you people think as the only snake ive ever kept before was a whole BUNCH of Garter snakes and my current Red tail boa. I own a crested gecko so im familar with humidty requirments, temps and daily mistings for a crested and have read INSANE amounts of info on ETB and GTP. Im tryin see if one is more finicky then the other in eating as im aware male ETBS can be. and what are the pros and cons of the 2? thank you.
 
Robin U R funny!!!
BTW I got no geckos, but the pix of the ones in the classified you are selling are just gorgeous!!
 
Tim, gentle, consistent handling will tame down a Biak but it won't be instant. Sure, they will never be as tame as a nice Aru but it will help somewhat. Also with handling babies my philosiphy is with gentle handling(no grasping, snake treating you as a branch) it will set a nice base for having a tame older snake. I let my baby wrap around my hand over a soft mattress and have never had a problem. They are fragile little guys but can be handeled safely. And I bought a non-eating snakes cause I have dealt with tons of non-eating hogs so I am very experienced in that area, so it was no problem for me.

Original poster, I cannot give you pros and cons because I have never owned an ETB. For chondros, temperament could be pro and con cause it is highly variable. I would say beuaty and ease of care would probably be two more pros. For cons, I would say expense, and troublesome feeders for youngsters but when they are older they are very aggressive feeders.

Hope I helped!, Mike.
 
of the two your best bet would be a green tree python... but a cbb (best bet for sure) or avery well started and established ch juv from dealers with reputible names and deal only in quality animals (same goes for the cbb), would be what you would want to chose from... as far as localities... it's gonna be what you like... some are more testy than others but any locale can have nastey attitudes as well as some typically nastey tempered locales can have some with better dispositions... you honestly never know... pick what you like... the thing about cbb gtp's is that you can see what mom and pop look like so you have an idea on how your animal might turn out eventually.... this is not the case with CH of course
 
Chondro or Emerald

I've owned both species in the past. I currently still own and breed GTP's.
I also prefer Emeralds over GTP's, but, in my opinion, Green Tree Pythons are easier to care for, and I'd even say a bit friendlier.
I've never been bitten by either species, but feel more comfortable handling GTP's. Maybe it's just the size over those chompers on an Emerald - I don't know.
As far as feeding, I had some problems with my Emeralds early on - actually, 1 died on my cuz it wouldn't keep anything down (had to tube feed him it was so bad), but after some persistence, they took off fine. It is important to note that my Emeralds were WC back then (nobody was doing CB Emeralds at the time).
My GTPs eat well for me - never had to force feed or anything, but maybe I just got lucky. They are all CBB, and yes, while CBB Green trees cost a bit more than WC, it is well worth the extra money spent.
Hope this helps you out a little - whichever you decide to get, best of luck with them - both species are awesome when displayed properly.

Scott
 
Hello everyone - I don't want to step on anyone's toes, but I kind of feel like my favorite arboreal is being under-estimated. I have been working with Emerald Tree Boas for nearly 15 years and have nothing but great things to say about them. I can go into any one of my arboreal's cages during daylight hours and handle them safely without getting bit. Don't get me wrong, chondros are nice arboreals too (I have a 1.2 myself), but as babies they are smaller and certainly more fragile than an Emerald baby. At least in my opinion and experience. Therefore, I would feel confident suggesting an Emerald for someone's first arboreal, provided that it is captive bred and born only (I can't stress that enough), and that it is from a reputable breeder. Keep in mind that you do get what you pay for in this market. I know sometimes that LTCs look inviting because they are a little more reasonably priced, but with the added vet bills and preventative measures one must take, in the end you probably end up paying close to the same amount of money as if you had bought a C.B.B. from a reputable breeder. However, I have to stress caution. I starting out with only a pair and look where I ended up - with a collection 40 strong (and still growing)! Emeralds are addicting!

Good luck with whatever arboreal you choose! If you need help finding a reputable breeder of either Emeralds or Chondros, please let me know. I have met many great friends and breeders during the last 15 years, all of which are good people to do business with and that we have done business with ourselves.

Regards,
 
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