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This is a very tame and trained female Eagle Owl. She is 10 mos. old. She is for sale due to space constraints.

$3000.00
 
You realize of course that Eurasian Eagle Owl is a CITES species?

Convention on International Trade in Endengered Species of Fauna and Flora
(CITES)

Having one in your possesion is a huge offense and the authorities in what ever country you live in can put you in jail for having it.

Take it to your local zoo.

Regards,

Terry
 
i dont know anything about these but can they have cities paperwork and permits and stuff on these or are they totally restricted?
 
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Beak Geak you should check your facts.
It is a captive bred owl that I purchased from a licensed breeder.
No paper work is even needed to own one in the United States,its not native species.
 
Regardless if it is captive bred - they are protected and yes you need paperwork for the bird. I'd love to see you convince a USFW officer that number one it is captive bred, and number two that it is OK to have a CITES species without paperwork proving it origin. Otherwise they have no idea if you took a wild bird as a baby and smuggled it.

I have an idea. I call my buddy at the USFW service here in Minneapolis and have him get in touch with you to discuss this. I know for a fact that he would be very interested in you claiming that you can sell a CITES species without paperwork.

Regards,

Terry
 
BeekGeek, please check your facts and leave this kind man/woman alone. If the animals is CBB in the US he/she does not need CITES paperwork. Now if the animal is listed as an endangered species under the USDI, you will need a CBWP to obtain the animal outside of state lines, but that is all. Federal and most state falconry permits do not apply as this species is not native to the US. If you wish to continue trhis discussion I am sure it would be wise to take it to the forums and not clog this ad.
 
Taken from the CITES web site:

1. An export permit or re-export certificate issued by the Management Authority of the State of export or re-export is required.

An export permit may be issued only if the specimen was legally obtained and if the export will not be detrimental to the survival of the species.

A re-export certificate may be issued only if the specimen was imported in accordance with the Convention.

Like I said - you need paperwork sending it across even state lines - otherwise they have no idea where it came from.
Stating that you don't need paperwork is incorrect.

And so you don't think that I am just talking out my backside. I have worked at the The Raptor Center in Minneapolis with Dr. Pat Redig, and I am very familiar with the rules - CBB or not.

I have the facts straight and I am done. Sorry for Clogging up the classifeds. I'd hate for some unsuspecting person to try and purchase the bird.

Thanks!

Terry
 
BeekGeek, those only apply if you are exporting, aka, sending them out of the country, like to Canada or something. I've imported and exported animals for a few years and I am one to keep up with current laws. You might want to call USFWS and ask them about it, thery'll tell you the same thing. Otherwise we would require permits to send chameleons across state lines, and even ball pythons, both of which are CITEs animals.
 
Terry, as others have said, you are severely misinterpreting what CITES is and is not.

CITES has no applicability whatsoever to interstate commerce. CITES is an international treaty governing international trade of listed species. USFWS could care less if you're shipping CITES species accross state lines. By your misinterpretation of CITES, all interstate shipping of common boas and ball pythons would be illegal.

The law that you're confusing CITES with is the Endangered Species Act, which requires a Captive Bred Wildlife Permit for interstate commerce of ESA listed species such as the eastern indigo snake and Indian python.

In short, you owe md14fish an apology.
 
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First of all, there is a captive bred seamless band on captive bred raptors. Second I have a raptor Prop permit. So call who you want!
 
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Ken,

Thanks for your input. You said it alot more eloquently then I was able to due to my anger at that guy.

Mario
 
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Beak Geak,

I guess peregrine falcons can't be sold. That is what your logic is applying. Their sold all the time by legal breeders to falconers with a falconry licesne. Yet they are listed under CITES.
Also Pat Redig is a vet, that I happen to know. So don't drop his name to act like you know what your talking about.
 
First of all, there is a captive bred seamless band on captive bred raptors. Second I have a raptor Prop permit. So call who you want!
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Thanks! Yes, I found out that I was incorrect on CITES since there is a section that states if the bird was captive bred CITES does not apply. My humble apology.

It is a captive bred owl that I purchased from a licensed breeder. No paper work is even needed to own one in the United States,its not native species.
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This is what caused my confusion. It was your first comment which made no mention of the band nor the permit .

I guess peregrine falcons can't be sold.
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As a falconer you realize that the peregrines that are used are not all pure peregrines anyway. I have seen gyrfalcon x Peregrines, etc. and even the ones in North America are mostly from reintroduction of falconer stock. Which are made up of different subspecies (pealei, tundrius, anatum). As you know, falconry is regulated by USFW and requires you to apprentice under a master falconer. The impression I got from your message was that you would sell the bird without any mention of this information.

By the way I was not just dropping Pat's name. I know him, Bud Tordoff, and Mark Martell from the Raptor Center. He knows me when he see me.

I have a Bachelors of Science in Biology specializing in Avian Conservation from the University of Minnesota, which is how I met Pat. I do work with USFW and MNDNR, IADNR with birds.

My bad on the CITES. Sorry for all the hassle.

Regards and good luck with your sale.

Terry
 
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Apology accepted, I guess no harm done. Also gyr/peregrines are hybrid falcons only allowed to be owned by licensed falconers. Peregrines regardless of subspecies are only allowed by Master Class Falconers. Until last year all pergrines obtained by falconers had to be captive bred.This year some states are allowing a limited harvest of wild peregrines due to their delisting as an endangered species. I have been a falconer for over 20 years so am well aware of all the laws governing falconry and raptors in general.
 
I am currently raising vampires so do me a favor and call US Army or National Guard because i could care less....Shove it with DNR as well...oh and thanks for reading this...
 
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Did you ever sell your owl? I breed Eagle Owls and am always looking for more Eagle Owls!
 
eagle owl

Yeah I still have her. Could of sold her but wasn't happy with the two people interested.
I would sell her for 3500.00
 
i hate when people think they know every thing. beak geek even had the nerve to say that he knows for a FACT his buddy would be very intrested in knowing about the bird
then all of a sudden he changes his tune when a band and permit are mentioned.
Nothing I can find says you have to have any permit at all. So I hope everyone rembers birdgeeks facts may not be facts at all!! md14fish I bet you are sure glad you didnt rush your birds to the nearest zoo like the geek said. his shooting of the mouth could have caused a perfectally leagle and responsable bird owner to become fearful of the situation and turn his leagal bird in to the authoritys. 2000.00-4000.00
would have been lost due to a ingnorant reply to a perfectly leagal sale!!

md14fish I have been looking for two pairs of u.e.o. I currently have 1 pair and have been looking to add to my breeding project. Do you still have any for sale?

Forrest
 
I'm a newbie, confused by this whole thread (lol!) and have a question...So CBB but non-indigenous raptors can be kept in the US with no paperwork or falconers licenses?

That's the best news I've heard in years!! Where do I find a non-indigenous CBB Barn Owl? :)

...Or did I miss something?

Thanks for clarifying...
 
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